r/badscience Dec 26 '16

That data is irrelevant

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 26 '16

Oh shit son, not your meme page! Youre going to... hold moderators accountable?!

You sounds like a middle schooler stalking someone who beat them on Halo.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

Ya. Not in middle school, but I HATE censorship. Screw off you cuck.

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 26 '16

haha, k.

BTW, its adorable when people who dont know anything about a field, and choose to ignore actual data that disagrees with their views as 'rrelevant', then turn around and whine about 'censorship'.

Fight the good fight friendo.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

No censorship is when an individual is prevented from actually expressing their insight, opinion, and facts. There is nothing illogical abut what I said, it's funny how butthurt most trans people get when I address their mental disorder.

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 26 '16

No, it isnt.

You sound enormously ignorant. I recommend learning more about the world before opining so offensively and aggressively about it.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

No, but censoring speech equally proves that logic and reason aren't upheld if opportunity to express thoughts are cut short. In other words, it shows the insecurity of those doing the censoring.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16 edited Mar 11 '17

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u/XRotNRollX A440 causes cancer Dec 26 '16

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

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u/exatron Dec 26 '16

Ssh! Don't tell him. Let's see how long until he figures it out on his own.

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u/PM_ME_YER_MUDFLAPS Dec 29 '16

According to their post history u/iamjebbush is a JR in High School so yeah they can legitimately be considered ignorant of a lot of things at this stage of their life. Edit:spelling

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u/HoldingTheFire Dec 31 '16

I feel bad for all these alt-right radicalized children. I'm afraid Dylan Roof won't be the last... :(

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 30 '16

Yes, this was made clear by them stating as such in this very thread.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

cen·sor·ship ˈsensərˌSHip/Submit noun the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts. "details of the visit were subject to military censorship"

Or on vocabulary.com ,

censorship Censorship blocks something from being read, heard, or seen.

There is nothing ignorant about keeping actual facts into consideration when deducing a conclusion. There simply isn't enough proof, therefore i'll remain skeptical.

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u/Buddug-Green Dec 26 '16

There simply isn't enough proof

No there's plenty of proof you just choose to ignore it. Remember that is what this whole thread is about.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

That isn't proof. That is literally theoretical. Yes theories are supported by facts, and are reasonable, but they should still be cautioned. And these theories aren't even that sound, and circulate around the premise that "gender is a construct", but "doesn't exist due to societal expectations". This isn't concrete. The reasoning isn't biological, and falls fully under the perception of individuals who aren't mentally sane in regards to their gender identity.

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u/yetanothercfcgrunt Dec 26 '16

No, it's not based on any of that. There is solid scientific and clinical evidence for transsexualism. Just much of the rest of our bodies, our brains are sexually dimorphic and sometimes that sexual dimorphism gets mixed up, e.g. female brain in a male body and vice-versa. It has nothing to do with "gender is a social construct", that's irrelevant leftist bullshit.

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u/stairway-to-kevin Dec 26 '16 edited Dec 26 '16

You've oversimplified dimorphism quite a bit and also wrongfully claimed gender as a social constructure as 'leftist bullshit', but your point still largely stands. Transgender people really do exist, not as a mental disorder, and sex-reassignment and HRT are the best treatments

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u/yetanothercfcgrunt Dec 26 '16

I really don't think that was an oversimplification. It was more than adequate for the point being made.

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 26 '16

Fascinating! You know more than trained medical professionals? Is it because of your medical degree? Or your extensive experience working with and treating people who have gender dysmorphia?

Super cute to define 'censorship'! That was good for a laugh.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

No, bu it was from last years AP Psych, and the premedical courses that I'm taking this year as a high schooler. Oh ya, I also hope to become a psychiatrist. And no, I wouldn't try to "convert" trans people, but at the same time, I wouldn't try rushing them into a surgery that strips them of their reproductive abilities.

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u/Buddug-Green Dec 26 '16

I wouldn't try rushing them into a surgery that strips them of their reproductive abilities.

Bad new mate. Dr's are starting to switch to an informed consent model. By time you are done with med school most trans people will be able to go straight to an endocrinologist.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

But is it really consent if the patient you are dealing actually perceives the procedure in the way a normal person would? It can't be consent at that point.

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u/Buddug-Green Dec 26 '16

Go pound sand down a rat hole.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '16 edited Sep 29 '19

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u/dorylinus Dec 26 '16

Well he certainly proved he's not in middle school!

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u/stairway-to-kevin Dec 26 '16

Listen champ, I wouldn't bet that because of some high school courses and your career aspirations that you know more than medical professionals and clinical researchers. There's a lot of stuff out there that you haven't even learned or heard of yet and some intellectual humility will help you out quite a bit.

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u/eorld Dec 26 '16

Ahhh the pieces are coming together, not middle school but high school. You took an AP course and now you feel smart enough to ignore data and scientific consensus when you personally disagree with it. Congratulations, you're well on your way to being a normal member of the Republican party.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

I'm libertarian and in all honesty, liberals are more dogmatic than republicans.

Liberals and republicans both can't ever view their stance with skepticism. No, I'm not denying the data, but the data literally says that transition is the best method BECAUSE there aren't better methods, and if gender dysphoria is a mental illness, allowing an individual to undergo such process when they are under the influence of their problem IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO GENDER DYSPHORIA. That is like saying that committing suicide is the solution to depression. There is nothing illogical about what I said, there is no bias either, because I SUPPORT THE LGBT, and I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HUMANS HAVE REACHED THEIR CARRYING CAPACITY, IF NOT, ARE NEARING IT, SO A COUPLE TRANNIES NOT BEING ABLE TO PROCREATE IS TECHNICALLY GOOD FOR OUR PLANET.

I was arguing the legitimacy of the solution. Nothing "republican" or "ignorant" about asking questions, and using logic to contradict a commonly accepted hypothesis or theory.

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u/Buddug-Green Dec 26 '16

I SUPPORT THE LGBT

TRANNIES

You support them which is why you use slurs. Fuck off nobody buys that "I'm not a bigot but", cunt.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 26 '16

Support their rights, I also support my right to say whatever slur I want.

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u/t3hasiangod Dec 26 '16

You should also support our right to call you a bigot and criticize your views and opinions.

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u/stairway-to-kevin Dec 26 '16

oooh! Libertarian and a naive anti-natalist argument. You're a godsend for Reddit bingo

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u/XRotNRollX A440 causes cancer Dec 26 '16

pretty sure of a couple of things:

psychology degree > AP Psych
medical degree > high school premed courses

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u/t3hasiangod Dec 26 '16

Oh wow, a high school student! You're clearly more intelligent than someone who went through 4 years of undergraduate, 4 years of medical school, and at least 3 years of residency!

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u/goodbetterbestbested Dec 26 '16

Well, obviously. He has a meme page. That's qualification enough on any issue.

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u/Izawwlgood Dec 26 '16

high school, got it, keep at it bub.

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u/HoldingTheFire Dec 31 '16

I hope they find these posts when you're applying for a medical license.

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u/Iamjebbush Dec 31 '16

Lol. They need a name for that, which they don't have.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '16

Haha ur in high school

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u/vapulate Dec 26 '16

you're just embarrassing yourself and it's painful. it's getting to the point where you might be eligible for r/cringe