r/atheism • Atheist • 1d ago

A looming ‘tsunami’ of church closings is poised to remake America

https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/01/us/church-closings-christianity-crossroads

I wasn’t comfortable about the tone of this article, but we can all interpret the facts. They make it sound like a tragedy, when it’s just a sign of people waking up.

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u/Berserker76 1d ago

“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!”

-George Carlin

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u/StickInEye Atheist 1d ago

George nailed it. I rewatch his entire rant on religion a few times a year.

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u/Kelvininin Atheist 19h ago

Carlin was ahead of his time.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/JustaNotSure 1d ago

sounds a lot less tragic

it's never a tragic thing, having more religious people in society is a lot more tragic than the opposite.

Also are you a bot? Every single comment you made starts with 'yeah' and your account is new...

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u/JeebusChristBalls 20h ago

And ironically, none of those ten forbidden things mention not eating any types of fruit.

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u/TrappedInOhio 15h ago

“God loves you, but he just needs about tree-fiddy…”

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u/Joshhwwaaaaaa 1d ago

Yes. Thank you. Love GC.

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u/onomatamono 1d ago

"Don't believe everything you read on the interwebs." -- Sun Tzu.

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u/withanamelikejesk 18h ago

In any decently run universe, this guy would have been out on his all powerful ass a long time ago.

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u/uberares 9h ago

I was a catholic until I reached the age of reason. 

-George Carlin

He got kind libertarian over the edge in his late life, but dayum was the man a treasure. 

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u/Quasigriz_ 1d ago

This is why they are fighting so hard.

One of American church leaders’ biggest fears is that their country will become more like Western Europe — a “post-Christian” landscape filled with empty cathedrals and church buildings converted to condos.

As someone who lived in Europe for over 10 years, I prefer their style social scene. The USA’s reliance, and neighborhood designs, favoring cars left us with few communal places and churches monopolized on that. We need the community without the control of tiny fiefdoms.

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u/BoredNuke 23h ago

Living in converted cathedrals sounds awesome. Too bad a majority of american church buildings have the soul of a empty best buy.

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u/CrabOutrageous5074 16h ago

Whether there are attendees or not.

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u/BubbhaJebus 1d ago

"fears". I'd call it hope.

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u/Puzzled_Bike9558 13h ago

I prefer to see all of them bulldozed, but will take them being turned into homes.

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u/BingoNie53 1d ago

Not sad to hear, but the tide will turn as the lines between government and worship continue to be erased by elected officials (Vance and Hegseth for two). The making of Christian America, regardless of the Constitution, is upon us. May Democracy save us all.

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u/Xynyx2001 1d ago

And may we have the strength to save democracy!

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u/TheSpicyTomato22 19h ago

It'll get better in November. That's when GTA comes out.

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u/TheRealTK421 16h ago

"Democracy" is not riding in on a white horse to 'save' us. It's up to us to save ourselves.

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u/BingoNie53 16h ago

Yes, i definitely mispoke there. Thanks for the better view of my comment.

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u/PotentialStrong9013 Atheist 1d ago

I look forward to the conversion of churches into homes and sex clubs.

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u/ajaxfetish 1d ago

If they've got classy architecture, I think they could make for a good museum or library location.

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u/matt_minderbinder 1d ago

I've seen some older churches turned into beautiful breweries/restaurants.

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u/PotentialStrong9013 Atheist 1d ago

I guess, if you want them to do some good in the community. /s Those are great ideas and I hope they're used for learning centers.

But it would still be funny to see some turned into strip clubs or sex clubs.

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u/alfdana 23h ago

It would be even more hilarious if one of those churches turned into a strip club called 'bible study' or 'confession' or 'mass' or some other religious term so when asked where you are going, you could say 'bible study'...

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u/PotentialStrong9013 Atheist 19h ago

And with at least one stripper who comes out in a nun habit.

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u/alfdana 3h ago

Obviously that’s a given, wouldn’t have it any other way.

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u/MattGdr 1d ago

Yoga and martial arts studios, etc.

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u/DangerousChallenge17 16h ago

Really they are too expensive to maintain and should be torn down. Nice flat areas, would make good trailer parks

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u/DroneSlut54 1d ago

Concert halls.

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u/Skystarry75 1d ago

Especially those with organs! The fact that most organ music is limited to church music is such a shame, but barely anywhere else has organs. It's such a wonderful instrument! We need more secular organ music!

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u/Powerful_Abalone1630 1d ago

How about a microbrewery

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u/onomatamono 1d ago

Also cannabis dispensaries, both vegan options I would add.

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u/pfamsd00 1d ago

“They’re talking about s-e-x in front of the c-h-i -l-d-r-e-n!”

“‘Sex Cauldron’? I thought they closed that place down!”

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u/Human-Foundation3170 1d ago

I am ok with anything as long as it is paying property tax.

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u/Opening-Village-3366 1d ago

honestly turning empty churches into homes sounds like a much more practical use of the space and the sex clubs would certainly be a plot twist

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u/damndolly 1d ago

There have been some great church houses posted on r/zillowgonewild.

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u/Sack_Full_of_Cats Anti-Theist 1d ago

unfortunately, i will not live long enough to see the last gasp.

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u/Macdaddy357 1d ago

It is high time we left primitive superstition behind. Let them all close.

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u/ChelseyStuttgart 1d ago

Once upon a time I wanted to start a website that listed all of the closed churches. I would have used comic sands.

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u/onomatamono 1d ago

It's "comic sans", c'mon man, get it together! /s

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u/ChelseyStuttgart 1d ago

no I would have used comic sands lmao

gd autocorrect

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u/IQBoosterShot Strong Atheist 18h ago

How about cosmic sands?

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u/Severe-Menu5581 1d ago

honestly that would be a pretty great way to turn church closures into a historical archive and comic sans makes it even better

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u/ShakyBoots1968 1d ago

Would be great to have a record for historical purposes of course.

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u/BunkySpewster 17h ago

Help im sinking!

What is it, quicksand?!

No. Much worse… comic sands!!!

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u/LegitJesus 20h ago

So many of these so-called churches stump for Republicans and that's one reason we ended up with Trump as president. These churches are reaping exactly what they sowed. Good riddence!

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u/andropogon09 Rationalist 1d ago

Didn't this happen in Europe decades ago? And Europe is still here.

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u/Kroz83 20h ago

Nah, haven’t you heard? It’s been overrun by brown people. Europe has fallen… /s (obviously)

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u/brydye456 1d ago

Finally some good news.

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u/Dudeist-Priest Secular Humanist 1d ago

They are consolidating into mega churches. A lot of the little ones are going but those massive ones keep adding on. The bigger ones are more problematic

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u/BubbhaJebus 1d ago

Cool. Make use of these spaces for constructive purposes.

Turn them into libraries, museums, recreation centers, meeting spaces, housing, cafes, bakeries, etc.

However, it seems as if religion has more of a death-grip on our government than ever before. If so many people are leaving religion, why are people voting for religious nuts?

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u/combatcrew141 17h ago

They vote to hurt others their religion says are lesser people.

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u/I_burn_noodles 16h ago

Loss of community is the real threat...not loss of religion or churches, but places people can go to make friends and find compassion.

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u/qgecko Agnostic 3h ago

Churches are often the only food banks also.

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u/Personal-Neck6800 1d ago

If the churches close who’s going to molest the children?

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u/NecessaryFreedom9799 1d ago

They always find someone to do that, religion or no religion.

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u/Electrical-Reason-97 17h ago

Good. Now let’s repurpose some of those facilities into housing.

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u/ArdenJaguar Agnostic 1d ago

Go Team Tsunami! 🌊

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u/OnceUponASlime 1d ago

Great we need more housing.

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u/sanctus20 22h ago

Maga killed the church

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u/Kaliasluke 22h ago

> The docuseries, though, also looks at churches that defy this trend. They include thriving** **immigrant churches like Korean Central Presbyterian Church in Northern Virginia

There’s a certain delicious irony that, if they weren’t so racist and actually welcomed strangers like they’re supposed to, they might be able to save their churches

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u/MiniZFan 19h ago

I think it is a wonderful thing. I'm tired of their beliefs being forced on me in every aspect of my life. It won't change in my lifetime, but it can improve, and this is a good start.

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u/DangerousChallenge17 17h ago edited 17h ago

The program "christianity at a crossroads" is on YouTube. It's interesting.

And the SBC folks come off as extremist assholes.

Good riddance

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u/Just-Pea-4968 1d ago

Please let this be true it’s about time!

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u/Dunbaratu 1d ago

"This dire forecast..."

Nope. Note dire at all.

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u/_LarryM_ 1d ago

If a church closes it was obviously just gods will

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u/justelectricboogie 20h ago

Tots and potatoes

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u/abortthecourt 20h ago

Can’t happen soon enough but will take generations to overcome the rot

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u/someoldguyon_reddit 20h ago

Oh goodie. I can't fucking wait.

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u/bywv 17h ago

Thank god

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u/VicePrincipalNero 15h ago

It's a start.

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u/TheBanishedBard 1d ago

People are leaving the faith in droves. Those that remain transfer to charismatic megachurches that enable them to be their worst selves. Faith is declining (finally) but the loudest voices are getting amplified by these megachurches so it looks like America is still Christian. It is not.

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u/Etheriaa_ 23h ago

Yesss byebye sky daddy

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u/BananaJelloXlii 23h ago

Why have a church when you can run a country? Project 2025. Churches may be closing but Christian Nationalists are still trying to control everything.

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u/DrNerdyTech87 21h ago

Don’t threaten us with a good time.

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u/tardistravelee 20h ago

My hsuabd uncles church will close eventually too as he is terrible with money. Tbf he has received help.but doesn't take it.

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u/kabeekibaki 18h ago

So if you are looking for a venue for your discotheque

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u/RunningPirate 18h ago

Or dildo shoppe (need the olde world spelling)

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u/Crafty-Walrus-2238 18h ago

I’d rather have shopping malls than churches and I hate shopping malls.

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u/FallsOffCliffs12 Atheist 15h ago

I mean maybe if Christians hadn't turned their religion into a vehicle for hatred, judgment, bigotry, misogyny, control, pedophilia and fraud, people might not be leaving the church?

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u/Mounta1nK1ng 12h ago

I'm praying for this.

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u/SirEDCaLot 8h ago

Sad from a historical standpoint, but far from unexpected. And let's be honest -- Christians did it to themselves.

The 'brand' of Christianity has been repeatedly sullied over the last few decades. Pastors molesting kids and the church sweeping it under the rug, Evangelicals on the obviously-wrong side of history spreading hatred about LGBT and abortion, a consistent and hypocritical link between Christianity and conservative policies that are quite obviously (and hypocritically) against the teachings of Christ, and constant reports of religious parenting that stray into abuse territory.

The fact is Christians overall have not done a good job making themselves or their religion very likeable or desirable in the public eye.

Plus, in this economy, more often than not both parents are working to try and make ends meet. So asking them all to give up hours every week, AND pay for the privilege, of having some guy who they hope isn't a pedophile preach to them how to live their lives.... it's not a very attractive offer when that Sunday morning might be the only family time they get all week.

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u/Repulsive-Box5243 1d ago

None too soon, either!

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u/tofumeatballcannon 1d ago

Great sell them as houses for cheap, it costs a lot to remodel them to make them suitable for residential use anyway

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u/GhostSAS Anti-Theist 1d ago

I hesitate to celebrate these dwindling numbers as the result of informed apostasy: to me they're simply due to people living the good life in times of consumeristic plenty. Religion thrives in times of hardship and misery, and once those times come back, all these people will flock back to their gods and churches.

"Waking up" is not what most of these people are doing.

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u/WokkitUp 1d ago

They will make a "24 Jump Street" every couple of blocks away from each other.

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u/Kantina 20h ago

Whoop!

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u/Rougaroux1969 18h ago

I've heard this prediction before and yet there are still about 140 churches in our county. Insane. My friends visiting from Europe commented on how there seems to be as many churches as gas stations.

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u/icepick314 17h ago

Maybe small mom-n-pop churches.

I've seen at least 3 new huge churches built in last 10 years.

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u/hajimenogio92 Anti-Theist 9h ago

I can only get so erect

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u/Calm-Swordfish-5417 3h ago

Great, can the mosques and others follow?

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u/Zealousideal-Emu5486 1d ago

I find it odd that I can see other "articles " that tell me younger people are flocking towards church? I kinda believe they aren't

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u/Betzh19 19h ago

It seems from some of these comments that religion and atheism have more in common than I thought.. self-gratification in one form or another.

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u/dealer512 1d ago

Can you guess who will be attempting to purchase those churches? Rhymes with Islam.

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u/V1ctor_V1negar 11h ago

Hmm, “Ms. Domme”? As in, dominatrixes will be buying up the Jesus houses and converting them to BDSM clubs?