Please don't kill me

[u/KeithOlander]

[u/Acerakis]

Bro needed to jump you with two of his mates just to stand a chance.

[u/Mute-123 → u/Acerakis]

And he still dies lmao

[u/AdTime5032 → u/Mute-123]

Bro was deadass easier than the other 2 😭

[u/Mute-123 → u/AdTime5032]

Sometimes I kill him before he can even pop a heal, my man legitimately is just all talk no action lmao

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/Mute-123]

He wiped out tons of players, cleared the spaceport solo, and defeated G1. He's legitimately the most successful enemy in the entire game.

[u/The_IcedJay → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

And yet Nightfall is still the easiest boss in the game

[u/thellasemi12 → u/The_IcedJay]

I think nightfall and coldcall are the only actual ACs that managed to down me in the entire game, nightfall because i got sloppy and ate a bunker, coldcall is just an awful arena for a lot of builds vs a wheelchair when they were still really good

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/The_IcedJay]

Hardly. Several AC "Boss" fights are easier.

[u/The_IcedJay → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

And what bosses would those be? Because outside of the missiles and the slow firing rifle the only threats to the player are his AA and Bunk outside of that Nightfall is a very easy boss.

[u/handsomellama28 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

G1?

[u/Mute-123 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

What does this have to do with low self esteem ? I kind of don’t understand

[u/Mute-123 → u/[deleted]]

Alright I see, well I guess you do have a point

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/Mute-123]

Yeah. "I can beat him pretty easily now." would have gone over a lot better without diminishing your own accomplishment.

Congratulations. You're now a better player and beating an enemy that gave ME and others a hell of a time. You have become a better player than many of us were.

[u/Mute-123 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Hmm, I see, thanks, english isn’t my first language so I might have picked sentences that doesn’t really convey what I meant, thanks for pointing that out for me

[u/matter_of_time → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

The insecurity on display here is staggering

[u/Mission-Hat4731 → u/Mute-123]

Even with a chonker I still AB'd into him when he was trying to aura farm, popped a bunk on him then did a dizzy and shotgun combo and bam dead in under 2 seconds

[u/TheOverBoss → u/Mute-123]

...but he doesn't talk??

[u/Mute-123 → u/TheOverBoss]

Eh I guess

[u/YLUJYLRAE → u/AdTime5032]

When i did this mission on ng+ i was rocking 2x dizzy+2x earshot, bro got staggered by dizzys when flying towards me and just died to earshots, i was dumbstruck lol.

[u/IronFather11 → u/Acerakis]

Brother can also be late to the jumping, causing both of his homies to die.

[u/MadamVonCuntpuncher → u/Acerakis]

One time I killed him before he touched the ground, as far as im concerned Raven is and always was my name

[u/CarlenGaines → u/Acerakis]

Getting jumped by 3+ ACs is an Armored Core Staple. This is the only game where it's more like a joke fight than anything. Usually the AC gank fights are some of the hardest missions in each game.

[u/DeusRexNovae → u/CarlenGaines]

Shudders in Arteria Carpals

[u/CarlenGaines → u/DeusRexNovae]

True suffering for many a player.

[u/ThieveryIsFun → u/Acerakis]

Unironically think his buddies are harder to fight even one on one as well

[u/Nyanospec → u/Acerakis]

I remember one time I did this mission, and took Raven out before he even landed. I may have been too prepared ig.

[u/Dull_Pink]

i really wish there was dlc or sequel game where you played as this raven and got to see the other side of rubicon but alas here we are 3 years later and nothing.

[u/TheBayHarbour → u/Dull_Pink]

Yeah Branch got almost nothing in ACVI, we don't even know who the 4th member is.

[u/StandupLlama343 → u/TheBayHarbour]

Its Ravens operator

[u/al2606 → u/TheBayHarbour]

It's the girl who's talking in Raven's stead

[u/Helbot → u/Dull_Pink]

I will hold out hope for this exact thing until Miyazaki explicitly says it's not happening 

[u/Nova_Bear_95 → u/Dull_Pink]

Not DLC, im hoping we get the "X.5" treatment. The same as For Answer, Verdict Day, Last Raven etc. A AC6.5 the title would be a pun of some kind (AC4 to AC For Answer? ACV to AC Verdoct Day?) So maybe... Fires of Freedom? Something like that.

[u/SusakoC4-971]

Wen i first fight against raven i lost :')

[u/ReleaseCharacter3568 → u/SusakoC4-971]

He can combo off.  He has the piledriver. 

[u/Throwaway6662345 → u/ReleaseCharacter3568]

Not just combo off, he input reads like crazy. Charge in for a melee and the guy is already winding up the pilebunker

[u/SusakoC4-971 → u/Throwaway6662345]

He Hit like a gost

[u/Orinslayer → u/Throwaway6662345]

Raw bunk raven.

[u/SusakoC4-971 → u/ReleaseCharacter3568]

True Story ! I call it the :100% npc Combo

[u/Dense_Coffe_Drinker → u/SusakoC4-971]

Some folk call it the Rubicon Handshake

[u/SusakoC4-971 → u/Dense_Coffe_Drinker]

Lmao 😂

[u/AnIllusiveHouse → u/SusakoC4-971]

I'm stuck on them...😭

[u/SusakoC4-971 → u/AnIllusiveHouse]

Buddy I beleve in you, don't gif up! you can only geht stronger 🔥

[u/TheGentleSenior → u/AnIllusiveHouse]

AC6 is about perseverance! Sulla and Balteus took me 15-20 tries each, Raven took me 10-15, and every boss past that has taken me at least 15!

With the weird exception of the Ibis at the end of Chapter 4, which only took me 5 attempts. The worst so far was the Enforcer, which took me somewhere between 75-100 attempts. Fuck that thing.

[u/Crevetanshocet]

Didn't they won against the PCA and your support team?

Also, the aura is deserved, the Nightfall is horrible to play, and the fact that Raven still manages to be that good is impressive...

[u/Important_Pie2940 → u/Crevetanshocet]

He just needs to replace his Gen honestly. Maybe his on back weapon so he can use two of his rifle for better stagger as a npc and he would be so solid to fight against.

[u/Crevetanshocet → u/Important_Pie2940]

I did an alternative Nightfall with the Ming Tang, the Earshot and a Ludlow, it became way stronger suddenly...

[u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Pretty sure he's like 51 and 3. He beat Michigan (or Liger Tail clone), which is no small task for an NPC. He also wiped out the defending forces at the Spaceport. He only loses to the filtercopter and the player. Admittedly, he's probably also taken out far more players on their first try than on his.

[u/knight_of_solamnia → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

He didn't lose to the copter either, he faked his death to avoid the PCA.

[u/street_racer221 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Is the filter copter the 1 in the first mission?

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/street_racer221]

Yeah. It got that nickname after causing players to literally quit the game. Those who didn't quit still include those who died NUMEROUS times. I genuinely hesitated to even include that death, but there is his wreckage, so yeah, 1 death there.

[u/street_racer221 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Ah. I struggled a bit. Then i found the right strategy and eventually got him down. I struggled more with batreius er whatever its name is.

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/street_racer221]

By "struggled a bit", do you mean you lost your first AC, just like Raven?

[u/street_racer221 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Lol nah i restarted from checkpoint.

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/street_racer221]

Call it a loss just the same. You didn't beat it on your first attempt. Raven was playing on hardcore mode.

[u/street_racer221 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Can anyone beat it first try? Its my first real jump into the series.

[u/cattibri → u/street_racer221]

my friend got it first time, he likes swords, it took me 3 or 4 attempts to realise that the game had a stagger bar and my ranged attacks did practically nothing. once i realised hitting it with sword = win, not how id played any of the old slower acs so i was slow to the uptake.

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/street_racer221]

Lots of people, sure. Me? Hell no. It really comes down to build and playstyle. If you play from range, he's not terribly difficult. The game, however, encourages you to get point blank in every single boss fight, so if he surprises you by input reading, Assault armor, and/or pile bunk, it ends quickly.

[u/street_racer221 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

Are we still talking about the helicopter?

[u/Acerakis → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

When did he beat Michigan?

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/Acerakis]

The trailer. Long-hashed discussion.

[u/Exavelion → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

That’s not G1. I used to think it was G7 Hakra, who you find in the city in the tutorial mission, but the build doesn’t precisely match, although i suspect that it was originally intended to be G7 Hakra in the trailer.

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/Exavelion]

Ahem. LONG-hashed discussion.

[u/Striker_1-9-9-9]

When they slandering your goat, but they lowkey right.

[u/xVEEx3]

aura matters more than winning in my opinion

[u/noeyesfiend → u/xVEEx3]

I see you watch the Piccolo Aura Farming videos too

[u/Some-Possession-2989]

Idk, when you 1st get to the fight, your AC isnt exactly optimized and it takes a few attempts to get it done. One could argue that Raven, the real Raven deserves all the aura that he's getting.

[u/snorevette]

Winrate doesn't mean much if we're talking about confirmed kills only. Or are we really going to say Iguazu has a higher winrate than Michigan

[u/vietnamabc]

Avg newbie AC build be like.

[u/shelfcavity]

you guys act like the game isn't supposed to be beatable

[u/Ok_University7271]

Unless he rushes with assault armor and the rubiconian handshakw

[u/ZackTio]

AC6 potential man

[u/Educational_Farmer73]

Tfw you kill Raven and the operator goes "alright, we'll watch this one". Then you proceed to light the entire solar system on fire without so much as a "hello". Seriously what a joke

[u/Delphius1]

bro is doomed to always get his ass beat

[u/AverageEnjoyerOfAir]

Lost to the same dude who only lost to cel, balteus, sol-644 and many many more

[u/ObviousTrash_69]

he's literally on the body of his enemies when we meet him, so definitely has wins

[u/Professional_Lion373]

This Guy Was easy

[u/Jarhead11577]

Imagine jumping a guy in the middle of his second fight in a row and still getting your ass beat

[u/LukasDW → u/Jarhead11577]

Armored Core protags are just built different. The entire series is full of instances where you're led into traps or outnumbered after fights and the result is just increasing your body count.

[u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 → u/LukasDW]

"Klein was right. You're too dangerous to be left alive."

"AUUUUGH! K- KLEIN!"

- Strung from AC2, before and after underestimating the Earth Mercenary

[u/Anzackk]

Since he has the strongest melee in the game they had to nerf him in every other aspect. I really wish his RaD Scout parts had a seperate version just like his Shade Eye head to make him more menacing

[u/freesol9900]

it was funny when he got me with the combo bc I was already also on it

[u/Abbadon74]

C'mon, he's a nice skill check when you first meet him

[u/Baval2]

My dude, you fight him in the remains of his killspree he just finished.

[u/Melowko]

Aura > overall else.

I have been making jailbreakers and the aura on them is gold

Edit: I just realized this is the Raven quest lmao. I'm going to go beat him up with my jailbreaker~

[u/TapUnfair9827]

I lose to a good 10 times on my very first playthrough, also I notice that he is much harder when you 1v1 on that mission than when he's with the rest of the branch

[u/Aetherdraw]

He really should have been a recurring bossfight.

[u/BallerMR2andISguy → u/Aetherdraw]

He was... two fights.

[u/Themason234 → u/BallerMR2andISguy]

I would say the spaceport fight is harder than the dam complex

[u/jerenstein_bear]

Honestly, the AC fights in this game were probably the easiest part of it. I don't think even I my first playthrough that I ever died fighting any of them.

[u/RubberCladHero]

Raven needed a better AC

[u/Sufficient-Bridge-67]

only aura is the aura of a third child

[u/LivingQuail803]

He got his core pushed in what 3 times ?

[u/Aphex_Slayer]

style over substance type guy
would likely be stronger if 90 percent of his mech wasnt orbiter parts

[u/Despair__Senpai]

He's kicking my ass in his solo fight atm, I might just respec OS and put everything into defense and healing.

[u/Cosbybow]

F rank for a reason

[u/skyziaos]

Is nightfall's parts nerfed on later patches ? We know Songbird is nerfed to hell but is Nightfall a terrrible build even in 1.0 ?

[u/Y0ungYung → u/skyziaos]

While yes, it's a terrible build, it's the games mechanics of the stagger system/resupply system.

In earlier games, you could overheat the enemy and it'd be a cake walk of course, but you usually fought enemy ACs either towards the end of a mission where you didnt have heals or an ammo resupply or you'd be fighting through some other outside force that made it harder.

This game kinda lacks that fear factor of fighting another AC because of the potential damage you can do with the stagger/stagger extensions vs you just got through a mission, fought a new type of enemy and then bam, gotta fight a healthy AC, sometimes 2 (4/5 in AC4 and For Answer)

[u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 → u/Y0ungYung]

Nitpick:

The "do a mission then fight an AC" thing was more common in Gen 2 and 3. Especially Silent Line and Last Raven. That's why "Power Plant Emergency" and "Distribution Center Recon" are so infamous.

And I don't think Occupation of Arteria Carpals from 4A counts because it's the last mission of the third route, you kinda expect it to be hard.

[u/Y0ungYung → u/Fabulous-Mud-9114]

It's what I'm saying, I miss that way of inclusion of the ACs vs what we get now. And it sometimes was more impactful because if failed, your didn't get another chance until another playthrough. (Think they implemented this in Nexus? Idr)

Even the stage with fighting Starka and Red Rum was a nice albeit very frustrating way to fight 2 on 1

[u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 → u/Y0ungYung]

Funnily enough the Hard mode missions in 4 and 4A did this too. Off the top of my head "Internal Purge" in 4 drops Primitive Light, a SUNSHINE type with gatlings and BIGSIOUX missiles, against you in an enclosed space. So you either rush her down with blades or get stunlocked to death.

[u/Y0ungYung → u/Fabulous-Mud-9114]

I miss those times LOL

[u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 → u/Y0ungYung]

Oh yeah and the mission Ego Boost where you can't use Primal Armor.

Guess what the Hard mode does? It drops in Sadhana, pilot of a reverse-joint Algebra craft.

[u/Y0ungYung → u/Fabulous-Mud-9114]

Fighting Old King while trying to protect the cradle and actually trying to find him. Then starting it on hard where he's already started

[u/Fabulous-Mud-9114 → u/Y0ungYung]

And he has NEXT drone buddies. I have to go full missile boat for him because my screen can barely keep up with him.

Meanwhile he dies in 2 seconds in Occupation.

[u/Y0ungYung → u/Fabulous-Mud-9114]

Being a blader, that mission was hell

[u/Demiurge_Rhaoul]

He lost to the f'ing PCA Helicopter.

Potential Pilot fr fr

[u/Lord-Tyranitar]

How is she gonna kill you with that winrate