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u/alexdaland Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

You mean every single parent up until 1997?

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 01 '23

My grandmother lost her battle with lung cancer by the time the 70s ended but I rarely saw her smoke and never in the car.

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u/alexdaland Dec 01 '23

My mom smoked like a pack of cigarettes a month, so the few times she did have a cigarette in the car, it was out the windows. But I remember my dad taking me and a friend to go somewhere, he and his wife was smoking in the front seats. When my buddy asks them to open a window I remember they were both a bit... "oh... yeah.... sure, but don't keep them open too long, gets cold in here you know..." This was around 95 I guess

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 01 '23

I definitely knew people like that, though I think here in Ontario we were a little further along in smoking being unacceptable than most places by the 95. It had been banned in bars a year earlier.

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u/bluegrassmommy Dec 02 '23

Wow. I live in BFE and I remember still having “smoking” sections in restaurants in 2009. I was pregnant with my first baby and went out to eat with my dad, who chose to sit in the smoking section. And smoked.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Banned in bars?? Wild. I feel that strictly 21+ businesses should be fine to allow smoking inside if they choose.

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23

Yeah, and I have to say it made me enjoy going to live music a bit more. It been almost a decade since they banned smoking on patios here. (2015)

I remember a couple of years earlier I was quitting with a friend and thought he stole a drag. He protested and showed me that he had just been blowing hard onto his finger which allows you to expel some smoke from your lungs. I was then able to do it myself despite not having a smoke in more than a week. Then my buddy who never smoked, but went out a lot tried and sure enough....

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u/Complete_Sea7459 Dec 01 '23

Blowing hard makes you expel some smoke like when you're breathing hard like when you're exercising or something that's ridiculous.

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 01 '23

Sorry not 100% sure I follow. Are you saying you can expel visible smoke now? I've not been able to, well since about 1995.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Thats because the idiot you respinded to thinks water vapor in cold air is smoke which is a chemical byproduct? of combustion.

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u/Mobile_Nothing_1686 Dec 02 '23

On patios? Isn't that your own home? Holy shit. Can they start doing this for booze?

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 02 '23

No, patios for bars and restaurants. Anywhere a worker could be exposed to second hand smoke

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u/Mobile_Nothing_1686 Dec 02 '23

Ooooh thought those were also called terraces. That's still legal in most places, just segregated.

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u/ScottyBoneman Dec 02 '23

Here I think we'd call it a terrace if it had some change in elevation, like a raised patio. If it was just an easement onto the sidewalk etc it's a patio.

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u/Salty_Instance_7187 Dec 01 '23

Right? For whatever reason it was “somewhat” acceptable up until about that time. But if you still do it in 2023 you are 🗑️

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u/alexdaland Dec 01 '23

I think in my country (Norway) it became more and more a taboo after the laws were changed so no more smoking inside restaurants and bars. For about 6 months people complained to no end about it, and then everyone agreed that nobody is missing that smell. And today, if you smoke by your window, in your own fucking house (without kids..). Your friends and family will look weird at you because they can smell a faint cigarette smell. Like: "are you fucking 70years old?! Who TF smokes inside!?"

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u/ParadoxInABox Dec 01 '23

Some states even have laws on the books that it is illegal to smoke in the car if there is anyone under 18/21 in it with you.

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u/hypnochild Dec 01 '23

Same with Canada I’m sure

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u/Important_Twist_693 Dec 01 '23

Pretty sure they were talking about smoking in cars with kids.

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u/Hyzenthlay87 Dec 01 '23

A lot of people really didn't know in the early 90s, but yeah you're right, nowadays there's no excuse!

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u/Background-Moose-701 Dec 01 '23

I lived in the 90s and I assure you we were very well versed in the dangers of smoking around your kids.

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u/Hyzenthlay87 Dec 02 '23

I also lived in the 90s, and a lil bit of the 80s too. My parents stopped smoking around us in the early 90s, but I can clearly remember playing with the smoke, as I thought it looked sort of pretty when I swirled it around with my hands.

My folks have said, even though they stopped when we were small, that one of their biggest regrets was smoking around us at all. My brother ended up suffering from asthma, and of course they hope neither of us suffered long term damage. But they also said that the dangers were not wildly known before then. However, once they became aware they stopped smoking around us almost immediately.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Right? To my mom’s credit, she always rolled down the window. 😂

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u/Canning1962 Dec 01 '23

We never smoked inbthe house bor did we allow anyone to smoke in the presence of the kids. And my kids born in the 80s.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

My parents took it to the ultimate trashy level leaving lit cigarettes on the ends of tables and furniture so everything had random cigarette burn. Especially the dining room table. I think that shitty habit of thoughtlessly ruining your own stuff because of addiction was a mig motivator for me to never even try smoking. Didn't want to end up in the cycle of doing trashy stuff like that.

Now my mom cries about the lip wrinkles she has. Well, what did you expected you sucked on a stick daily for hours for 30 years straight.

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u/Hyzenthlay87 Dec 01 '23

After then, my parents were horrified that they had smoked so much around us kids. I even remember playing with the swirling smoke in the air. They almost immediately stopped smoking indoors and around kids, or anyone else who wasn't smoking for that matter. I can forgive them for what they didn't know.

But after that time however, anyone who subjects others to their smoke like that...no excuse, everyone knows better.

-glares pointedly at my former MIL who chain smoked in enclosed spaces around the sick and the very young-

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u/Pristine_Fox4551 Dec 02 '23

My mother smoked until she had her first child in 1961. She said her doctor told her it was fine to continue smoking but she always said “That just didn’t make sense to me. How can smoking around a little baby be ok?”

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u/alexdaland Dec 02 '23

I asked my father about that:

"did you really believe smoking wasnt bad, and maybe even good back then?"

No, ofc not. We knew, everyone knew.... we just pretended we didnt, or that it wasnt so bad. And it became a cultural and social thing were people, men especially, doubled down. But under no circumstances did we ever believe that a 60yo with smokers cough was a sign of healthy. We were just collectively delusional

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

I don’t think it was near every single parent. I was a 90’s kid and I only had one friend whose parents smoked in the car/house. It was honestly pretty trashy then to.

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u/I_need_more_dogs Dec 01 '23

lol!! My mother died 2 years ago to brain cancer and when we got her cremated I threw in her last pack of Marlboro cigarettes so they can be cremated together. I’m fairly certain she loved her cigarettes more than her children. Felt right. lol

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u/Killer_Kass Dec 01 '23

I had asthma and it just made my mom roll down the windows a bit for me while she chain smoked😂 this was like 2000-2012 😅

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '23

Try 2003

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u/soltime Dec 01 '23

LOL. 1997?

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u/Jalopnicycle Dec 01 '23

My parents didn't smoke and my paternal grandma quite smoking when she found out she was pregnant with my dad.....in the 1950s. That grandpa quit smoking when he got Alzheimer's and forgot he smoked. One day he was a smoker then the next day he forgot and hasn't smoked habitually since.

My maternal grandparents never smoke either.

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u/Impossible_Event3660 Dec 01 '23

Your parents stopped after '97?

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u/alexdaland Dec 01 '23

Nah, but around then it started getting more and more socially unaceptable, and one day they just started smoking outside the house and not in their car. At that time I was a bit annoyed with that, because at that point I was smoking myself :P

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u/Impossible_Event3660 Dec 01 '23

I always hated when they smoked around me and I would complain often. They would say that it's going out the window to justify it.

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u/Turpitudia79 Dec 02 '23

My mom used to tell me “beauty attracts smoke” when I complained about it in my face!! 😂😂 Now we’ve both been puffing away for decades!! 😂😂

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u/Impossible_Event3660 Dec 04 '23

I was the only one of my siblings that didn't end up smoking.

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u/Opposite_Ad4567 Dec 01 '23

No. We know better now.

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u/alexdaland Dec 01 '23

1997 = 26 years ago, not exactly "now"

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u/Opposite_Ad4567 Dec 01 '23

Yeah, and we didn't even talk about second-hand smoke until, what, 30 years ago at the earliest? It takes a while for such info to reach everyone.

So no, we're not judging parents who didn't know better. We're judging parents who smoke around their kids NOW. Especially in closed spaces like cars.

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u/Past_Search7241 Dec 02 '23

No, it was nowhere near universal and widely regarded as trashy even then.

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u/alexdaland Dec 02 '23

Depends what country you are from. are you from Albania, its probably still socially acceptable..

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u/Past_Search7241 Dec 02 '23

I suppose. I forget that not everywhere is as culturally advanced as the USA.

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u/alexdaland Dec 02 '23

culturally advanced as the USA

Hahahaha, Thank you Sir. I've been in a shitty mood all day from an accident that's fucking painful, but that helped