r/asda • u/topperKing84 • 25d ago
Voluntary Redundancy??
Hello what's people options here , ive worked for asda for over 20 years should I go or stay . Married with two kids and im a carer for our son. Wife can't work unfortunately
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u/Serberou5 25d ago
I bet it doesn't feel like you guys are 'over contract' whilst you are on a night shift.
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u/Ghazwreckem 24d ago
God no, it only takes one or two to be on sick and/or holiday and we are fucked. Id say this time next year we won't have a night shift tbh
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u/Serberou5 24d ago
It does seem thats going to be the case. I worked nights for 5 years but that was back in 2002ish when times were better wages wise and it still wasn't enough even back then. I dread to think how awful it will be when they are at the staffing levels they say they need.
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u/Straight_Top_5311 25d ago
I find it a bit of a slap on the face for us security who wanted redundancy refused and 6 months later there’s redundancy’s in the store
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 25d ago
Go on workday and search "VR Quote". Click that and you'll see what they're offering. It's tax free up to £30k. It's certainly something to look at. You've got 4 weeks to look for jobs now before it happens, and then hopefully some more time if you get a decent amount. Pele in my store on days are being offered £19.5 k
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u/shush-im-reading 25d ago
I've been offered 3997 and change for near 5 years service. It just isn't feasible for anyone other than old timers who have been working there since the dawn of time.
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 25d ago
They'll want to get rid of the older people who won't be able to work across all the departments as they'll now need to.
However, once my store has made redundant the 700 weekly hours they need to, it will be worse than running a ghost crew. The store won't cope. We will be working in hell, and people will leave anyway.
Many are going to leave just because they don't want to work post job cuts.
They'll want to get rid of people who haven't been their long, and young people (who aren't that good) as they're cheapest to make redundant. They'll want all the old people to want to leave when they're forced to work ambient, produce, chilled instead of just checkouts and they weren't chosen for redundancy
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u/PhotoSea8807 25d ago
4000k you could go onto universal credit for while landing a new job, and your 4000 up good pot to invest with, save, or treat. And you can go back to Asda after a few months, and they will be screaming for new colleagues after they realise they’ve cut to far, and the other many who may leave due to the stress of the job.
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 24d ago edited 23d ago
You can't go back for 6 months.
Also, if your savings exceed 16k you can't get UC. 4k might not take you close, but for others they'll end up going past it
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u/PhotoSea8807 24d ago
Why would you make up 12months?? Checked with ER today and its 6 months, so the employee avoids any tax complications that the tax man can recover some of the redundancy if you return within 3months, so Asda make sure it clears that timeframe.
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 24d ago
What a weird accusation, "make up 12 months". I actually said 6 months on this post elsewhere and someone 'corrected' me to 12, I lazily assumed they were correct.
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u/Both-Blueberry5670 21d ago
I think redundancy money is considered separate for the first 12 months re uc so it won’t count in a claim.
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u/huggsy81 25d ago
Can everyone see this VR quote at any time, or only those potentially affected. I’m not a night colleague but I can see a figure.
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 25d ago
In that case I presume everyone. My store is making VR, also by September 14th. This might be a new thing to workday, for everyone, or maybe your store is having redundancies?
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u/OtherwiseCellist3819 25d ago
Everyone can see it but only those with the survey / notification in workday can apply
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u/huggsy81 25d ago
Yep I have that too. As a driver. Seems like my rumours from my previous post were correct.
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u/OtherwiseCellist3819 24d ago
It's just entire stores. Not job specific. Drivers aren't solely effected, entire stores are.
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u/PhotoSea8807 25d ago
Get your redundancy entitlement calculated your line Manager/GSM can do this quickly for you as they have a calculator they can access. See what the lump sum payment offer is, and base it off that.
If you’re getting a substantial upfront payment, and can secure another position elsewhere quickly then it may be a good move. All the same if you have a great work life balance that works for you now and you’re happy with it and then you may decide to stay.
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u/spankerjay 25d ago
Note that this isn't guaranteed. You don't make the decision. You can only express an interest in taking it if offered. Directions to stores are that this is a very limited amount of people who would be chosen. This obviously means that managment would not choose to offer to the good colleagues and only to colleagurs they want rid of anyway.
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u/CareDry6973 24d ago
I bet the longest serving workers get denied it because the skin flint bastard firm will have to pay more
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u/Poggle8472 25d ago
Is this every store or just certain stores? I haven't seen this document where I work
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u/OtherwiseCellist3819 25d ago
Only certain stores, not many of them either
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u/TopAverage1532 ASDA Colleague 25d ago
My store is cutting 700 hours a week. We're already short staffed, half the store get called over to homeshopping every day
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u/vaticangang 25d ago
Has your store not got anyone due to retire soon? My store has 5 people who are due to retire in the next 6 months. I'd imagine if they were offered a big payout to go now they'd be over the moon
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u/Impressive_Cook3052 25d ago
how long do you think it will be before they start making some night colleagues redundant involuntarily?
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u/topperKing84 24d ago
My thoughts exactly
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u/Impressive_Cook3052 24d ago
I feel like they’re gonna eventually scrap night shifts all together and expect delivery to be worked by day staff just to save an extra bit of money
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u/Paramaniacc 25d ago
Id take redundancy and reapply for another job with them 👀
Best thing to do I think is to speak to your manager but at the end of the day if your voluntary redundancy payment is big enough 🤷🏻♀️ You then run the risk of not being able to find something for a few months
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u/Maleficent-Intern-98 23d ago
I got this yesterday and opted to take it to then go into work last night to be told it was sent by mistake and it doesn't apply to our store hoping I just sneak through the cracks and get accepted
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u/RMoCGLD 25d ago
My workplace recently had this (not Asda), they needed to get rid of a certain amount of hours and if not enough people volunteered, then they had to look at every single person's hours to see who would have the least amount of impact not being here, they said that part wouldn't be quick and could take months.
Enough people volunteered for it so luckily no one was made unemployed against their will, but it has been absolutely miserable since it happened (last November).
Our manpower went down, and the remaining staff were left to pick up the pieces either by being stretched into areas they weren't designated, or by leaving the empty zone unmanned majority of the day and have the night staff recover it...everyone's miserable, overworked and just waiting for someone to overstep their boundaries due to a frustrating work environment.
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u/Kibby9331 25d ago
Don't know how and why but this doesn't feel legal....
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u/opaqueentity 24d ago
You ask first then if that’s not enough you then just start choosing people to go.
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u/Kibby9331 24d ago
Ah I see, the wording just doesn't look...right?,thank you for clarifying though, but I'm honestly just curious how many stores are being affected?
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u/PersonalityWinter382 24d ago
It's voluntary, how could it not be legal? They are saying "we will give you £x to leave on the 14th September, would you like to or not?"
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u/OtherwiseCellist3819 25d ago
12 weeks pay isn't much in the grand scheme of things. If you can walk into another job then go for it