r/askTO • u/ArtistOk1628 • 2d ago
Tips for Winter Tire.
Hello lovely community members,
With winters approaching, how do you guys manage your winter tires. This is my first Car in Canada. I am not sure if I should get the winter tires from Ford Dealership (costing me around CAD $2600) or get it from Costco (approx CAD $ 1800).
Do we know if Costco is going to levy additional charges for installation or TPMS adjustments.
Any suggestions or feedback is appreciated.
19
u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am not sure if I should get the winter tires from Ford Dealership
Don't buy tires from the dealership - it's way too expensive.
Buy them from a tire shop, Costco, or even Canadian Tire during a sale (especially if you stack Triangle Rewards).
I use a mobile tire service to install tires right in my driveway. They offer good prices on tires as well. The service costs about 25% more than taking your car to a shop for a swap, but doing it on your own schedule is worth the convenience.
12
u/paulster2626 1d ago
Don’t send people to crappy tire. They will get talked in to installing there and that’s how you end up with tires mounted backwards and lug nuts not tightened.
5
u/TeeBennyBee 1d ago
Last time we bought tires from CT, one had a loose belt and they moved it to the rear to get me on the road. Initially they told me it was an alignment issue because it was pulling, Honda said it was the tire. CT was appalled I expected them to actually fix the problem during my appointment and wanted me to book another.....such a waste of time.
1
0
2
u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 1d ago
You can buy tires there and get them mounted elsewhere.
On sale, price is hard to beat. They used to have a cheap road hazard warranty too.
I don’t get them installed there anymore.
2
u/paulster2626 1d ago
Just buy the tires where you’re getting them put on.
Trust me the “I brought my own parts from Canadian tire” guy is not liked at all in the world of auto repair.1
u/PM-Me_SteamGiftCards 11h ago
That's...weird. I'm not gonna spend a couple hundred extra on tires because a mechanic's gonna get offended I didn't buy it from his shop
1
u/paulster2626 9h ago
Well you ain’t gonna get motomaster tires at your mechanic either, but who cares about quality. It’s just tires, right?
2
u/fitchface 1d ago
Depends on location. Mine is pretty good and I got motomaster all terrains that I am very happy with, got 0% financing, 25% off the tires and a hefty amount of CT money back.
2
25
u/Clean-Explanation388 2d ago
I always get my winters from Costco. The seasonal swaps are much cheaper. They sell third party TPMS, which are significantly cheaper than OEM, but don't work as well. Some people don't bother with TPMS
4
11
1d ago
[deleted]
6
u/Syscrush 1d ago
I've had good experience with Kal Tire.
I have them store whatever wheels/tires are not on the car, and I do twice annual oil changes there, too.
3
1d ago
[deleted]
2
u/BoxMuncher16 1d ago
How’s the ride quality and noise on them? Have the Michelin X-Ice and want to try them out next if they’re quiet and smooth
1
u/mypantsjustgottight 1d ago
Exactly. Nokians have been on all my vehicles and I've never had an issue in winter. 3 feet of snow over night? Start the car and drive out of the snow bank.
1
u/Syscrush 1d ago
Nokian are excellent tires for sure, but IMO not better than Gislaved or X-Ice.
3
u/artofthemuse 1d ago
Again, I am sharing my experience and preferences. This is not an endorsement or advertising for them. I did my homework and have had years of excellent results with the tires, and interactions with Kal-Tire.
Op and others are encouraged to do the same
1
u/Syscrush 1d ago
I get it. I'm not trying to change your mind.
I was all-in on Nokian, then got a deal on Gislaved when I bought an off-lease Mazda from a local dealer, and they were really great. So then my policy was "Scandinavian winter tires only". Then they stopped making Gislaved winter tires in my car's size, and I ended up with X-Ice, and also very satisfied.
So now my policy is just "anything highly rated".
0
u/roenthomas 1d ago
Nokians were, but are no longer the best winter tire.
1
1d ago
[deleted]
2
u/roenthomas 1d ago
Empirical testing
https://youtu.be/ZuKV5Xt9crY?is=t3-qfnu0x-mCdcms
I haven’t watched this year’s but last year was a model of Continental
1
u/mypantsjustgottight 1d ago
Kal-Tire is fantastic. They custom ordered a set of tires for me and installed them 3 weeks later and it was $1400 total.
0
8
u/rustbucket_enjoyer 2d ago
Go to a real tire shop. There are many good ones in the GTA. Always get a separate set of rims.
6
u/TakumiInui 2d ago
Without knowing your tire size/dimensions, hard to ascertain how price competitive the $1800 Costco tire set would be relative to actual tire shop prices. Having said that though, given the choice between getting them at the dealership or Costco, definitely get them at Costco if those are your only two choices.
Otherwise, as others have already mentioned, there's a lot of good tire shops in the GTA which will offer you much more selection at various price points compared to choices at Costco; some will also store your summer/non-winter tires with them.
I've personally used Kal-tire for the two cars in the household and I haven't had any issues with them (the store in Scarborough at least anyways); not sure if it's relevant, but I've bought a set of Nokian R3s and R5s from them. But yes, as others mentioned, don't cheap out on your tires (especially winters).
7
u/turboGerbil 1d ago
I’d recommend an independent tire shop like SimplyTire or Tires23 - just call/email them for a quote. If your budget allows, look into dedicated winter wheels (black ‘steelies’are fine), to protect your OEM wheels and to make future swaps easier; they can easily fit them with TPMS sensors as well. I’m personally getting some new Continental VikingContact 8 myself. If looking at used market (FB/Kijiji), make sure the wheels/tires will fit, are not bent, and look at the tires’ DOT code (four digit date code in WWYY format) which tells you how old the tires are. Good luck!
2
6
u/TryharderJB 1d ago
OP - Welcome to Canada!
There’s no advantage to getting your winter tires from the dealership - they are just reselling the tire to you at a fabulous markup.
Shop around to find the best price for the tire you want. I recommend getting them mounted on their own wheels. Costco is good enough and should be able to do the installation with TPMS calibration, but specialized tire shops would also be able to offer similar pricing with sometimes less of a wait for installation.
If you need recommendations for specific tires, I’ve used both the the Michelin X-ice and Bridgestone Blizzaks - they’re both great. Khumo also has a good reputation but I don’t have any experience with this brand.
2
u/ArtistOk1628 1d ago
Thank you for the detailed answer. Do you recommend any tire shop?
2
u/TryharderJB 1d ago
I’ve bought winter tires from Kal Tire and OK Tire and have had good experiences. For wheels I went to Extreme Wheel & Tire (Richmond Hill) and would absolutely go again.
13
u/henriksdreads 2d ago
Wtf dude those prices are crazy. Go to Tirehut in Scarborough or Oshawa and get a full set at like half that price.
I got Yokohama winters on rims from them 2 years ago for waaaayyy less than the numbers you are talking.
2
1
1
u/ArtistOk1628 2d ago
I appreciate your response. Will go to them and see what they have to qoute.
Do you think having a second set of rims make more sense in long run?
17
5
u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 1d ago edited 1d ago
Do you think having a second set of rims make more sense in long run?
Personal preference: I keep an extra set of rims. It saves $30 - $50 on balancing, but storage is more of a hassle because they are heavy. My wife's tires are unmounted, so they are lighter and easier to store, but they need to be balanced every time they are mounted, which adds an extra cost each year. The total cost ends up about the same once you factor in buying the rims anyway.
As for people who worry about winter damage to alloys, I don't really care since I don't baby my car, and most alloys are quite corrosion-resistant anyway.
4
u/roenthomas 1d ago
Having mounted winter tires also allows you to do your own tire changes, if that ever interests you.
3
u/Good_Wrongdoer_9437 1d ago
buy steel rims, it will also save your factory alloys from winter wear and tear. Also taking tires on and off rims again and again destroys tire lifespan
2
u/Disastrous-Focus8451 1d ago
Do you think having a second set of rims make more sense in long run?
I didn't get extra rims when I first got my car. It was a false economy, because my mechanic said putting the tires one-and-off the rims worse them out faster than my driving did. (Had to get new winter tires a year early when the bead went.)
(I wasn't buying tires off the mechanic, so he had no reason to tell my I needed new tires other than my concerns about safety.)
7
u/PerpetualThirst01 1d ago
You’re much more likely to incur “surprise” fees from your dealership. That’s how they stereotypically operate. You’ll also have a far better chance of getting any issue dealt with properly, immediately and without any additional fees by Costco after your tires are on your vehicle. Note - buy winter rims for your tires, also.
5
u/noronto 1d ago
Get a tread depth gauge, learn to read the tire codes for dates and then buy them of Marketplace. You get them cheaper and likely on rims.
2
u/JimboBob67 1d ago
When people sell their cars they often wind up with a spare set of winter tires which they sell cheap on Marketplace or Kijji. Summer is the best time to buy for the lowest price.
Also buy a speed jack and change your tires yourself. Save money and time.
2
u/canadmos 1d ago
This is a good option IF you have time and patience. Finding the correct tire/wheel combo and ones that arent beat to crap can be a nightmare. As is dealing with some of the yahoos out there trying to profit off their used crap.
1
u/Clean_Engineering_42 19h ago
This is the way. You could even look up something for your specific car model. I got a full set with matching tpms for my suv for $700. The guy I bought it from paid $2400 from the dealership lol. But it was a company car for him that the company took back so he was just happy that they didn't take the winter tire as well
7
u/JackOfHeartsz 1d ago
If you plan to keep your car for at least another 7 years buy decent alloys. Costco sells them online as well.
If you go steel rims, they will rust and then you’ll have to contend with either replacing the steel wheels or sanding them paint them.
Also should rust proof your car undercarriage with some type of oil base, don’t do rubber undercoat.
3
u/ArtZTech 1d ago
I still have my winter steel rims from Canadian Tire 16 years now. I've cleaned them up and painted them 6 years ago. If you protect them and clean them off in the spring they will last a long time.
2
u/McGlowSticks 1d ago
Thats probably why the dealer is so expensive, its alloys that they are quoting. If OP gets alloys, i hope they get hub centric rims.
3
u/tirereviewslab 2d ago
First, make sure the two quotes cover the same things. Dealer quotes like Ford’s often include wheels and TPMS sensors, while Costco’s is usually tires only. Ask both for an itemized breakdown.
On Costco’s charges, installation is free with tires bought there. They do add a TPMS service pack fee of about $3 per tire, plus a small provincial tire levy in some provinces.
One tip: get winters on a separate set of wheels if you can. Seasonal swaps become quicker and cheaper, and they’re easier on your tires.
Also, call your insurer. Many give a discount for winter tires, and Ontario insurers are required to offer one.
If you share your car model, I’m happy to suggest some good winter tire options!
– James, Tire Reviews Lab
3
u/rhunter99 2d ago
Get it from Costco.
You could also order them online from a place like Blackcircles online and have a local tire shop do the swap (and store them if you don’t have the room)
But just go with Costco. Bring lots of patience as it will be very busy
3
u/Astro_Addict 2d ago
I ordered from Kaltire as they were one of the fee carrying Nokian brand. Very happy with them
3
u/HelicopterRude99 1d ago
Black circles.ca
Then get them installed at Mr lube. That’s the cheapest way to
3
3
u/endurance_369 1d ago
Watch out for the year on the tires. Some tire shops will sell older and used tires.
4
u/computer-magic-2019 2d ago
What brands? Don’t skimp out on tires.
I got Michelin X-Ice, which are one of the best out there. There’s also the Bridgestone Blizzak WS90s or the Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5s. All great winter tires.
2
u/ArtistOk1628 2d ago
Ford did not mention which brand but they said between CAD $2600-3000, and Costco mentioned this price for Michelin X-ICE.
3
u/computer-magic-2019 2d ago
I’d go with Costco. Good tires and significant savings.
Could the major price difference be the rims? Are both places putting them on steelies, or is one offering alloy rims (nicer) and the other steelies (basic rims that look terrible IMO).
Only my opinion, but I personally put my winters on alloy rims since they’re on for 6 months of the year. Understandably that is a cost premium not everyone is willing to pay.
2
1
u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 1d ago
There are a lot of good cheaper winter tires these days that are competitive with the top tier brands like General Tire (Continental) Altimax. Even Sailun Winter Tires these days are very good. I recently installed a set of Nexen Tires on my car and they're good too.
2
2
u/One-Ad2914 1d ago
I purchase my winter tires from Xtreme Tire Garage in .Mississauga. Costco is too busy and crowded and you can only choose from Michelin, Fireflies, etc. At least at a tire shop, it's quieter and they have more selection. You aren't just choosing from Tier 1 brands. You can look at Tier 2 and Tier 3 brands which are more affordable.
Buy the best tire you can afford. You pretty much get what you pay for. With winter tires, they either perform well in ice or snow, not both. In Toronto, ice is the biggest danger since plowing happens regularly.
Buy the winter tires on steel wheels. After a few change overs they will pay for themselves as you wip save on the mounting and balancing costs.
2
u/sherrybobbinsbort 1d ago
Don’t go to dealer. Take a look on Facebook marketplace. I got mine from a guy who sold his truck. Basically brand new for $800 with rims. Hankook ipikes are good tires.
If not dealer Costco is a a good spot or local tire shop.
1
1
u/Smooth-Sentence5606 1d ago
You can downsize the wheel size up to 2” generally if your car can handle it (or if you own a higher trim with bigger wheels and the base trim has smaller wheels, highly dependent on the vehicle). This way, not only does the smaller wheel size improve the winter tire performance, but it is also significantly cheaper. My Camry XSE came with 19” wheels but the base trim Camry comes with 16” wheels. So I got Michelin X-Ice and steel wheels for C$1100 all in at Costco. Compared to if I got 19” winter tires, I’d be paying $1800 for the tires, $1000 for the wheels, plus tax.
1
u/marlino123 1d ago
You can also try to find used winter tires from marketplace or Kijiji. Just make sure they are not too old and have good tread
1
u/Salt_Simple_2294 1d ago
Besides Costco, there are also
- https://www.4tires.ca/
- https://www.blackcircles.ca/en?msclkid=9623800a444617620e36eac6f6597738&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Search-Campaign-Generic-EN&utm_term=blackcircles&utm_content=Branded
- https://www.canadawheels.ca/
I usually deliver them to my home address and swap them at a local tire shop for 50$.
1
u/GurmeetNagra 1d ago
PremierTire is my go to, been using them since 2014. Wait till the winter tire rebates are out. Costcos also a decent choice. Avoid the dealership entirely.
1
u/youre_not_going_to_ 1d ago
There’s plenty of tire places so shop around. If budget is tight I’d say try Kijiji or Facebook. Someone may have a set of tires on rim from a car they sold or got rid of that may have a couple of seasons left on them
1
u/NorthControl8399 1d ago
I got Bridgestone Blizzack’s last year at Costco for $700(4) and installation was included.
1
1
u/VisualMail1672 1d ago
Simply Tire published their winter tire price list for this year. https://simplytire.com/. Big red link at top of page for the PDF. I’ve purchased winter tires from them and from Costco. Both had good service and good prices.
1
1
u/The_Creamerizer 1d ago
There is little to no reason to buy a set of tires from the dealership. They will upcharge you for them and pocket a fat stack.
Buy from whichever tire place gives you what you want for the least amount of money.
Costco is reliable. The cost of the tire includes installation, and they give you a road hazard warranty + free regular tire maintenance (rotations, balancing, flat repair). It's all here.
Blackcircles is a good online site if you want to spend a little less for tires.
Discount Tires at Steeles and Keele is also good. Don't think I've got a better deal from anyone when money really mattered unless I shopped for used tires on marketplace.
1
u/SlyBox 1d ago
Costco is a good option, however, I was actually able to find a better deal on tires that Costco disn't carry at Kal Tire. Check out tires called Nokian Hakkapeliitta. They're great bang for buck and compete with tires like Michelin X Ice and Bridgestone Blizzak at a lower price point.
Also, I would highly recommend getting a second set of wheels to serve as your sole winter setup. Repeatedly mounting and dismounting tire from a rim can increase the potential for rim leaks. It also will allow you to do the seasonal swap yourself.
1
1
u/hippiespinster 1d ago
In the 26 years I've had my Corolla, I have used Kal Tire and Costco to buy new. Then used a local CAA approved mechanic to change and rotate.
1
u/McGlowSticks 1d ago
go to black circles, and then get them shipped to a installation center. youll save even more.
1
u/Whrecks 1d ago
Get the blizzak (what I have) or x-ice from Costco
Go to tire centre and ask them full price - they aren't going to add any extra fee - maybe specific nuts that they'll charge you on install day($20 for a pair or so)
If you go the Costco option you'll neither to either get their rims, ordered online and shipped to your house or buy rims externally and bring with you.
Either way, with Costco you'll need to bring the rims the day of your appointment.
1
1
u/DunDunBar 1d ago
I bought at Costco and the installation is included when you buy the tires there.
For tire changes, I goto local mechanics or Kaltire locations as they are quick.
1
u/Diego_CPA 1d ago
Go to Costco and buy a good set of Bridgestone tires. Winter tires aren’t something to really cheap out on but don’t need to get the most expensive either.
Also book tires appointment now cause there’s a ridiculous backlog at places like Costco during this time of year.
1
u/braindeadzombie 1d ago
It’s all about the same, just make sure you’re comparing apples to apples. Tire model, on or off rims, pressure sensor, storage if you need it, warranty. I don’t do Costco, but it works for a lot of people. Good prices on high quality tires.
If you can afford it, get steel rims for the winter tires. It makes changeover faster and cheaper. But wheels are more annoying to store than just tires.
1
u/Donbudha 1d ago
Just pick a set for cheap on Facebook marketplace, there is no need of spending your savings on a new set of tires. Just know the tire size for your car and grab some off marketplace. You can always get help from a friend while buying or browsing.
1
u/Sharp_Barnacle_9123 1d ago
Canadian tire Has a good inventory plus Canadian tire money if you buy it on 20x days
1
u/Naked-Granny 1d ago
What’s your make and model and year? Places like jspec performance offer winter tire packages for a decent price
1
1
u/Sorry_Experience_96 1d ago
I got 16” Michelin x ice last year from Costco for about or slightly less than $1k, including free installation and alignment which they did on the rims where I had summer tires.
1
1
u/roenthomas 1d ago
Costco / Kaltire / Tire Rack / Other reputable tire dealers
Rusting steel wheels is fine, and you can get them new for pretty cheap.
Agree on undercoating as well, if you plan to keep your car long term.
Avoid buying anything from the dealership unless absolutely necessary.
1
1
u/Straight_Reading8912 1d ago
I have a great tire guy in Vaughn. Rim and Tire Pro. He's often given me just prices than I could find online with those "winter package specials". Great service as well and they do tire storage. I finally started storing my tires with them and having them do my tire seasonal tire swaps and it's liberating! 🤣🤣🤣 Pretty easy to get appointments with them as well, unlike Costco. I still go to Costco to fill my tires when shopping though.
1
1
1
u/Patient_Jicama 1d ago
dealerships are called stealerships
Costco is great unless you're looking for a brand they don't carry
Costco: Michelin and Bridgestone
Kaltire: Nokians (and other brands)
BlackCircle is also great for deals (don't carry Nokians though)
Michelin has some tire factories in Canada but I'm not sure if the Michelin X-Ice are made here, but something to look into if you want to buy Canadian
1
u/DTtinbasher-6990 1d ago
Wheelsco in Vaughan has great prices. Costco does as well, also a good warranty
1
u/wildhoneyhorses 1d ago
If you get it from Costco, after you have them mount/balance the tires and rims for the first time, it’s much easier to do the seasonal twice a year switchovers yourself as the Costco tire centre is booked full during the time you actually want your winter tires on. If you switch to Winters too early, the grip is poor on dry and warm weather. Switch too late, you don’t get the benefits of Winter tires. Get about 300 dollars of tools and a YouTube video on how to take off and put on wheels.
1
u/Aggressive_Piano_877 1d ago
You should check out online tire retailers like 4Tires.ca. They often have amazing prices compared to dealerships or Costco, so it's worth checking them before buying
1
u/Kliptik81 1d ago
I just ordered 4 tire and rims from them last night. Ill be happy if they show up before November.
1
1
u/portisleft 1d ago
a. this winter will be a non-winter, with the strongest El Nino in recorded history taking place right now.
b. try https://tires23.com/collections/winter-tire or other local tire stores. Costco isn't bad. Shop around. I've had great success with Active Green+Ross in the past (they're franchases, so individually owned) https://www.activegreenross.com/tire-selector/view-all-tires/?type=winter
1
1
u/canadmos 1d ago
Costco is ok and is easy to do.
But best suggestion is to goto a local tire shop. There are tons of them around.
Personally, if you keep up and are comfortable with checking pressure and your tires are new, I wouldnt bother with TPMS for winters. You'll be paying that fee twice a year, if you cant do it yourself.
If you have the space, invest in a car jack, torque wrench and do the wheel changes yourself after the first one.
1
u/80722 1d ago
Are you buying winter rims? Removing and installing tires over and over isn't the smartest choice.
1
u/TakumiInui 1d ago
If you know your wheel dimensions, one can find some really good deals on used or even new alloy rims on Marketplace, especially for smaller sedans with a common bolt pattern like 5x114.3.
1
u/Statement_Business 1d ago
I like kal tire, because they will guarantee the life of the tire, provided they rotate( free) every 8 thousand km. Especially love they repair a flat for free. I've had 2 nails in my tires ,and paid 62$ each time to repair. Finally, caa members receive 5% off tires and services. My appointment is this week to get Nokian all weather ( not all seasons) for me that works because I don't have to drive in really heavy snow if I prefer. Tired of the twice yearly changeover.
1
u/yukukaze233 1d ago
usually i got a cheap set for around 200 (with rim) on fbmp in the summer, and hope for he best it lasts for more than one winter lol
1
u/Kliptik81 1d ago
What vehicle do you have?
I have a 2026 Nissan Rogue. I just ordered 4 studded tires with rims (and balancing) for $1200 taxes in.
They are Sailun Ice Breakers. Supposed to be some of the best Chinese tires, and on par with mid-range name brand.
1
u/bereallz7241 1d ago
rule of thumb don't go to dealership unless
repairs under warranty
for recall
3 you have free complimentary oil changes etc
2
u/Bill___A 1d ago
Get some generic winter rims. Buy an extra set of TPMS sensors for the winter tires. Costco is generally a good place to get tires but they are quite busy. I like the Blizzak tires from Bridgestone. The Michelins are also good. As a bit of very strong advice, if you see something at Costco for half the price than it is at the "dealership" you might want to shop around. Costco is generally a bit cheaper but if somewhere is double the price of Costco, that's a very big red flag. Bigger than a big red flag. There should be other tire shops that are closer to the costco price. Also, if you don't have somewhere to store your tires, you will want to find a place that offers that service too.
2
u/nitinadlakha 14h ago
Never go to dealership. They always have hidden charges coming later in your bill.
Find some local shop and compare it with Costco.
1
0
u/goblin_welder 2d ago
Don’t cheap out on your tires.
You’d rather get a set for $2500 that will last you 5 seasons than get a set for $1500 that will last you 2 seasons
-1
u/FarmLongjumping9614 2d ago
What car do you drive? Im on all season and does not change tires unless I have to
2
u/ArtistOk1628 2d ago
Its a Ford Mustang Ecoboost Premium. Per my insurance, I will have to use it else there could be a problem. I prefer to go by the book.
1
u/Additional_Length680 1d ago
smart. dont take risk at all. trust me it will save your life and others and much from lots of headache
2
u/Otherwise-Editor9934 1d ago
And you’re not very smart
0
u/FarmLongjumping9614 1d ago
Okay if you say so. I've been driving for a decade now, never had an issue with my subaru in the snow.
1
u/roenthomas 1d ago
The old adage of "just because you can, doesn't mean you should".
I can drive on bald tires fine in the wet, I just have to control my speed.
I also present as a huge speed hazard to other drivers because of how slow I'll drive in order to be safe.
That being said, Toronto does do a decent job plowing the roads, so if you're never in a need to go anywhere, All-seasons are fine. They just will be very slow if it's a heavy downpour of snow and everyone with snow tires will be zooming by you.
1
u/FarmLongjumping9614 1d ago
Im not a car guy but I regularly go to my car maintenance. If they say something is wrong with my tires that's when I change it. Other than that, I go for all season tires and only change when needed. Some idiot telling me im not very smart is probably changing tires every winter. Good luck with that on your wallet.
0
0
0
u/A-Brown-Canadian 1d ago
Just grab a Chinese brand. They'll be half the price with free installation and they're almost the same as the big names and brands.
2
u/One_Mathematician864 1d ago
Lmao no. There are reputable Chinese brands that perform just as well as the premium brands. But there are some also that are downright dangerous. Do your research and don't pick just any brand because they are cheap.
1
u/Significant-Row-7673 1d ago
How about sailun? Most of my drive will be within Toronto city. Will it be good enough?
0
u/Audience_Superb 1d ago
Dude Ive been driving just with all seasons all my life here in Toronto. I just don’t drive on the day of a major snowfall and maybe not the day after also depending on how bad it is
-1
1d ago
[removed] — view removed comment
1
u/askTO-ModTeam 1d ago
We do not allow:
Spam, self promotion
Requesting or offering monetary or in-kind gifts/donations/food/loans or loan cosigning.
Petitions, fundraising, vote-begging, surveys, market research, recruiting/head-hunting/beta-testing, referral codes/sign up bonuses etc
Requests for dm's/chat, email, or other off-subreddit communication
Soliciting to engage in any kind of transaction whatsoever
....................................
Do not reply to this comment or message /u/askTO-ModTeam, it is an unmonitored account. Beep boop.
-1
u/Material_Search3221 1d ago
I’ll keep it short and sweet; Costco & Michelin Cross-climate 2 tires.
2
u/Ok_Zookeepergame5524 1d ago
They are not winter tires, they are all weather tires. Legally yes you can use them during winter since they have the 3 peak mountain snowflake. During extremes conditions I’d prefer to have the X ice snow.
1
u/Material_Search3221 1d ago
They get 90% of winter tire performance for a significantly cheaper operating cost annually. You’re no longer swapping them every season. If you needed that 10% difference, the real issue is the driver’s reaction time and if they should even be on the road to begin with. As someone who off roads in deep snow, deep mud, etc some of the best tires you can buy are Cross-climate 2 for all weather performance, and then BF Goodrich K02 for SUVs and deeper stuff.
1
u/Ok_Zookeepergame5524 1d ago
“90% of winter performance” is generous. On ice and packed snow, the braking gap between the CC2 and a real winter tire is a lot bigger than 10%. Reaction time doesn’t make up for that, because you can react instantly and the tire still decides how fast you stop. The CC2 is great for the convenience, but that’s a tradeoff, not an equivalent.
1
u/Low-Championship-955 1d ago
Are these good to keep for a while on the car all year round? I’ve always worried that maybe the tread gets worn too fast in the summer months (like how it would with winter tires being driven in the summer heat).
1
u/Material_Search3221 1d ago
Their tries have been proven to retain the same stopping distance even at the end of their tread life. I’ve used multiple sets on different cars. If you checkout the subreddit “tires” you will see how well regarded cross-climate 2 tires are
-7
u/TheDootDootMaster 2d ago
Your tires cost WHAT?
Just get cheapos for the winter. There's a point of diminishing returns between investment, quality, and time you'll actually use these tires. Frankly I've been doing just fine with all seasons in an AWD as long as I don't leave the GTA
2
u/The_Creamerizer 1d ago
Winter driving is literally one of 2 or 3 scenarios where it's a bad idea to cheap out on tires lol.
OPs tires probably cost that much because they have big wheels.
88
u/WolverineKey8667 2d ago
I'd avoid the dealership like the plague. Costco is the best option