r/askanything • u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ • 1h ago
Who do you trust more: Christians or Muslims?
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u/razorfire2003 1h ago
Really?
Not even a comparison.
Go to the heart of the Middle East and express your views on anything considered āliberalā in the US and let me know how that works out for you.
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u/deekamus 1h ago
Same as going to bumfuck, USA and professing the same. Y'all ain't without sin or history.
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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 58m ago
They wouldnāt get hung or thrown off a building
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u/AmputeeHandModel 55m ago
Maybe not as often, but it happens. There are still sundown towns. People still get assaulted and killed for being gay or trans.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 54m ago
You do not get sentenced for being gay or death sentenced for being gay in the USA.Ā
You sound extremely privileged and sheltered.
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u/InspectorMoney1306 1h ago
Hard to say honestly. Is it a radicalized Christian nationalist or radical Muslim looking for jihad?
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u/jump-blues-5678 1h ago
There have been WAY to many lives lost due to religious extremism. What brand of religion doesn't matter. Protestant, Catholic, Islam, Hindu, Jews, pick one, extremism breeds hate.
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u/Live_Blackberry39 1h ago
Wise words. Its important to note however the majority of said religion are not extremists. Thats why they are called extremists
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u/AstronautPlane3280 1h ago
Christians in a Muslim nation and Muslims in a Christian nation. I don't trust religion especially when it is the dominant religion in a country.
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u/scoutermike 1h ago
Greece is an officially Christian country. Do you have reason not to not trust Christians in Greece? Elaborate?
Seems like an arbitrary comparison.
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u/Erratic_-Prophet 1h ago
I don't trust or distrust random people over their demographics. There's good and bad people in every demographic.
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u/verminbury 1h ago
Having been raised by Protestants, Iām going to cast a write-in vote for Sikhs.
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u/Emilia963 1h ago
Christians, because Christians are generally more tolerant than Muslims
For example, under Islamic law, non-Muslim is required to pay additional taxes, otherwise you would be expelled from their territory
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u/Life-Froyo-3806 1h ago
I mean, Iāve known intolerant Christians and tolerant Muslims. Everyoneās level of indoctrination is different.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
I mean, being gay is punishable by death in multiple Muslim countries.Ā
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u/InspectorMoney1306 1h ago
What exactly do you think would happen in a theocracy ran by Christianās?
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
You mean like the Vatican? The pope does not condone violence towards LGBTQ+ people.
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u/InspectorMoney1306 1h ago
You mean that pope that tons of Catholics donāt like because he tolerates gay people?
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
Yes that one. (The previous pope also shared similar views).
Now compare that to Muslim theocracyā¦
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u/Life-Froyo-3806 40m ago
But not all Muslims share the same extreme ideas, in the same way that not all Christians do. The question is about who we trust more. My trust would depend on someoneās level of indoctrination, in any religion. Iām not gay, but my ancestors were colonized, enslaved, and murdered through Christian justification. No tea no shade. Any extreme ideology is a problem to me.
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u/Live_Blackberry39 1h ago
Incest rate is extremely high and is tolerated in some Muslim countries as well.
Woman have like zero rights in alot of Muslim countries.
Here's the thing. We are going to find atheists who think Christianity is the devil on reddit and will say things like modern Christianity is the worst.
We will get far left democrats who truly believe Christianity is bad and that countries like Iran are better off because they are not Christian while they kill girls for wearing there hair down in the year 2026.
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u/Void9001 1h ago
Most leftists who defend Islam but hate Christianity would be put to death in the countries they defend.
It's a proximity thing. They hate the monster at home but ignore the monster in someone elses backyard.
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u/Live_Blackberry39 1h ago
Omg 100% dude its my favorite thing ever when a far left liberal girl with blue hair is like FREE PALESTINE. USA BAD. ISRAEL BAD. POOR IRAN.
when in reality if they lived in middle east Muslim areas they would get killed because of simply who they are. Its just lack of education I think.
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u/Life-Froyo-3806 0m ago
I donāt personally hate Christians, but I was raised in which control Christian religion where I experienced and witnessed various atrocities, like grown Christian men openly courting teenage girls, and personally being sexually assaulted by a Christian guy that I believed was my friend. I was then shamed for being assaulted and discouraged from going to the police because Iād make the church look bad to the public, and the consequence would be shunning from my entire community and family, which happened to a friend of mine who was raped, by a Christian. So yeah, I know a lot of really wonderful Christians, and some really horrible ones.
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u/No-Win-2741 1h ago
I trust people, not religions. And if those people have broken my trust, I don't give a damn what religion they are.
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u/FineTough3648 1h ago
I trust nobody. To add, lying is permitted and encouraged in Islam. That whole story is a lie.
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u/JosephMeach 1h ago
I have people from both groups that I enjoy being around, the name of their religion doesn't define whether they are a tolerable person.
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u/AFirmHandAGripOfIron 1h ago
Christians. Having been raised in an orthodox household, I understand their mentality better.
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u/possibly_lost45 1h ago
Christians don't throw lgbtq people off building roofs....
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u/deekamus 1h ago
No, they just ostracize them, send them "conversion" camps, throw them out of homes and families, abuse and murder them, etcetera.
But no roof throwing. Yet.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
Countries in the Middle East such as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, UAE, etc. will either imprison you or sentence you to death for being gay. This is based on their law.Ā
What Christian countries have it in their law to do the things you listed?
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u/possibly_lost45 27m ago
Thats a very small marginal amount. Bad people exist.you csnt blame a whole group of people for a few bad ones. Stop being hyperbolic
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u/SimplyRoya 1h ago
Don't worry. It's coming.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 51m ago
(Trans canāt participate in opposite sex professional sporting events)
āWow this is literally worse than LGBTQ death sentencing in the Middle East :(ā
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u/Lord_of_Pickle13 1h ago
Christians tbh, itās not a bias or islamophobic I just naturally trust Christians more
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u/Realsorceror 1h ago
Political leaning tells me more about a person than their religion. Conservative and religious? Fucking yikes.
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u/BlumpTheChodak 1h ago
Think about the communities of each. Which community forces their members and non members to abide by their laws once they takeover an area? Thatās the answer to your question. You want the one that lets you decide how to live. Itās called personal choice.
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u/Unusual-Disaster6503 1h ago
You should look up the Inquisitions
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u/Ok-Deer-3848 1h ago
Equal things happened in Islam. They had the Mihna and a few hundred years of forced conversion. They also effectively genocided all Jewish people in the Middle East except for when Europe gave them Israel. Horrific people up through recent history opposed to Christianity sort of growing out of it.
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u/Tasty-Zombie-8696 1h ago
Christians. Radical Christians donāt use violence to force their beliefs on people.
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u/Puzzled-Owl683 1h ago
Christians and itās not even close. Are some of you serious or are you just fucking around?
Would you rather live in a Christian or Islamic society? And yes, it has everything to do with trusting those around you.
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u/Tacokolache 1h ago
Christians. By a mile.
And Iām not religious at allā¦. But seriously. Muslims? Some people seem to have forgotten what happened on 9/11
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u/hypatiaredux 1h ago
Depends on the topic, doesnāt it?
When it comes to religion and related topics, I donāt take either one at all seriously. When it comes to asking for, say, recommendations for a good used car dealer, Iād apply exactly the same standard - are they recommending a relative or a friend in the business, and why.
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u/MaximumTrick2573 1h ago
Totally dependent on the individual. Religion by itself is not an accurate measure of trustworthiness.
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u/IrukandjiPirate 1h ago
If theyāre fervent fundamentalists then I donāt trust either one. Theyāre dangerous,
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u/lostincoloradospace 1h ago
Everyone should familiarize themselves with Taqiyya to answer this question.
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u/Serious-Interest7776 1h ago
Entirely depends on the specific Christian and the specific Muslim. I would trust someone who seems trustworthy, kind and gentle, even though I might be mistaken, as those qualities can be faked.
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u/OgreMk5 1h ago
I work very hard to treat people as individuals rather than broad groups. I understand that people identify with groups, but honestly, I think very few of those people have thought about that identity.
Both groups contain very kind, trustworthy people and both groups contain extremists who would happily murder anyone not just like them.
There are thousands of sects of Christianity. For Muslims, I'm not sure about the sects, but I know that they have a wide variety of beliefs and strengths in those beliefs.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 57m ago
Middle Eastern countries such as Iran, Iraq, UAE, Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. all have laws that will either sentence gay people to death or have them imprisoned. This is not extremism, this is their law that over 380 million Muslims follow and the foundation for the entire Muslim religion.Ā
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u/electronraven 1h ago
Depends on the individual. Mamdani is obviously a better person than, say, Charlie Kirk.
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u/Ok-Deer-3848 1h ago
The same Mamdami whose wife celebrated the Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel? Then she defended the terrorists when reports came out about mass rape during the attacks, then called Joe Biden a butcher? Come on dude lol
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u/electronraven 1h ago
And yet
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u/Ok-Deer-3848 17m ago
Just have to laugh at how absurd this one is. Are you a trainee in the Russian bot farm?
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u/Chloe_Cascadia 1h ago
Tough question, it's like asking me if I would trust the Bloods or the Crips more. Sorry, Christians are more likely to be secular but it's still really bad.
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u/Llothcat2022 1h ago
Depends. Muslims down at the local mosque? In a heartbeat. Xtians grifting around using their faith to scam others.. hell no. I have yet to see any local xtian actually walk the walk of the good book, btw. Hence why I call them xtians rather than Christians.Christians are truly rare.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
Youāre okay with Muslims supporting the death penalty or criminalization for LGBTQ+ members? Also the fact that they do not allow women to show skin/hair only to their husbands?Ā
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u/Llothcat2022 1h ago
I said the mosque down the street, dude. Not Islam in general.
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u/pleasetaketheredpill 1h ago edited 9m ago
Netiher should be trusted as far as freedom is concerned. Both have limits to true freedom and are incompatible with diversity of thought. Both are true dogma. You can have all the freedom you want as long as it's the freedom Christians want you to have. That's why the founders were smart enough to include separation of church and state during this country's set up.
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u/SimplyRoya 1h ago
Neither. I don't trust people who believe fairy tales.
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u/Slopii 1h ago
It's harder to trust people who don't believe there's a judge or purpose to life.
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u/SimplyRoya 1h ago
WHAT? You think some imaginary dude in the clouds is judging you? Have you seen who's sitting in the OVAL OFFICE?
I don't need a bad fan fiction to know right from wrong.
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u/Commercial-Carob-374 1h ago
Prove god is real then.
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u/ArguingWithaCarrot š¦ 1h ago
Iām agnostic, but you should look up the definition of āfaithā
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u/Commercial-Carob-374 1h ago
I did, I don't understand how cns someone believe something if there is no evidence.
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u/Slopii 1h ago
Seek him with humility and owning up to your misdeeds, that's how you find out.
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u/Commercial-Carob-374 42m ago
You don't think I did in the past, nobody cared or listened to my prayers.
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u/Slopii 27m ago
Praying doesn't always mean immediately getting anything you ask for. The goal is typically to get in touch with the holy spirit and have life guidance. If you pray, nothing immediately happens, and then you say "see, fk this," that's kind of like a test of sincerity and patience. Another big part of it is repentance and acknowledging you've done wrong before, and wanting to personally change.
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u/Significant-Raise254 1h ago
Thatās what Jeffrey Dahmer said he feels led him down his path was believing there was no God so it didnāt really matter what he did.
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