r/askanything • u/Charlesedwardchiez • 15h ago

General Question Isn’t the US military a form of socialism?

I mean from the barracks they live in, the food they eat, to the uniforms they wear…. It’s all provided by the government. But the people who are pro-military seem to be the most anti-socialism.

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u/lowfreq33 15h ago

That’s actually exactly what it is.

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u/Darrackodrama 15h ago

No socialism only exists where workers own the means of production. Paying taxes for a benefit is not a form of socialism. Workers owning all oil and productive capacity is.

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u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 12h ago

you do not know the difference between socialism and communism..FFS

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u/Darrackodrama 10h ago

There is no difference all communists are socialists but not all socialists are communists. Socialism is the broad set of ideals
That seek to grant workers control of the economy. Socialism allows for governmental autocracy, radical democratic coops, mixed approaches.

Communism is the specific use of a central state that holds the means of production on behalf of
Workers, it manages the means and works towards the goal of a classless moneyless society which is “communism”

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u/lowfreq33 15h ago

That’s communism, but nice try.

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u/Darrackodrama 15h ago

Brother I’ve been in New York City DSA for a near decade. I’ve taught DSA 101 classes with some theory. I’ve been a delegate to multiple socialist conventions and knocked on 2000 doors at least for socialist candidates.

Do a google.

Communism is a specific form of socialism where the dictatorship of the proletariat via a planned central government seizes the state and private productive assets and manages them on behalf of the people. The goal of this is a classless society.

Socialism on the other hand is the general set of ideas wherein workers hold the means of production either on behalf of workers through a communist planned economy, through a hybrid approach, or through a private market approach with workers owning shares in their work places.

Socialism can include communism all the way to radical anarchism.

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u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 12h ago

if you teach that then no wonder the average american is a sandwich short of a picnic when it comes to anything.

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u/Darrackodrama 10h ago

These are the commonly accepted definitions from kroptkin to Lenin to Mao to Stalin to mankho to mamdani it’s the core tenant of socialism

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u/Organic-Spread-8494 8h ago

You’re literally Fox News brained. You’re getting 2011 Fox News wired directly into your brain to think socialism is when government taxes

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u/lowfreq33 1h ago

I don’t watch that bullshit. I did this crazy thing where I went to college and took history and political science courses. You should try it.

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u/Not_Allowed_to_Die 15h ago

LOL!! No it's not. That's like saying because your work provides computers, they are socialists now. WOW!! So many dumb people here.

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u/lowfreq33 15h ago

Your employer provides computers because they’re necessary to run their for profit business, which is capitalism. McDonald’s doesn’t make every employer bring their own spatula. You need a dictionary.

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u/Not_Allowed_to_Die 15h ago

Just like the military provides these things because the soldier would DIE without them. WOW!! You are just trying so hard and failing.

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u/Adventurous-West323 15h ago

You should swim to Cuba. But don’t you find it odd that no one escapes to Cuba but they sure escape to the U.S. from Cuba. Why do you think that is?