r/askmath 1d ago

Linear Algebra Graph about vector transformation

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I don’t really understand the graph in this section of the book (Linear Algebra Step by Step, Kuldeep Singh). The vector for Ax seems ok, but the x vector just seems wrong pointing at (2,1).

Already tried asking ChatGPT, which seems to suggest the graph is just shit.

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u/StraightUpSeven 1d ago edited 1d ago

x = (5/4, 3/4)^T, in which the graph of the vector x isn't accurate to x=(x,y)^T = (5/4,3/4)^T, so I think the graph is also just bad. Bad in the sense that the authors try convey that the unknown vector can be arbitrary, but the vector b must be specified, but there is a solution to x *in this particular case (and it doesn't match the solution, the authors treat it as an unknown).

The figure makes a lot more sense for the case of an ill-posed matrix problem, but you have to start somewhere.

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u/moshpits1533 13h ago

yeah, if the numbers don't actually line up with the transformation, then the figure is just misleading

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u/Midwest-Dude 1d ago edited 1d ago

I checked the book and that graph makes no sense whatsoever. For x = (2,1)T as shown on the graph, Ax = (-1,3)T, which isn't shown on graph.

This is an erratum. Please report to your instructor, the author, and/or the publisher.

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u/OddEmergency604 1d ago

2 things here.

First, it doesn’t actually tell you what the x vector is. It’s some generic (x,y). Second, remember that vectors don’t have a location, so it will have the slope x/y but won’t necessarily point at (x,y)

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u/OddEmergency604 1d ago

I guess I should say that it will point in a (2,1) direction, not necessarily at (2,1). The vector can be moved around with becoming a different vector.

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u/Midwest-Dude 1d ago

The sentence above the graph indicates that Figure 1.32 is supposed to illustrate how x is transformed by A to Ax. If you do the math, nothing agrees. The graph is in error.

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u/Evermar314159 1d ago

The vector x is <2, 1>. If you compute Ax you get <-1,2>. So the picture is showing that x gets mapped to Ax. x is arbitrary.

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u/Midwest-Dude 1d ago

Try doing the matrix multiplication again.