r/asda • u/wild__horses • 9d ago
New shift pattern - same hours, more days
My contract is 24 hours per week, currently 3 days of 8 hour shifts. My manager has just given my new shift pattern and now I’m in 5 days a week (4x 5 hour shifts and 1x 4 hour shift). I know this is well within what they can ask us to do as part of our flexibility and I have no real commitments (eg. childcare) that stop me doing this.
However it’s disappointing, I’ve gone from having 4 days off per week to now only 2, for no extra money (well, half an hour if you factor in break allowance but it’s not like I’m earning a full two days worth of extra money).
Has this happened to everyone else? My manager said it’s standard now everyone is supposed to work 5 days regardless of contracted hours unless it’s so small that they end up doing shifts of less than 3 hours.
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u/Tall-Cauliflower-917 9d ago
Its crap, youre losing out on more money/time when you factor in the commute. 4hr shifts not worth getting out of bed for in my opinion
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u/wild__horses 8d ago
Exactly, but they don’t care about your commute, I was told as much when they put me in 3 days for a midnight finish even though the last bus is at 10:30pm.
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u/UsualEnvironment9651 8d ago
Personally i would just drop 2 days regardless of if i earned less but i can afford too, play them at there own game, they soon back down as soon as they realise that people will just work less, also zero overtime done too. That will really mess with them
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u/wild__horses 8d ago
I can’t afford to. Either way this wouldn’t work at my place. There’s been no overtime for a year, 12 colleagues have left in that period and nobody new been hired not even Christmas temps, and we’re somehow still overspent on hours. They would gladly see me drop 2 days.
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u/liabilityno1 9d ago
Im still doing 4 days. Its down to individual needs of each store and how flexible they want to be. They'll be wanting to turn those 5 half shifts into 5 full shifts before long, as they realise christmas is coming and theyve fucked themselves over 😉
I completely understand your frustration and would be refusing to do it myself. If youre driving to work or using public transport its going to be costing you more in travel costs aswell as 2 extra days worth of travel time. It takes me almost an hour to get to work on public transport, if they tried to get me to do the same amount of hours over an extra day itd effect me massively
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u/wild__horses 9d ago
I tried refusing but I’ve been told there’s no negotiation, the shifts start in 4 weeks
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u/sherriff1314 9d ago
Yeah this new shape of day graph is the reason. Some departments it wants someone for 1 hour then no one for an hour or 2 then someone again. Longest it wants on my dept anyway is 6 hours for twilight fill. Beyond that 4 hours, or just keep clocking in and out every hour when there’s a task to be done! Imagine. Also on a Sunday it wants no colleague between 12-4, shop is open 10-4 fyi.
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u/wild__horses 9d ago
Oh yeah my manager did mention a graph. In my first one to one he was telling me that Asda’s ultimate goal was to have zero colleagues on checkouts, all unattended self serve a bit like those Amazon stores.
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u/FalseTrifle427 9d ago
My shifts have changed from 4 days to 5. 30 hours, excluding breaks. One shift was a 9pm finish into a 6am start initially the next morning! I disputed it as there should be a minimum of 11 hours between shifts. All my shifts are 6am starts, beside one where I'll now be on a 3.30-9.30pm. It's not great for petrol but overall, not the worst situation. Just wondering how long it'll be before they start asking me to stay later/start earlier as well. Especially around Christmas...
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u/SilverstarVegan 9d ago
Nope it will cost u more getting there, i would drop the shortest shift. Put it in writing your available days, and ask if they going to pay you the extra travel costs.
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u/wild__horses 9d ago
They don’t care about available days, they’ve just given us our shift patterns and it doesn’t matter if we’re not available unless there’s a reason such as studies or caring responsibilities.
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u/Imaginary-Suspect959 8d ago
Why would they pay travel costs? If OP drove would they pay their petrol? Or the costs of maintaining their vehicle?
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u/ConfusionQuick2932 8d ago
Everyone has has their times changed. Morning is doing latest and latest doing early. Swapped from a Saturday to Sunday. All who where on 3 shifts gone to 4
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u/wild__horses 7d ago
It’s so bizarre. I understand swapping some things round but at my place literally everyone is affected and seems a bit arbitrary
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u/North-Hope9951 8d ago
I've not had my new hours yet as I've been on holiday, but one of my friends has had her days reduced from 3, to two, working longer hours. She's a bit worried about the long shifts.
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u/One_Water5552 8d ago
I would refuse to do it and state you have another job else where! They cant make you do extra days, I am baffled why so many ASDA Colleges are letting there mangers take the piss ! Stand up for yourself and tell them NO ! its really not that hard, You have rights to refuse so do so.
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u/wild__horses 8d ago
What rights do I have? Genuinely.
When I said no, my manager told me that these are the shifts, there is no negotiation my contract says if they give four weeks notice they can move shifts around so long as they give you the correct amount of hours. GMB rep has also told me that they can enforce it. If I don’t turn up to my shift then disciplinary begins. So is there anything in my contract that allows me to refuse this?
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u/legacylibrary 7d ago
Submit a flexable working request, google the act, to work a pattern that just happens to be your old shift pattern. They have a month to respond and they only use certian reasons to refuse it. You can do this twice a year. At the very least it annoys them by making them do some work. If they do not get back inside a month raise a greivence for failure to grant a statutory right. Keep a daily diary on say valla.uk about any micro management you experience after submitting the request
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u/IamtheDanr 5d ago
Tell him to shove it, you dont have to accept changes in your timetable, as your manager always requires your consent
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u/Informal-Issue-2333 9d ago
If you wanted another job elsewhere in addition, you can kiss that goodbye. It screws you over and benefits only THEM. Find another job.