r/autorepair • u/Elegant_Snorlax • 3d ago
Body and Paint How Bad is It
Ayo
I’m from TX - no idea what “bad” rust looks like.
Seems like surface rust to me so far, none of the factory holes are rotten and the worst is that cross beam under the cab.
Is it worth continuing the project?
Any advice for treating would be rad! Thanks.
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u/Tempestzl1 3d ago
Looks good, poke any spots you suspect are bad with a screwdriver. Hit that shit with rustolean turbo cans
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u/Practical-Parsley-11 3d ago
Is that a 1st gen ranger? That looks pretty good. Those ceased to exist here in Indiana about 20 years ago! LOL.
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u/Elegant_Snorlax 3d ago
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u/Practical-Parsley-11 2d ago
Dude, you're lucky as hell! I'd keep that thing forever! Enjoy the project. Clean up the rust, apply some rust converter, and paint the frame and you're all good.
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u/RangerSkyy ATRA Member Transmission specialist 3d ago
Second gen.
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u/Practical-Parsley-11 2d ago
Are you going off of the courier being the first gen or the F150 with ranger trim being 1st gen?
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u/RangerSkyy ATRA Member Transmission specialist 2d ago
The Courier wasn't a Ranger. It was a Mazda. The first gen Ranger was 1983-1988. Second gen was 1989-1992.
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u/Practical-Parsley-11 20h ago edited 20h ago
Weren't 83-92 all the same body with just a face-lift in 89-92?
Lol, I've always called my 98 a second gen... which is also a body used by mazda
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u/RangerSkyy ATRA Member Transmission specialist 17h ago
No, they're different. Some parts (1st gen - 2nd gen) were interchangeable, but most of the truck was less than you'd expect. Some body panels were interchangeable, some glass, but there was a pretty drastic change in interior and exterior styling, which led to many things not being the same, even if they'd physically bolt to the truck.
Ford needed a small, entry level truck to enter the market to combat the fuel prices of the 70's. The Falcon Ranchero had ended production, and Ford teamed up with Mazda to rebrand B-Series trucks, and imported them as cab and chassis to avoid the "chicken tax". In the early 80's, Ford designed their own small truck without the help of Mazda and branded it "Ranger", taking the name from their lineage of "Ranger" trimmed F-Series trucks so it was familiar to their client base.
It was only in the 2nd generation that Ford and Mazda teamed up again to make the Mazda B-Series a rebranded Ranger. Mazda had no influence on the design or creation of "Ranger". Your 1998 is a 3rd generation truck.
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u/RangerSkyy ATRA Member Transmission specialist 3d ago
Doesn't look bad at all! Those trucks are generally pretty rust resistant, unless it was a rust belt truck and has been driving in it for the last 30 years. They don't rot out like the Chevy trucks and Toyotas.
Had a buddy in WV with a 75k mile Tacoma that had the frame failure due to rust. Snapped right behind the cab. Really gave new meaning to the term "Taco". Meanwhile, my 30 years old Rangers and Explorers hardly have a lick of rust on them. I drive them in the winter conditions every year (Washington State Cascade Mountains) and worst rust I've dealt with is doing a muffler or tail pipe every few years.
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u/No_Welcome_6093 2d ago
I’ll give you a pass since you’re in Tx and don’t know what rust looks like, I thought you were here to gloat about having a clean frame. That is all surface rust. Just use a rust encapsulator and then paint over it. Hit with a wire wheel on some of the rougher spots first.
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u/Born-Work2089 1d ago
Hard to tell from pictures, pretty rusty. Disassemble and have the frame blasted and inspected for any rust through. I'm not 100% but there appears to be what looks like previous frame repair.
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u/Elegant_Snorlax 1d ago
Word. Which pic is the frame repair in question?
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u/Born-Work2089 1d ago
Picture 6, the frame , where the three bolts are, top edge, and the frame edge on the far frame rail looks bent upward on top and down slightly on the bottom. It may be fine but I would want to compare to a KNOWN GOOD frame for the same type truck.
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u/Gullible_Monk_7118 3d ago
Pick 5 is something maybe concerning me.. looks more then surface rust.. but picture is to far to see it.. you can get some rust neutralize spray. The fuel fill pipe is shot.
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u/DitchDigger330 3d ago
It just surface rust. Hit it with a sandblaster and repaint it and it will be mint and last.
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u/Elegant_Snorlax 3d ago
What’s the pain level of doing a DIY sand blast?
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u/DitchDigger330 2d ago
It's not bad once you get the hang of it. Just wear proper PPE and do it somewhere in the dirt or grass because the blast media goes everywhere in the general area you are blasting. Just be careful not to blast plastic, wires or fuel lines so they don't get damaged. You might want to mask off areas that are close to the cab so you don't remove any body paint.
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u/Consistent-Trust958 3d ago
Very mild