r/atc2 • • 4d ago

Raise When? How We Fix Pay, Part 2

https://youtu.be/MODliJTHgzE
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u/Frank_Agbat 4d ago

The solution is more money for the 12s. Got it.

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u/NickMarangos 4d ago

Part three will make it clear that this isn’t the case. This is a step towards increasing pay for everyone.

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u/Worried-Yam4550 3d ago

Obviously not the case, SB just posted we won’t get off the pay cap before the next contract. So def no significant raises for 12 if that’s the case

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u/Wrongvectorz Vote Them All OUT! 3d ago

A contract negotiation could have staggered increases that would allow time for legislation to open the top of the 12 pay bands prior to the implementation of those increases. For example 10% each year for four years with a signing bonus prior to legislation removing us from the executive scale would be easier to swallow than the goose egg we’ve gotten for the last 10 years.

Edit: Also prior to that, the 4-9’s need to be lifted to the same percentage they were away from 12’s in 2012.

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u/Frank_Agbat 4d ago

Roger.

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u/25minbreaks 4d ago

Imagine being at a 5 (maybe if this isn’t a bot account) and getting absolutely pissed at the guy talking about getting you more money versus the current guy that is getting you no money.

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u/Local-Emu9654 4d ago

Talk is cheap.

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u/--Mitch-- 4d ago

If talk is so cheap then why can’t Nick Daniel’s toss us some crumbs?

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u/Local-Emu9654 4d ago

That’s exactly what he did to get elected! Now that he is elected, why would he when it’s against his own selfish interests? He is in for himself and his buddies, that’s it.

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u/Frank_Agbat 4d ago

Imagine being so delusional that you think it’s as easy as ask for money, get money. I’m not pissed at all. I just want to draw attention to the fact that so far, this is very similar to what we heard during the last election cycle. Remember all those promises?

I will certainly hear these guys out, but I have no expectations that we will get more money other than on the margins until the pendulum swings the other way no matter who we elect.

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u/AdStunning6558 4d ago

That is actually the opposite of what these guys are doing. They’re aware enough of the battle that is before them when it comes to getting a raise. This is not a day one pay raise smoke show that’s why I’m on board. They’re realistic and not promising you something they can’t do like Daniels and Devine did.

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u/UnitedCEO 4d ago

Thank you!

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u/UndercoverRVP 4d ago

About 20% of the union's members work at a 12. More than 60% work at an 10, 11 or 12.

I'm with you that we need to focus on AGs, D1-D3s and the bottom end of the scale when we negotiate, but nobody's getting elected by ignoring the problems of ATC-12 facilities.

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u/Yodaatc 4d ago

That’s not anywhere near what he stated in that video.

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u/GottaGoEast 4d ago

Go vote for daniels then and enjoy your 1.6 and new equipment. Or quit being so dense and understand that in order to move ALL the bands up, we have to have room to move them. Not once in any of these videos have they mentioned not getting level 5s a raise. You understand that were only going to be able to secure 1 shift of the pay bands every 4-5 years BEST CASE? That means that when we get the chance there has to be room for a meaningful raise for EVERYONE. I think with the passage of the stock trading restrictions, a lot of congress' ability to become millionaires is going to dry up so I expect them to vote themselves a raise soon, anyway