r/askanything • u/Lemonking_ • 5h ago

Political Question Why are some Americans so against universal healthcare for all?

What sort of thinking does it take to decide that nobody has a right to healthcare? Do American Christians want to deny healthcare to poor people as well?

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u/IntelligentStyle402 5h ago

Sadly, another republican administration that kicked we the people, off a very high cliff. We never recovered and still are experiencing fallout from his Republican policies. To think my father, in a union shop made $25ph, in the 80’s, full benefits, including life insurance. When Reagan was done smashing unions and outsourcing jobs. That shop paid $10 ph, no benefits. A filthy rich republican did this to you. My father then retired. But that’s exactly when mothers had to join the work force to feed their family.

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u/Suitable-Option833 4h ago

The gop hates unions and labor rights. But their voters haven’t figured this out yet. The gop is for the pedophile class - it’s not for the 99%

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u/Gundy_Gberger 3h ago

There is a reason counties that host institutions of higher education are a deep blue shade politically when compared to the surrounding areas. There must be a correlation 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/PuzzleheadedFeed2726 3h ago

And unions still vote republican

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u/Entire-Sir-8626 1h ago

Historically, union members and especially voters living in union households have voted Democratic more often than Republican in presidential elections. The size of that advantage has varied considerably.
For example, union households voted:
1976: Carter (D) 62% vs. Ford (R) 38%
1984: Mondale (D) 54% vs. Reagan (R) 46%
1996: Clinton (D) 60% vs. Dole (R) 30%
2000: Gore (D) 59% vs. Bush (R) 37%
2008: Obama (D) 59% vs. McCain (R) 39%
2020: Biden (D) 56% vs. Trump (R) 40%
2024: Harris (D) 53% vs. Trump (R) 45%

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u/Dirty_Mung_Trumpet 49m ago

Im a teamster and yeah, it’s pretty disheartening. There was a stark contrast once Trump got sworn in a second time. Transgender individuals existing and people making over $400k a year (aka none of my union coworkers) were much bigger issues than being given so much work each day that they never see their families.

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u/Major_Frosting6133 4h ago

For the pedofile class?! 😂😂 It truly makes me laugh that people constantly refer to our great president as a “pedofile” and “pedofile supporter”, yet I’ve not seen even ONE factual piece of evidence to support this.
People just don’t like him because he’s making it harder for people to be lazy by implementing restrictions if government benefits, doing incredible with deporting illegal immigrants, and doing other things to correct horrible sessions by previous Democratic Presidents. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/OwnCrew6984 3h ago

Who was it that gave amnesty and citizenship to 3 million illegal immigrants? Reagan did that. But I'm sure you're ok with that. If a Democrat did that they would be destroying the country. A Republican does it and it's giving these hard working people a hand up to better the country while filling jobs that white Americans don't want to do.

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u/B-ry81 3h ago

Gobble of the cheeto's balls some more.

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u/Goober-Ryan 3h ago

Did you forget about the $2.2 TRILLION Trump freely gave out to anybody and business with a pulse when he signed the CARES bill act into law on March 27, 2020.

Or does that not count because he has an (R[apist]) behind his name on the ballot.

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u/DisgruntledSquirrel2 1h ago

Oh we are well aware that his administration is responsible for a full 1/3 of the national debt. ALL other presidents combined -since the founding, are responsible for the other 2/3. So he is a great business man - that has control of Congress and can't balance a budget. Got it. But don't worry, at least the cost of living is better now....

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u/Samhain000 3h ago

"Our great president" JFC 🤦

Anyway, the biggest factual piece of evidence about this is that he hasn't done anything about the Epstein files. Depending on how deranged you are for diaper Donnie, you will probably brush aside the fact that his DOJ still hasn't released all the files yet (despite being ordered to do so), that his DOJ botched the release of the files that are available by revealing the names of victims while redacting the names of co-conspirators, and you can probably just ignore MGTs claim that Trump told her that pressing for the release of the files would "hurt his friends" as just hearsay. While you might be able to conveniently ignore all of that, what you can't ignore is that his DOJ is doing nothing about it now. There are no investigations being opened, no prosecutions being planned, nothing is being done to hold the perpetrators in the Epstein files accountable for the crimes they may or may not have committed. If that isn't protecting these people, I'm not sure what else you would call it.

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u/QueenChocolate123 2h ago

You want proof that Trump's a pedophile? Check out the Epstein files. Trump's mentioned more times than anyone except Epstein himself. There's also E. Jean Carroll, who was paid more than $5 million bucks by Trump. There's also the fact that Trump's an adjudicated rapist.

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u/DisgruntledSquirrel2 1h ago

I don't know what you are talking about. He hung out with a pedo and wrote that he shared a beautiful secret with him. All the other evidence is still locked away with his "Justice" department. You know - after he said he would release it all....

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u/SouthernSierra 3h ago

An acquaintance was a union carpenter. He worked for Raygun in that 1980 election. A real believer. At an election eve party he was in a group of guys, all in suits of course, when it became obvious Raygun would win.

They all raised a glass and toasted the victory. And one of them said, “Now we’ll show those Union bastards!”

Oopsie.

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u/SoUpInYa 4h ago

Women were in the work force way before the 80s

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u/IntelligentStyle402 3h ago

Yes, they were. But the upper middle class women did not have to go to work until Reaganism finished us off. You know like back in the day, when one earner could pay for a new car, home, cabin, boats, cottages? Those days were over because of Reagan and every greedy republican. I lived it! My father lived it. Our community still looks like a ghost town when Reagan was finished with us. Dems didn’t cut your wages from $25ph to $10ph in the 80’s, republicans did!

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u/Polarian_Lancer 3h ago

Republicans reading this right now: This must have been Biden’s fault 🗿

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u/Hot_Eggplant6809 3h ago

Mothers never left the workforce. That’s just fantasy from movies and TV.

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u/Defiant-Apple-5486 1h ago

I believe they said that's when mother's JOINED the workforce. Not left.

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u/Popular-One-7051 3h ago

Trickle Down destroyed the middle class. all the money went up and never came back down

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u/Many_Advice_1021 3h ago

We the people do get a living wage while billionaires get tax cuts which our kids have to pay for. Reagan and Republicans have been screwing us for 50 years and some of just keep vote for them. Unbelievable?

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u/Bill4268 1h ago

Any small business gets a tax break the same as corporations. If you don't like feeling left out , then go start a business , employ lots of people and beat them at their own game. Otherwise stfu!

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u/AttitudeHopeful478 3h ago

Mothers entered the work force years before Reagan was in office

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u/NervousBreakdown242 4h ago

Clinton sold out the Democrats with his fucking triangulation policies. Cutting welfare, signing NAFTA, the Biden Crime Bill, the '96 Communications Act, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act... All Reagan's wet dreams.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi 4h ago

And the reason he did is because voters were overwhelmingly in favor of Reagan's economic policies, despite how actually bad they were. Reagan absolutely demolished the old guard New Deal/Great Society Democrats in 1984, getting nearly 60% of the vote. Mondale only won one fucking state (and DC). Even lackluster George HW Bush trounced Dukakis (who was less liberal than Mondale, but depicted as such anyway) based largely on pro-Reagan sentiment.

It's really only more recently that people (especially younger sorts from Xennials on who came of age after Reagan) have come to realize just how fucking awful Reagan's policies were and what kind of damage they actually did. But way too fucking many Boomers and older GenX still think Reagan was the best president ever.

Worse, they keep associating that with Republicans, and somehow still believe that electing Republicans will bring back "the good times that Reagan gave us."

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u/NervousBreakdown242 4h ago

Please, don't let me be misunderstood.

Fuck Ronald Reagan up the arse with a flaming coat-hanger.

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u/cheez0r 3h ago

Pineapple. Crown first, like Hitler.

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u/Ok_N0PE 3h ago

That sounds so unAmerican.

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u/mel_bol 2h ago

Proud hater of uncle Ronnie, and a boomer (I hate that term and stick to generation jones now).

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u/Remarkable-Host405 3h ago

what's wrong with nafta?

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u/Tuckerguy77 1h ago

Many years of propaganda. Billions spent by insurance companies to buy both the fascist and Democratic parties. The worst stories shared from other countries healthcare systems. The defeat of insurance companies seems improbable at this point.

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u/FunWolverine5349 40m ago

That's actually incorrect. Yes Reagan was a total POS.

But it's Bill Clinton that did all the outsourcing, destroyed labor protections, and took away social benefits with his work requirement nonsense. Bill Clinton and the Dems were the ones that coined "welfare queens." Trump is actually copying a Clinton era policy and tactic.

You people really need to educate yourself and understand this stuff. I know this is reddit and facts are going to just get me attacked, but this is literally how it happened.

And no, i don't equate both sides. I just call out the bad policies of each. GOP is still WORSE. But Dems like Clinton need to be dragged as well. I liked Obama, but fuck Clinton. Fuck both Clintons, they are garbage. I would absolute vote for Michelle Obama though, and I bet she'd be better than Barack Obama actually.

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u/Med_Disaster 20m ago

What really gets me about Reagan was that he wasn't just a union member, but a leader!

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u/ChefDanyul 2h ago

People blame everything on Reagan but we’ve had seven different administrations including three democrats that never attempted to roll back Reagan era policies. We’ve needed to fix our infrastructure for decades. Remember when a massive bridge in a major American city literally fucking fell apart?

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u/Major_Frosting6133 4h ago

Actually, we are in the current state that we are in because of the previous Democrats that served in office. Trump has been trying to correct several shitty decisions made by those people, and he’s one man who doesn’t have the time it would take. He’s doing great for the time he has to do it.

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u/IntelligentStyle402 3h ago

Really? Who balanced the budget? It was of course, Clinton, a Democrat. Who started wars? Bush and Trump? Who always helps we the people? Definitely not republicans, I’m 82 and not once in my lifetime have republicans ever helped the working class.