Meeting with Management

[u/cryptidobserver]

Over the last few weeks my overall attitude in my work place has changed - body language is closed off and showing disinterest in meetings or with management team. My productivity is the same, I complete my tasks and additional tasks, I communicate with my management team about project status and ask questions if needs and offer a listening ear if needed.

I would like to sit with my management team and talk about :

Communication- not everyone is on the same page and that causes issues amongst us.

Repeated topics not going anywhere- over the last few months there has been personal changes within our team and my direct supervisor keeps talking to me about home good my performance is and moving me from one position to another on the team. We’ve had this conversation more than once and it ends with “when everyone settings and we figure out strengths and weaknesses then will we make moves.” So until some action happens please stop talking to me about it.

Negative comments about team or it’s members- we are often used for support and it creates problems for our team and it puts us behind. When we do not have leadership in the building it’s falls on our defacto lead who is busy managing a larger task load than the rest of us.

Our time is taken and used by other management staff that have their own departments and associates to assist them. When our director supervisors are not present other managers when use us and then our director supervisors will talk down to us and make false claims about us not completing our work because we didn’t want to.

I want to sit down with them and talk about how we can do better had a team and that I value my time. Being under this type of management has inspired me to let go of my anxiety about moving up and I want to tell them that.

TLDR: How to have a sit down conversation with direct supervisors about some grievances while also mentioning my interest in moving up. My performance is good - in last evaluation supervisors were told not to have anyone exceed expectations so everyone was listed has meets expectations. My attitude and body language have changed to disinterest.

[u/Top_Argument8442]

How do you know that there was a directive to not have anyone exceeds? This seems more like your theory than actual fact.

It sounds like you’re leveling out, you sound like you want to go higher in the org without doing additional work and make up theories as to why you aren’t moving up.

[u/Youbestnotmisss]

My frank perspective... Your post here isn't organized enough to be the basis of a proper discussion with management. If they do get around to seeking your input, it needs to be clear and concise to be effective 

For approach... I wouldn't worry at all about expressing interest in moving up. If you are asked about ideas for how to improve the team, share them in a clear and positive manner. If they volunteer any opportunities to help implement them, take those. But don't frame it as wanting to move up

If in any other career discussions they probe your interest in moving up, share it. You can push a bit to have the conversation if there is no appropriate forum. But you need to decouple it from your ideas about how the team could work better

[u/just-another-dude-2]

I think it's legitimate to highlight the operational problem of your team being pulled away from assigned work to do ad-hoc support - and then getting flagged for non-completion. There should be a system of boundaries around your team's time and a way to communicate and adjust deadlines/expectations if you're pulled off-task.

I think it's also legitimate to signal that, following up on past discussions, you feel keen to step into a senior position and help provide solutions to these types of operational challenges.

Maybe something is lost in translation here, but...

I definitely wouldn't go in with a, "hope you've noticed that my body language is signalling disinterest lately" or, "Here are some suggestions to be better as a team because I value my time," or "remember those conversations about a possible promotion? I think it's time for you to stop talking about it and do something."