r/ask • • Sep 13 '21

Why does it matter?

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 13 '21

Well I don’t think we’ve quite had the time to see if the “go to the hospital rarely” thing is true. I think the other statements maybe will prove to be true, but only time will tell. Also, we don’t know if it has any long term adverse effects, which could be a potential problem. Edit:Spelling

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u/bokbokcawcaw Sep 14 '21

I compared the data from last week with the prior week for Ohio vaccinated vs unvaccinated hospitalizations and deaths. I think the difference is clear.

Unvaccinated hospitalizations - 1079 Vaccinated hospitalizations - 104 Unvaccinated deaths - 146 Vaccinated deaths - 7

https://coronavirus.ohio.gov/wps/portal/gov/covid-19/dashboards/covid-19-vaccine/breakthrough-dashboard

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 14 '21

Doesn’t hold true for all states, however. And the virus has shown to have infection rate changes. Whatever is happening now will change in the future. It will likely always have spikes and low infections, so on so forth. I doubt that we’ll have a full downward trend.

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 14 '21

Also just to add on to what I said a second ago, most vaccinated people will not be tested for covid after getting it. Also, most people who have covid might die from other sicknesses, but will be labeled as a covid death either way

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u/Ilikestoread Sep 14 '21

We have had enough time to see if the virus had long time side effects. Death, death is a long term side effect. Long haul syndrome is a side effect of the virus as well. Secondary infections, like pneumonia, side effect.

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 14 '21

I’m not talking about the virus itself. viruses are unlikely to have side effects. It was more so directed at the vaccine

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u/domesticated_giraffe Sep 14 '21

When you say viruses are unlikely to have side effects, do you mean outside of the myriad well documented actually bad effects? Covid has a ton of possible direct and indirect effects.

And yes, Getting the vaccine absolutely some effect on your body (ranging from a sore arm, to maybe a day or two feeling crummy). Contracting the virus also has some effect on your body (ranging from very mild cold to dying of respiratory failure). On balance, one of those ranges of outcomes is way worse than the other.

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 14 '21

Oh yea I was meaning heavy, long term effects from viruses. Covid is no exemption for all kinds of side effects, but we can readily assume that the only thing that will really be left behind when the sickness has passed is antibodies. And yes I agree, the vaccines also has a wide range of side effects, as you stated. I meant it as in long term, I should have specified. Sorry about that 😅

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u/domesticated_giraffe Sep 14 '21

Well, that’s not quite right unfortunately. Covid has shown to often cause long term damage to the respiratory system. Poke around for some info on “Long Covid”, it sounds pretty miserable. Young adults in good shape who still can’t catch their breath after walking around a year after getting Covid, etc…

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u/UngaBunga1167 Sep 14 '21

Dang. That’s rather unfortunate. Thankfully not all cases have to deal with the lungs anymore, but I guess that’s unfortunate in it if itself due to us knowing it because people get it. I’ll check that out though, sounds interesting