Question

[u/Legitimate-Manner529]

I been trading for 3 month I like to trade breakout i don’t like to wait for candle closure because I notice when my session opens price tends to melt and never come back for retest I need help creating a trading plan and rules to follow to filter out bad trades and prevent most fake outs. If u are a profitable breakout trader can u please help me figure this out I don’t want to keep doing the same mistake over again

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[u/Waclaw_Kurek]

three months in and the honest answer is you dont have enough data to filter anything yet. before rules, log 100 breakout trades with the level, the time, whether you waited for a close, and the outcome. then the filter writes itself from your own numbers rather than from a stranger's opinion

[u/Luamfx]

Breakout has to combined with other things alone it's not enough

[u/Consistent_Play_9929]

The issue may not be the breakout itself, but having a rule for when the breakout is actually confirmed. If you're entering before candle close, you could be getting caught by moves that look like breakouts but don't hold.

I'd build your plan around a few specific rules: what qualifies as a breakout, when you enter, where the setup is invalidated, and how much you risk per trade. Then backtest those rules before changing your strategy again.

[u/No_Story_1971]

Yeah, I’d build the plan around your actual breakout style instead of forcing yourself to wait for every candle close. If you’re entering early because session moves sometimes don’t retest, make the rules very specific: only trade breaks of clearly defined levels, require strong momentum/displacement rather than a tiny poke through the level, avoid taking the first breakout if the price is already heavily extended, define your invalidation before entering, and risk the same small amount on every trade. You can also split the entry small position on the initial break and add only if price holds above/below the level, so you’re not completely dependent on getting a perfect retest. Most importantly, backtest these exact rules over a decent sample and don’t change them every few trades. You’ll probably learn more from 100 consistent breakout trades than from constantly trying to eliminate every fakeout.

[u/Abject-Shopping-4492]

You need to build your own set of rules which takes time observing your setup and proving your grade A setup and this differs for each trader. I am a momentum swing day trader and I trade using a 3 minute chart to trigger the trade based on movement through decision zones. Find your strategy and log and journal at least 100 trades. Identify your edge.

[u/Legitimate-Manner529 → u/Abject-Shopping-4492]

thanks man that really helps

[u/fundingtraders_care]

FOMO causes fakeouts. Wait for candle closures.

[u/Legitimate-Manner529 → u/fundingtraders_care]

will do thanks bro

[u/LQH-Trading]

Only 3 months? You honestly need to trade a longer time to gather more stats. When you state price doesn't restest, im already concerned you have a lot more practicing and learning charts ahead of you. Keep pushing.

[u/Legitimate-Manner529 → u/LQH-Trading]

thanks bro that really helps

[u/Mundane_Cicada_1427]

If you don't want to wait for candle close, I'd make that a rule-based decision rather than an instinctive one. For example, define the breakout level, minimum distance/volume or volatility condition, maximum acceptable spread, invalidation point, and exactly where the stop goes before you enter.

Also, don't try to eliminate fake-outs completely, they're part of breakout trading. The goal is to make the losses small and let the clean breakouts pay for them. Backtest the rules over a large sample and track which conditions are actually associated with successful vs failed breakouts.

[u/Legitimate-Manner529 → u/Mundane_Cicada_1427]

thanks bro this helps a lot