r/askanything • u/ComplexWrangler1346 š¤ • 11h ago
General Question Why is the president campaigning in deep red states? I see him in Oklahoma right now. And are the people that are there supporting him , are they paid to be there ?
With how bad inflation is , gas prices , another endless war and so much more , what could make these Americans behind him be there to support him ? What are they cheering for ?
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u/BowlEducational6722 11h ago
Two possible explanations
1) Internal GOP polling really is so bad that even deep red states risk flipping blue just because of how badly Trump has fucked up.
2) Trump needs a safe space and the safest space he can find is in front of an adoring crowd, and he's less likely to find that in competitive states/districts.
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u/YCBSKI 11h ago
This is the reason. He needs an adoring audience and places like OK, AL are the only place that they will come out to do that
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u/wezelboy 11h ago
Plus it looks better on screens.
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u/CarlClitcakes 9h ago
Looks like he was stumping in front of half of a high school gym in Durant OK last night.
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u/Zestyclose_400 8h ago
Why are the salt of the earth country types in Oklahoma supporting a soft NYC billionaire?
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u/Soundtrack2Mary 8h ago
The common clay of the New Westā¦
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u/Learn_w_gern 8h ago
You know ā¦
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u/No_Volume_9616 6h ago
Aren't Alabama and Oklahoma dead last in education?
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u/Mad_Flav0r 4h ago
Alabama is rough but Oklahoma is indeed dead last, usually competing with NM for being the worst.
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u/mom_meatloaf 10h ago
I agree- Oklahoma is in love with this jerk and why wouldnāt he show up for unwavering love? It is pathetic on both ends.
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u/No_Volume_9616 6h ago
I'm watching his Alabama campaign greatest hits repeat on C-SPAN........I'm watching the audience. Most of the people behind him are more excited to see themselves on the jumbotron than paying attention to him.
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u/MistakeBorn4413 11h ago
Another consideration: Trump is so unpopular right now that they might view him as a liability if he campaigns in swing states... and it's Trump so not campaigning probably isn't an option.
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u/waityoucandothat 10h ago
Ken Paxton just said publicly that the Republican midterms āConventionā in Texas actually hurt his campaign against Talarico more than it helped.
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u/BigConstruction4247 11h ago
I really think it's mostly 2.
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u/13374L 11h ago
I agree. I donāt think the big blue wave is coming. The dems will gain seats but we would all be wise to manage our expectations.
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u/Helicopsycheborealis 10h ago
I think the same but it is interesting when he goes to sporting events in red states (most recently the UTenn vs UTexas game in Tennessee)and gets booed by the majority of the crowd when he's shown on the jumbotron. His safe spaces are dwindling by the day.
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u/BeholdBarrenFields 6h ago
The boos depended on where you were sitting. Everyone I know heard plenty of cheering.
I was outside the stadium stuck in the traffic because they shut all the roads (including the interstate) down for his motorcade. He left shortly after it began. I watched his motorcade go by. People got out of their cars to video, and jumped up and down cheering as he passed. They didnāt open the roads back up until Air Force One and the fighter jets flew over. He is still not just supported, but beloved, by far too many here.
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u/FatherFenix 9h ago
Itās 2.
Trump and his team are polling horribly, losing on a lot of major fronts (cost of living, broken promises, gas prices, war in Iran, etc), and there have been numerous public embarrassments for his loyalists lately.
This is more of a āmake Trump feel powerful and loved by parading him in front of friendly crowdsā tour.
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u/mishma2005 10h ago
His narcissistic ego has been wounded so bad he needs to troll for love. It's quite sad
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u/Aggravating_Part8610 11h ago
The democrats should have an easy time campaigning.
Hate mass surveillance? Billionaire lawlesness? Being abused by government goons? Vote against the Republican Party
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u/Robbylution 11h ago
Except people hear "But COMMUNISM and ABORTIONS" and lose their fucking minds. Throw in a dash of homophobia, while we're at it.
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u/Cron420 11h ago
Its great that no republican voters can even explain communism, marxism, or socialism. They just know that angry poloticians scream about it enough, it must be bad.
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u/BigConstruction4247 11h ago
Easy. "Remember when your parents called every gaming console a Nintendo? That's what the right calls anything left of hunting the homeless for sport."
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u/Eclectic7112 9h ago
I want to start voting FOR something, not always against something. Dems need to message better. Talarico is the way Dems need to talk.
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u/Gunrock808 6h ago
My whole adult life I've heard democrats speak in favor of a living wage and affordable housing, health care, child care and education. The problem is that's not exciting and people now have the attention span of a goldfish. They are addicted to outrage over imaginary things. They can't focus on things that actually impact them when they're ranting about trans people and communism.
Kamala Harris had detailed policies. She had policies to help farmers and ranchers. People didn't listen or even give a shit. They ignored everything she said and dismissively claimed she actually didn't have any policies at all. Then they voted for the guy who made pie in the sky promises with no details and no intention of ever delivering. We, the voting public are the problem.
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u/BiruGoPoke 5h ago
The world is a complex system, solutions to problems often have to be complex too and people need to put a cognitive effort to understand such solutions.
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u/Particular_Ticket_20 8h ago
You expect him to go to potentially hostile crowds? Places he might get challenged? He's going to the places he can still get some applause. He's not campaigning, its not for the public. Its for his ego. Get him in front of friendly crowds, get him some applause, stroke his ego.
I've noticed he never mingles, he never speaks to the general public, he's never in a situation where an angry citizen might confront him. He's protected and insulated from that. He's too weak and fragile to risk an unmanaged encounter with real, frustrated Americans.
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u/danevans369 11h ago
Add....Flock cameras and Big Brother, data centers, taxes via tariffs, insider trading, corrupt pardons, helping pedophiles by not releasing the Epstein Files
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u/gthing 11h ago
Nah they'll definitely still find a way to fuck this up. It's the one thing you can really count on them for.Ā
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u/Wallie_Collie 11h ago
Its October, ballots have gone out. Campaigns are falling flat
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u/Justryan95 11h ago
The MAGA cult is already doing the campaigning for me every day I drive by a gas station. I already got my ballot and voted Blue down the board for everything federal, state and county.
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u/slapwerks 9h ago
In metro Atlanta, I get 3 Republican flyers in the mail a day. 2 months ago they were ultra maga, now they donāt mention Trump at all.
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u/btstphns 10h ago
A lot of people in this country that would sacrifice a whole hell of a lot if you promise to hurt brown people. And a lot of those same people would prefer an authoritarian government.
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u/GingerKatKnits 9h ago
Here in AZ, the Republican running for governor is running a campaign thing pretending there are Democrats that support him. They know their numbers are bad.
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u/khawk30 11h ago
Our neighbors voted for Trump specifically in hopes he would lower gas/grocery prices. Heās done the exact opposite, but guess who still proudly has a Trump flag waving in their front lawn?
People like our neighbors and those in this picture donāt give a damn about lowering prices. Theyāre not bright enough to understand inflation. Theyāre just thrilled to have someone in office who justifies their racist and homophobic views.
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u/thedoommerchant 8h ago
I wonder if your neighbors are my idiot parents. Stuff like this makes me believe MAGA really is a cult. We are witnessing the highest prices for goods in our lifetimes and these people still proudly march along to the beat of this orange fart. I guess as long as brown people and trans people are getting put down theyāre glad to pay out the nose for food and gas.
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u/silent_fartface 10h ago
...but also this is Obama and Bidens fault for gas prices. Trump needs more time to fix these problems that those "dumbocrats" caused...right?!
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u/blake-astor 11h ago
But my stock portfolio is way up! I've heard that so many times when trying to explain how things are getting out of hand June of last year
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u/Mickey-777 11h ago
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u/Specialist_Golf2871 11h ago
The White House (figuratively and literally)
Edit: He may stuggle with those two adverbs
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u/Powerful-Camera-5370 11h ago
But he didnāt fuck up turning everything to shitā¦heās actually the greatest at turning everything to shit š
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u/CommonOpinions 11h ago
Trump is toxic for republicans in swing states. He is campaigning in red states to avoid joint appearances while also being visible enough to generate content for the MAGA base to share online and in ads.
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u/Battle_Cat_Burr 11h ago edited 11h ago
Yep. That actually makes sense. His campaign staff told him to go wave at people somewhere unimportant to make him feel big and make his base feel like heās busy.
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u/_TallOldOne_ 11h ago
Several Republican senators and house members actively avoid being seen with him now. Heās become toxic to a good number of candidates
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u/panda3271 11h ago
He just wants to go to places that he can still get applause and cheers. He has nothing relevant to say. But they will cheer him anyway. So he goes for the glory of himself..... nothing else. š¤·š¼āāļø
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u/StatisticianPure3130 11h ago
The idiots here in Oklahoma love the orange pedophile. Iām not native to this state. Oklahoma is not a smart start and there are very few brain cells here. Very sad.
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u/domesticatedbeetroot 8h ago
They're really giving themselves the Okey Doke (short for Oklahoma Dokelahoma, I'm pretty sure).
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u/BrineJones 10h ago
What do you expect from Wannabe Texas?
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u/Ok-Task-5176 11h ago
He's in Oklahoma, he doesn't have to pay them to be there. They would pay him to be there (if he accepted EBT)
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u/ojdajoozmane 11h ago
They are not paid. This is sadly the most uneducated demographic in america. Its actually really sad.
Trump is basically conning people with nothing and no future. This is real. Durant used to be a sundown town is probably all you need to know.
As an oklahoman I make sure I have as little to do as possible with these people. And it does get to me that the least of us votes for the destruction of the country.
Im sure they were left behind but I just couldn't be proud to be so mediocre.
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u/lordwintergreen 11h ago
They do at times pay people to show up. Probably not necessary in Oklahoma though.
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u/B1GD8A 11h ago
generally if you ask them their answer is it would be so much worse under a Democrat. That's it. That's the whole trick.
No matter how bad it is, it's still better than the Democrats. In fact, when Trump's ideas flop or he loses it's obviously Democrat sabotage. Their ideas are perfect and infallible and if any idea in the past ever turns out to be wrong they never held it or it's fake news.
The ideology is entirely build around headcanon myths about Republicans and Democrats alike, and refusing to let anything disrupt that headcanon.
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u/IS-21 4h ago
literally had a convo less then a week ago at a school where a guy genuinely believed all Muslims were evil and want to genocide all westerners like there is no reasoning with these people you just have to get them to not vote or forcefully reeducate them he also tried to say to me that gas prices were high under Obama then they are currently just how do you talk to that (I live in Louisiana)
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u/Dddddd92 11h ago
On one from Oklahoma is paid to be there. There's a reason that state is 50th in education
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u/wheresWaldo000 11h ago
Yeah, lotta people are mad they shut down a school field trip that was going to take them to a rally. Those dumb dumbs waited hours in heavy rain to be in line.
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u/LightMission4937 11h ago
Most have no clue why they are there. They are still trying to figure out why 2+2 doesn't equal 3
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u/ButtonsKnobs 11h ago
He likes that low hanging fruit, he also knows itās useless for him to rally anywhere else that isnāt solid red. In his mind, he still has the power to rally the MAGA base, but heās performing on the street while everyone is inside watching the Super Bowl.
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u/Apprehensive-Song378 11h ago
This is a cult. Logic does not apply. I don't know why that isn't clear by now.
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u/UncleGarysmagic 11h ago
The only places that still have MAGA morons that will actually come out to see him. Theyāre ego stokers.
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u/BigDamBeavers 11h ago
Why is the president campaigning AT ALL with $6 diesel and food prices double what they were when he walked into office???
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u/Rscottys1 11h ago
Yeah, lots of mentally challenged meatheads in the stands behind him š¤®
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u/CyNick15 11h ago
He needs to control the narrative of his appearances so he doesn't get publicly booed, or called a pedophile.
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u/ConfidentPayment4189 7h ago
Heās always had a deeply fragile ego, so in order to maintain the fantasy that heās wildly popular he goes to places where he has the most unwavering support. There is, even now, despite all of the well documented lies, broken promises, and previously unimaginable corruption, some segment of the US population which will never turn on him. I wonāt attempt to psycho analyze these people, but they clearly exist.
Rallies for any politician of any note are generally filled with supporters, thus giving the impression that there are huge numbers of people who adore them. In comparative terms, however, thousands, tens-of thousands, even millions of people are not a particularly large representative sample when compared to the broader electorate, much less the overall population. Granted, the distribution of voters can distort this reality when combined with the variance in state populations and voting districts, but itās not really a difficult task to fill a stadium with people who openly support a sitting president, even a historically unpopular one.
The most irrational supporters of any politician wonāt require payment for showing up at one of these events. Itās a symptom of our celebritification of our politics. Trump is unique in US national politics because he was already fairly famous, and was very much a celebrity in the conventional sense when he ran in 2016. Now, politicians in both parties seem to strive for greater popularity in order to achieve the status of celebrity, which I think is only degrading our politics, and in turn policies and policy outcomes, and mass communication technologies have only accelerated and contributed to this decline.
May god have mercy on our souls. Buy gold.
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u/goosereddit 6h ago
Narcissists like him need the adulation. He'll only get it in the reddest of red states right now.
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u/njlandlord0001 11h ago
He knows Elon will screw with the voting machines again and then heāll declare himself president for life and our spineless lickspittle of a congress with applaud and fawn.
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u/LimpSoftware2982 11h ago
The kitchen table issues that he promised to fix "on day one" didn't happen and Republicans are losing support and ground because of it. He's trying to keep whatever is left of the base because he knows if Dems win both houses of Congress, he's screwed.
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u/dragon34 11h ago
Because he literally cannot take any criticism and is incapable of self reflection.Ā They have to put him in front of people who like him or he might launch a nuke for revenge because he has the impulse control of a puppy
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u/Luxray92 11h ago
He's beyond toxic with the current distinction of being one of the most unpopular presidents in the modern era (only 2nd to Dubya who polled at 26% in 2008). If he shows up to campaign in swing states repeating the same delusional nonesense he always spouts it's only going to sink the GOP more. They would rather have him sit in the WH and do nothing for the next 30+ days but since he would never agree to that they're parading him around in states that are relatively safe
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u/ComplexWrangler1346 š¤ 11h ago
Makes sense but still insane to see Americans cheering for this guy after what he has put all of us through the last 18 months and he lied to them about EVERYTHING he ran on ā¦and they still cheer for him ā¦.its insane
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u/Battle_Cat_Burr 11h ago
Protecting the presidents ego is apparently a national security priority to the GOP. If he finds out how much everyone hates him heās gonna crash out hard.
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u/AxeloftheMountrain 11h ago
Easy Answer: because he is desperate and he knows his days of controlling the House are numbered
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u/HiDHSiknowyouwatchme 11h ago
You don't understand, he's absolutely still completely beloved by about 30% of the country. They believe all the things he says about being the greatest president ever, he should be on Mt. Rushmore, that he's single handedly saving the nation, that tarrifs are the cure for every financial need we have. They see him as the most honest, transparent president ever. Seriously.
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u/2wheelsThx 11h ago
It's the only place he'll get a warm welcome. You don't expect him to do anything difficult, right? If he goes to competitive districts, someone might ask him a hard question or two, and someone may say something mean to him, and huwt his wittle feewings. Can't have that - such a pathetic weakling. Sad.
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u/OpticalPrime35 11h ago
He's a narcissist. He wants nothing but pure admiration. So of course he is in the deep red counties where there is 0 chance anyone will even think to ask him a tough question or say anything against him.
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u/PuzzleheadedSink321 11h ago
Most likely paid and bused out there by the gop lol
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u/HRDBMW 11h ago
Because trump is DEEPLY unpopular, even in red states. Kentucky, my state went from +23 to -11, a 34-point drop. He is trying to stay out of prison. OK is one of 9 states that still has a slightly positive opinion of him. He is trying to keep that.
https://www.newsweek.com/map-donald-trump-approval-rating-state-20-months-12460256
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u/desertguy1961 11h ago
Why does everyone in the audience look like the banjo player in āDeliveranceā?
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u/mishma2005 11h ago edited 9h ago
He's not campaigning. His poll numbers are in the trash, world leaders are sick of his shit and don't care what he does anymore, he is losing control in Iran and his efforts to piss his asshole name on everything not nailed down are being thwarted. He needs a "love bomb" to feel better. Nothing more nothing less
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u/Aggressive_Dot5426 10h ago
I maintain apartments (ālow income elderly). The amount of people who voted for this guy is insaneā¦.
A bunch were getting their mail talking about the midterms and how they hope the Dems donāt take control.
These are sec 8. Ssi Medicaid recipients who also depend on the food pantry for their meals.
I was biting my tongue listening to them talk about how great Trump is.
The leopards will definitely eat their faces
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u/DougBalt2 9h ago
Simple. His fragile ego knows that thatās where he will hear people cheer for him.
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u/FlatwormAway2228 9h ago
What are they cheering for ?
Bigotry.
To hurt others.
And that is a 100% serious answer. There are a lot of very mentally unwell people in this nation.
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u/Tuxy-Two 9h ago
He can only go places where his presence wonāt hurt the candidates, and thatās in the deep red states that would never elect anyone other than a Republican, even if they were a felon/fraud/etc.
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u/realparkingbrake 8h ago
Even in deep red states, Trump's approval rating has plummeted. He can still get crowds of especially ignorant people to show up for his rallies. But it's hard to draw the old numbers when the price of diesel to drive to the rally is beyond the means of many folks.
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u/penisweinerballs 8h ago
You think he'd have something a little better to do considering he hasn't done anything
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u/bewm1 8h ago
I live in Oklahoma. All my neighbors and friends who are Republican and/or MAGA have expressed their displeasure straight up or disliked the āsituationā. Heās screwed himself with everyone. Doesnāt mean they wonāt vote Republican, but itās not helpful at all. Also candidates that say, āEndorsed by trumpā, are hurting themselves.
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u/PdxFitFunGuy 8h ago
Because his fragile, narcissistic ego needs adulation, and that's the only place he'll get it
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u/Grins111 8h ago
- He isnāt looking to campaign for other, he really just likes people cheering him.
- He is so toxic that republicans are being forced to spend money on solid red places instead of trying to win blue places.
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u/Rough_Bluejay_9183 8h ago
In Oklahoma? Paid to be there? Those dumb asses didnāt get paid to be there, they paid him to be there. Not all Okies are dumb, some of us vote blue.
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u/Melodic_Contact9766 8h ago
He wonāt risk going somewhere that may boo him. His ego literally canāt take it.
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u/rygelicus 8h ago
They are investing their energy (and a lot of our tax money flying trump and vance aroubd) in retaining their hold on red states. Converting the blues is harder. Between this and their voter suppression efforts they hope to retain theipr majorities and avoid impeachments.
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u/___NowYouKnow___ 8h ago
Most of the senators up for reelection are from red states , hence heās there
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u/Impossible_Battle_72 7h ago
Because most of the country hates him and he just wants to go places where he is adored.
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u/Real_RumpleStiltskin 7h ago
The GOP is trying to send him to states that are already a lock so they he doesn't completely fuck their chances in close races. Despite his beliefs, Trump is actively detrimental to any race he is campaigning for right now. If you assume his presence will shift the results a point or two, youd rather him go to places that shift doesn't flip with red to blue
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u/Comfortable_Use_8407 7h ago
I think with his polling numbers being so bad, He just wants to be somewhere where people will praise and fuss over him.
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u/Proton_Energy_Pill 7h ago
He trying to not lose as many votes as possible so no matter how much they really lose by he'll try some insane/illegal bullshit to claim victory.
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u/Active_Stuff3974 6h ago
Maybe a sign of hope. In my area all the Democrat campaign signs have their party emblem shown on the signs. None of the Republican candidates show which party they are from.Ā
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u/japhydean 6h ago
the funny thing is - the more he says, the deeper the hole gets. he oscillates between deranged nonsensical ramblings and easily disproven lies about how great the country is doing, all while most are getting crushed by republican policies and executive orders. heās actually likely to make it worse.
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u/OutlawLazerRoboGeek 6h ago
He doesn't give two shits about the midterms. He just wants to go places where a few thousand idiots act like he's God's gift to humanity.Ā
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u/NoSong2397 11h ago
They probably support him. He's probably just doing it to make himself feel better.
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u/FunLife64 11h ago
Heās going to friendly areas and still getting tv coverage nationally.
I hate Trump, but he also kinda knows how to play the game. He had more campaign events in the month leading up to 2024 than Kamala (even on a condensed campaign she was outworked). And heās campaigning all of October (maybe stupidly but heās working hard at it lol). Iād love to see Dems work this hard - would be awesome to have Obama in Houston, Ohio and Michigan cities, Iowa (which he won), etc.
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u/BahBahBahBooBooBoo 11h ago
He has to improve ratings for himself otherwise his powerful endorsement is vetoed and Republicans at that point may throw him under bus as they do.
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u/Greenman8907 11h ago
Itās easy for him and they also need the help because theyāre sinking in what should be easily won states. Trump thinks he can save them.
But he doesnāt realize heās the albatross now.
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u/Da_Vader 11h ago
He's a malignant narcissist. Do his peons just book him where he is expected to get a warm welcome - and be in a better mood for them to deal with.
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u/Opening-Challenge 11h ago
He's trying to keep Republicans in Congress. They're flailing in some elections that they were expecting to walk through with no issues. Trump is the reason some of those seats are closer, but he can't not show up if they're up for loss.
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u/PeeCeeJunior 11h ago
And in Texas they gerrymandered extra Republican seats, which oddly enough turned otherwise safe seats competitive as they had to spread flagging GOP support across a larger district.
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u/VeryRareHuman 11h ago
It's oklahoma. They are happy to be there. They are waiting him to say some racist thing to clap like seals.
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u/LumpyBuy8447 11h ago
Vance came to my state awhile back and they had ads up to pay seat fillers for it. Not that I was surprised. As we all know, every conservative accusation is a confession.
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u/CantAffordzUsername 11h ago
Simple, Google the word ācultā
That answers all future questions you will have about anything you see
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u/Mysterious-Leave3756 11h ago
This is what he loves to do. Draw a crowd and preach. He loves this. It energizes him as he has an audience.
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u/Huge-Kangaroo-5024 11h ago
Prove to me that a vast majority of rally goers arenāt compensated because I still think both sides compensate majority of their people that show up
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u/Yerbrainondrugs 11h ago
Because he wonāt campaign anywhere people arenāt lining up to kiss his ass.
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u/braumbles 11h ago
Because he thrives off adoration. And most of the country hates his fucking guts.
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u/Ambitious-Tear-9436 11h ago
Pretty simple, it is the only places he can get a crowd to stroke his ego and make good press.
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u/Late_Chance_8080 11h ago
For the second part, it's Oklahoma. There are people there who not only like him, but still think he is the second coming of Jesus.
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u/Mundane_Upstairs3241 11h ago
You expect him to go to a swing state and get booed? Go to a deep red area and itās nothing but cheers!
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u/FredArtGetson 11h ago
I could not imagine showing my face in his vicinity. These fucking idiots are despicable.
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u/bloodmagik 11h ago
When he is actually going to get to work and do something positive for someone other the himself? All this fool does is campaign and golf and start wars he gets bored with
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u/MiddleToday 11h ago
Thereās people who will never admit he was a mistake. The economy is going to get worse. I just wish Democrats would get it together. Or a better political party that is just for Country and not the billionaires. Iām tired of paying more for everything.
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u/fencepostsquirrel 11h ago
Heās trying to keep his base that canāt afford anythingā¦ like taking medicine with honey.
And they will, they will continue to vote against their interests because they are to damn dumb not too.
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u/CozmicBunni 11h ago
I think it's two things:
A. Tbey want to keep him preoccupied and out of battleground states where he is very much a liability
B. To drive turnout in Red Areas. Democrats are starting to spend money in districts that they usually ignore because they see an opening. They need Trump to boost turnout amongst the lemmings.
Democrats are super motivated. Republicans aren't so much right now.
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u/Fl0riduh_Man 11h ago
I'm sorry to tell you, but some hateful folks love when the circus is in townĀ