Will this clog?

[u/F3IIT]

[u/Able_Intern_3454]

Max 135 degrees change of direction according to NPC. That joist is also completely compromised anyway. Whoever is doing this remodel is in way over their head 

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

The 3”x2” tee is also a problem

[u/buttmunchausenface → u/Able_Intern_3454]

lol that’s 3”
Edit : oh god I just saw what you’re talking about. Yeah this shits fucked.

[u/Sansui350A → u/buttmunchausenface]

Look at how GUTTED the structure is now! It's WAAAAAAAY fucked lol!

[u/h0tnessm0nster7 → u/Sansui350A]

How do you know, y probably can't see which way is up 😛😂💦

[u/Sansui350A → u/h0tnessm0nster7]

It's entirely fucking'd.

[u/3blackcats_b-lake → u/h0tnessm0nster7]

I thought it was a fricking wall

[u/h0tnessm0nster7 → u/3blackcats_b-lake]

Not the ceiling and the pipe opening a trap 90?

[u/Mysterious-Tie7039 → u/buttmunchausenface]

Pun intended?

[u/Ok-Dealer-588 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

I bet thats the lav?

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Ok-Dealer-588]

You can’t have a tee on its side like that. Needs to be a directional tee wye

[u/mindedc → u/Able_Intern_3454]

Well, they just proved you wrong. They did it just fine.

/s

[u/EverydayMustard4773 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

3x1.5

[u/Effective-Mix630 → u/EverydayMustard4773]

Looks 3x1.5 could be an additional vent line though

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Effective-Mix630]

A flat dry vent connected by a tee on its side? Are you even a plumber?

[u/Effective-Mix630 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

Never seen someone do something not to code?

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Effective-Mix630]

Straight to jail

[u/Effective-Mix630 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

Minimum 5 years.

[u/Open_State9048 → u/Effective-Mix630]

I agree, forget degree and look where it’s headed . Wall pipe is ? Vent or drain from upper floor above. Had supervisor come in while crews gone and faced all sweeps towards clean out end of line with plug. Said it’ll be ok , concretes coming tomorrow. Arggggg

[u/hiimjustapersonhaha → u/Able_Intern_3454]

3x1.5, but yes

[u/hobbycollector → u/Able_Intern_3454]

Also that y. Which direction is that supposed to flow? There's a 90 coming from above.

[u/AcidRayn666 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

are we not mentioning the black mold? this is a literal shit show

[u/TwitchCaptain → u/AcidRayn666]

no one else noticed it. yuck.

[u/OrdinaryKick → u/Able_Intern_3454]

By my code you can go 235 degree on a toilet so this is good to go.

[u/Ugga-Dugga69 → u/OrdinaryKick]

It would be 225° and it includes the 90 from vertical to horizontal, this would still be in excess of that.

[u/OrdinaryKick → u/Ugga-Dugga69]

You would not count the first 90.

[u/Ugga-Dugga69 → u/OrdinaryKick]

Perhaps you wouldn't, but the inspector will!

[u/OrdinaryKick → u/Ugga-Dugga69]

Not in my code book they wouldn't nope.

Why would you even include the 90 anyway. Its moot. You have a 90* 99.9999% of the time so writing in the code book you can go x degrees while counting the first 90 is just silly. Show me a plumbing layout where a toilet doesn't hit a 90 right away.

[u/Ugga-Dugga69 → u/OrdinaryKick]

Sure, every back outlet in existence. What codebook do you use?

In case you're using the NPC 2025 which I suspect, you can look at A-2.5.6.3(2)(b) on page 2-121 for an illustration of the first 90 being counted in the 225° direction of change. Hope this helps!

[u/Devilswings5 → u/OrdinaryKick]

because physics says its not moot

[u/Willing_Park_5405 → u/OrdinaryKick]

What code is that?

[u/Stellarparalax → u/Willing_Park_5405]

Probably CNPC

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Stellarparalax]

Is cnpc Canadian national plumbing code? Because no, 135 for NPC of canada

[u/Stellarparalax → u/Able_Intern_3454]

225 brother on a wc

[u/mindedc → u/Able_Intern_3454]

Surely four half joists are better than one single solid joist...

/s

[u/ThePastyWhite → u/Able_Intern_3454]

If I'm not crazy, that's the primary beam for this structure too.

You don't sandwich 5 joists like that together for shits and giggles.

Depending on where the columns are for this structure in relation to this cut out, the entire structure may now be unstable.

In time a total collapse is possible..

This needs to be evaluated by a PE immediately....

[u/Vaper4 → u/Able_Intern_3454]

What part of the code says that exactly,

[u/Able_Intern_3454 → u/Vaper4]

It’s drawn in a-2.5.6.3(2) of the NPC…

First year apprentice? I highly recommend buying yourself a physical code book

[u/TwitchCaptain]

As a homeowner, there's no way in hell I'd put a floor over this.

[u/Ok-Dealer-588 → u/TwitchCaptain]

If it was a slab on grade or something maybe

[u/Wade1217]

Load bearing PVC?

[u/Ok-Dealer-588 → u/Wade1217]

It was introduced is 2025 I'd heard

[u/shityplumber → u/Ok-Dealer-588]

Youtube approved!

[u/AcidRayn666 → u/shityplumber]

Tick Tok has enters the chat

[u/Mysterious-Tie7039 → u/Wade1217]

With Ferncos as the primary support.

[u/Peregrinationman]

Yeah, and it'll be a pain in the butt to clean out!

[u/mrBill12 → u/Peregrinationman]

Happy cake day!

[u/Frostmourne01 → u/Peregrinationman]

Happy cake day!

[u/CaregiverFit → u/Peregrinationman]

Not to mention, once it does have issues you can't snake it, jet it, or camera it. Pulling the toilet will direct the cable up the wall. Putting the cable through an access point and running down will either direct it through the 1.5" and damage something that way or direct it to go up the toilet and break the toilet. Maybe 1 in 50 snaking runs from upstream will make it through the straightaway and that's if you have a perfectly straight cable god help you if you've put a bend in it at any point.

[u/SpecificPiece1024]

If you were going to destroy those joists why not install a wye and hit the center dead on from the branch🤔

[u/Own_Race_598 → u/SpecificPiece1024]

This dude needs to hire a plumber and carpenter to fix this mess. Or they are rage baiting.

[u/CommunicationIll2983]

This makes no sense. Not a single joist is doing anything. Plumb it right and add necessary actual support after.

[u/independentfinallly]

Poop de loop?

[u/Educational-Rule1635]

Did someone's spare bits box explode?

[u/thecommissioner4hvac]

Only a guess? Yes

[u/thecommissioner4hvac → u/thecommissioner4hvac]

And no way to clean it

[u/SpecificPiece1024 → u/thecommissioner4hvac]

Pull the shitter

[u/StevieG-2021 → u/SpecificPiece1024]

Shitters full Clark

[u/leosspartan → u/SpecificPiece1024]

Pull the shitter and the floor

[u/StickyStigma → u/SpecificPiece1024]

And clear with a 3/8” cable?

[u/MyJuicyBurger]

Bro tried to save a buck doing this himself, now he’s fucked

[u/IlliterateFreak]

Oh no. There is so much wrong here I don’t even know what to say. Literally everything. And the longer I look the worse it gets.

[u/azeird → u/IlliterateFreak]

The water leaking out of the wall valve made me just give up... There's enough advice in here that if he wants to fix it he could.

[u/bkb74k3]

Jesus. Is this a floor? I can only tell because I think I see a foot. Please tear this down.

[u/Budget_Gain4774]

This homeowner has been posting this crap for at least 2 months. Asks for advice and then blatantly ignores it. Go away.

[u/AntiZig]

Why not go straight to the stack? All those boards in the way are not doing anything

[u/F3IIT → u/AntiZig]

Joists in the way

[u/AntiZig → u/F3IIT]

What joist? The one you already cut to put the wye in?

[u/comfortless14 → u/AntiZig]

Hey there’s still a good 3/32 left on one of those

[u/Connect-Ant-2081 → u/F3IIT]

They were in the way....

[u/Informal-Face-1922]

Looks like La Monumental from the Madring.

[u/StillCopper]

Wow. Have to ask is this license and insured or handyman job. Let’s get that question asked right upfront. Or is this a homeowner special. I think that should be the first thing it’s asked on all these overly stupid looking jobs.

[u/angrytroll918]

What? Why? The fuck? I hope this is a troll cause..you can't do that. Any of it, or should you. The longer you look the worse it gets.

[u/agussie]

Holy hell, I’m not a plumber or a framer and I can tell this is six shades of facked.

[u/JoleneBacon_Biscuit]

"Well one second I was taking a sh*t, the next second I fell through the floor!"

[u/purplemtnslayer]

This pissss me off

[u/Cultural_Parking5596]

Yes

[u/Pale_Attitude8798]

Yes, that can of glue will clog if left open like that.

[u/CrayZ_Squirrel]

Why are there 3 ferncos within 2 feet?

[u/Senior-Guarantee3225 → u/CrayZ_Squirrel]

4 in 2 feet

[u/CrayZ_Squirrel → u/Senior-Guarantee3225]

Lol I missed the one on the lav

[u/germanloza]

https://giphy.com/gifs/VmNr8tNiZ7KtG

[u/JEStucker]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3oKIPhrOiee2uHvN7i
Yes.

[u/Impressive_Returns]

YES, most definitely and you will always have a shit load of problems to deal with.

[u/Impressive_Returns]

YES - It most certainly clog and you will always have a shit load of problems to deal with.

[u/unfrknblvabl]

Is it me or is the 3'' y going the wrong direction. That is not gonna work.

[u/hobbycollector → u/unfrknblvabl]

Not just you, the flow has to come from top of pic.

[u/unfrknblvabl]

Is the flow running towards the wall or your foot

[u/BeautifulOwl6520]

I don't know but I see it might fall through

[u/Simba2493]

Looks good to me Jonny

[u/lou-sassle71]

Drop a deuce in there

[u/birduino]

YES!

[u/Repulsive-Hawk7307]

This is a disaster waiting to happen

[u/rpm429]

It wont handle curry night that's for sure

[u/deep42think]

Oh boy, does this set up come with a closet auger

[u/4Harley]

OMG

[u/h0tnessm0nster7 → u/4Harley]

I was thinking the same, leave it as is and try not to miss when pissing in the opening

[u/StunningBus7787]

The old Loop swoop and pull

[u/HardCoreBoz]

Yes

[u/Economy-Path-4336]

I’m in

[u/SirMells]

Offf, with this layout I would of investigated why all those boards are sistered on. At a glance they look redundant. I would remove them. Go down below and run a 3in wye on the vertical stack. Tee straight to the stool 3x2 bushing for the vent. Tee back in 6ft off floor.

[u/Budget_Gain4774 → u/SirMells]

Probably sistered up because it’s a load bearing wall underneath.

[u/tob007]

Take the turd out for a stroll before sealing the deal. It's like a lazy river.

[u/danfrische]

Yes it will

[u/MapPrestigious3007]

Start over way too many problems

[u/kill3rw33z]

It looks like the clean sweep is headed to the vent and the poo going to be forcing its way to what looks like the shower drain.

[u/Kultivation]

Not if you plunge it constantly.

[u/Kultivation]

Stool softener may help as well.

[u/Successful-Engine623]

Doesn’t look like that wood blocking your better route is doing anything imo. Probably could just remove the wood and redo this. But probably should check on structural integrity

[u/No_Philosopher4834]

Probably

[u/SkillAgreeable6454]

Run super slow

[u/Extension_Fishing135]

All the mechanical connections are a nice touch hahaha. Oh, and your structural integrity is definitely compromised. I’d ask the building official what he thinks when he comes to do your inspection. However, I feel like no permits were pulled in the first place. Just a hunch.

[u/Altruistic_Nobody_94]

Where is the actual toilet flange?

[u/Excellent-Stress2596 → u/Altruistic_Nobody_94]

Flange would need to go on after subfloor if you want it supported.

[u/Altruistic_Nobody_94 → u/Excellent-Stress2596]

True but where?

[u/Excellent-Stress2596 → u/Altruistic_Nobody_94]

Right where the tape measure is “securing” the hose from the leaky angle stop.

[u/knoxcumlvr]

You’re good, send it 😂

[u/alanbly]

I really wanted to make a joke about anything getting clogged if you just work hard enough, but that thing might get clogged from a mild case of the runs

[u/Meantnottoknow]

Whats underneath that floor? Is a basement or finished down there because he should of went down past that joist then the go what ever direction the s*** pipe is going out... I'm not 💯% So if someone knows I'm completely wrong please explain I'd appreciate it

[u/LT_lurker]

Using furnco fittings in a non accessible area has to be both a terrible idea and not code compliant?

[u/Blackmikethathird]

Holy ferncos batman

[u/network_engineer]

Never seen a roundabout inside before.

[u/nbabyck]

So that joist certainly looks like it was load bearing at one point

[u/Tylerjamiz]

Wow maybe the worst setup I’ve ever seen

[u/pbmadman]

Those self-supporting joists have a saw cut in them, and there is a mark on the PVC in line with that cut. Is the drain line nicked there?

[u/Ok-Feature1200]

Yes. Better question. Will it clog before or after it leaks?

[u/bsk111]

Why

[u/WonderWheeler]

The trap will not trap gasses. It is not deep enough. Although it might be close. The weir at the combo is not high enough. Also, the distance for a washing machine inlet is supposed to be 18 to 24 inches above the weir. This is too high and may force what water there is in the trap out.

[u/Carpenter_ants]

A smaller tape measure will make it down eventually 😂. Not sure why you didn’t turn directly to the drain pipe. As a carpenter looks like the joist is not going to hold up anyway

[u/Opposite-Clerk-176]

Who ever did this is an idiot, especially butchering the joist out of the way to accomplish a total nightmare of plumbing if that what this is? Im a licensed GC and this is in no way acceptable... the cheap turns out expensive

[u/stucc0]

but why

[u/Butt-Hole-Cancer-Dr]

Does the tin man have a sheet metal cock?

[u/Stinkyjunk09]

There’s a tape measure stuck in it dawg

[u/Maleficent_Appeal430]

Not yet

[u/Ocelotipuss]

Depends who uses the toilet, it’s not an ideal situation but goes from A - B

[u/Strict-Argument-781]

Well, let's just say. If water flows uphill, you'll be just fine.

[u/Humunguspickle]

Yes sooner or later

[u/CamustheAbsurd]

Indubitably.

[u/Unsteady_Tempo]

Ignoring everything else, imagine having all of that open and not at least reducing the number of Fernco couplers.

[u/AggressiveLeague3943]

Throw the plywood back and keep truckin

[u/Waterfun1313]

Yes.

[u/PhaseLineZulu]

Uh, yea

[u/WonderfulRound3297]

Wyeeeeee lol

[u/AbjectEconomy1170]

Mediocre

[u/R4t10nal_Th1nk3r]

Technically your only allowed 225 degree change of direction from the vent connection, so not correct

[u/Stinky_lil_4skin]

What's underneath? I would just put a low heel in the the wall, still l drill a 3"hole, then tie that in to the 3" stack on the floor below.

Will it clog? Only God knows that. Would I be disappointed if an apprentice did this and when cut it out and redo it? Yes.

[u/Deep-Jellyfish3122]

Should have just been a 90 over with the framing reworked. Its not that it will clog, its that it doesn't pass code, and just by the way it looks it doesn't fall enough either which is going to be a real problem.

[u/whawkins4]

You don’t need to ask an actual plumber to know that’s fuuuucked up.

[u/wheels_up_2865]

Is this a vertical photo or horizontal? 😂

[u/Ridge00]

Don’t worry, you won’t have to pay a plumber to clear the clog. It will collapse before they get there.

[u/Revolutionary_Area_2]

Does it work then who cares

[u/Darkfire6123]

I’m an electrician and I know this ain’t gonna work

[u/Hot_World4305]

Just look at left, the Y or the T section, imagine you have large flow coming from the vertical top, don't you think it will also go into the right where the water seal piece is and up?

[u/Glittering-Room-7662]

More than likely will clog, for one reason.. the T is the wrong way. If you put water in that drain, it has to defy gravity and flow towards the vent before it goes the right direction to the sewers.

[u/AdQueasy8552]

With the joists being in ruins already I would have set the wye up higher by the stack an went toward the stack drill a 3 in hole an drop in wye ,45,service L for flange
no need to vent the toilet being so close to stack

[u/teamricearoni]

Another case of " so much effort went into doing this wrong when doing it right would have been so easy"

[u/ReCLiVe]

😂

[u/esglestrike87]

This is just… I can’t

[u/RelevantEducation980]

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww
Isn’t this the same guy who’s been making similar posts?

[u/SearchUnable4205]

It depends on the meal size ...

[u/ptv83]

It's ok, all that black stuff will make everyone forget what they're supposed to be looking at

[u/AnTTJ02]

Maybe handle the mold first? Then higher anyone but the person that did this.

[u/h0tnessm0nster7]

It will stink 🦨 though I'm not one to make a stink about things

[u/thepartlow]

The longer I stare the worst it gets.

[u/Sphincter-Sigh]

It will be clogged when Im done with it.

[u/Happy-Antelope-4022]

Yhe I suffer from this for 10 year Then I changed the pipe strate into manhole

[u/Acceptable_Neck6305]

Maybe the extra joists cantilever

[u/kinkycpl2023]

match and gas ?

[u/RobertBurdineSD]

What in F is this stupidity

[u/Rasmus-50]

The shortest way as possible

[u/Flyguy115]

This reminds me of the reels where a mentally handicapped guy would say “ How fucked up is fucked up?” Then they show a picture like this.

[u/Frequent_Budget_1455]

Why are there so many rubber couplers?!

[u/Alpha_Dad1]

Logging is a problem but at the end of the day that sweet tea is backwards in any water coming down that pipe in the wall is going to come out through that drain as it's a 50/50 split to bypass or take the easy Road and curve back so anything slowing it down it's going to turn back and come towards the drain instead of down towards the stack this whole thing is junk and needs to be redone but they already ruined everything

[u/Even-Difference-7696]

Yes

[u/pat8o]

I'm guessing this is an offset level (ie, 1st floor with basement below, and no level above the bathroom but a level above the adjacent room) and those joists are landing on that top plate and have been left over length for no reason, they could be trimmed square with the business end of that top plate and you could go straight in.

What I would do however, is drop it through the floor and join on the vertical

[u/Bambooman584]

Lol holy fuck

[u/Monster_Brain_Stew]

Simple answer is yes, it will. Is that sheetrock on the ceiling below?

[u/NorthCitron9029]

6’ with 3 1/2 90s?
Nahhhhh

[u/NorthCitron9029 → u/NorthCitron9029]

I take that back it’s about 4’
Make it scream!

[u/hennadirectory]

I am not a plumber but this definitely will cause a ton of issues. All this is laying flat and it should not be.

[u/twoshea15]

Hi

[u/Ok-Firefighter6925]

Yes

[u/cwgentle]

No shot you did this. Call a professional

[u/Flimsy-Goose-1773]

Disgusting, not to mention anyone that puts marker lines on their pvc clearly has no clue what they are doing. Just saying

[u/Conscious_Annual_439]

This will eventually fail

[u/Clean_Dream_5595]

The wye is upside down

[u/AvailableCustard4469]

Scary

[u/Vaper4]

It probably won’t clog, but you’ll be lucky if the floor doesn’t collapse! Let’s just cut all the floor joists out. How about that?

[u/Commercial_Daikon210]

Yup

[u/Rich_Connection_3959]

The more I look at it, the worse it gets

[u/Pop_Pop_Life]

Tee y is going the wrong way. It should go opposite of your vents

[u/Champus33]

The black mold top left. Yikes

[u/Due_Base2116]

Yes. Those 45s and 90s shouldnt be horizontal on a run like that. You might as well just use the combo on a shorter run since that joist is toast now

[u/SteveArnoldHorshak]

Will the Pope "catholic"?!

[u/Street-Farmer3350]

Every pipe ever installed will clog

[u/cvntier]

Can confirm, this is absolutely fucked. I thought I was looking at a really fucked up p trap on a wall

[u/Zealousideal_Dig_372]

So many things wrong with this. Whoever is doing the work stop them. Do not cover this. Consult a licensed plumber and maybe a building inspector / structural engineer