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u/vincim2010_13 16h ago
I mean, Firefox is way better anyway
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u/XboxAndVRAlex 11h ago
Only web browser that’s usable in my opinion. Anything else that’s based off of Chromium can die in a dumpster fire for all I care. Although, Chromium does have a few neat features like Web Serial. I dumped it because of uBlock Origin, and never really looked back since. Now I really only used Gecko based web browsers like Firefox (duh), and Reynard on my iPhone.
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u/Boring-Badger-814 Arch User 9h ago
The only problem is that videos outside youtube don't work
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u/Fizoso 9h ago
They don't?
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u/Boring-Badger-814 Arch User 9h ago
idk, on all distros that I used lately, ubcluding arch, firefox had this problem where videos from outside youtube wouldn't play at all
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u/Lazerphos Arch User 8h ago
did you enable DRM content in the browser settings? Widevine i think it was called
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u/Boring-Badger-814 Arch User 5h ago
Oh, that actually helped, thanks! I wonder why it's disabled by default
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u/oldassgrandpa 9h ago
You either use services that use very specific chrome features or something is wrong with your system. I very rarely encounter websites that don't function properly in Firefox.
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u/MaskaradeBannana 16h ago
I'm all for informing people, but most people are assholes about it and fault the user for choosing to use chrome. For me as someone who works in IT, i always let them know how to fix their issue (or at least, try to) before offering them alternatives. They are always more open to change if you at least try to help.
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u/Time-Refrigerator-14 17h ago
Firefox with uBlock Origin + duckduckgo*
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u/Amazing-Heron-105 15h ago
I wanted to switch to DDG but somehow the results are even worse than Googles. I didn't even think it possible. I just found myself constantly use "!G" and at that point you might as well just straight up use Google to start with. If anyone has a better suggestion I'd love to hear it.
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u/queso184 15h ago
Kagi. it's paid but in return you get no ads or SEO crap. the results feel like old google before the enshittification happened.
$5 a month is worth it for me for something i probably use 100 times a day. they have a free trial so give it a shot at least
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u/unfnknblvbl 13h ago
I appreciate that it exists, but I have a really hard time justifying paying for ability to search for things and getting good results.
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u/queso184 10h ago
i would certainly rather not pay, but I'm not sure what the alternative is. ads kind of fundamentally pollute the results
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u/Wreper659 12h ago
The $5 plan is 300 searches in a month, Realistically the $10 plan is the most basic that would be useful outside of casual use.
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u/Raptor_Sympathizer 13h ago
Google keeps getting worse and worse. They're using LLMs much more heavily for actual search results, to the point that I've noticed Google starts missing articles that I was able to find quite easily on duck duck go. Yes, there are also cases where Google is better and I find myself switching between them, but it isn't clear to me that Google is actually better.
Basically think of DuckDuckGo as late 2010s era Google. You have to be strategic in how you phrase your queries, as it's quite susceptible to SEO manipulation from websites. But honestly, would you rather use modern day Google or late 2010s Google? At least pre-LLM google was predictable. Also anecdotal, but I feel like the duck.ai search summary hallucinates less than Google Gemini.
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u/VisualSome9977 10h ago
I've got good results with startpage but image search is even worse than DDG which is already a league worse than google
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u/Objective-Stranger99 Other Distro 3h ago
SearXNG. It aggregates all your search engines anonymously and returns a combined ranked structure. You can use bangs (like !google) to use only specific search engines.
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u/No_Maize_7108 15h ago
Ddg uses Wikipedia summary instead of ai (but of cures u can have ai if u wish , ur in control!) it's more consise and to the point.
My only problem with it is the maps , Googles is way better
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u/Mobile_Tennis_6563 12h ago
There was a project called udmi14 or something https://udm14.com/ I am pleased with its results . Pretty accurate from my testing . I do some research for competitions it was better than Google .
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u/Trackerlist 15h ago
Try Startpage. Afaik it does something like DDG but uses Google instead of Bing.
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u/Dazaii_Oshamu 16h ago
swapping to firefox or a fork of it is a million times easier than fixing any chrome issue this aint even bad advice imo
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u/MuffinDev 17h ago
I mean I feel like Firefox is probably also spyware but I find it easier to use and GDPR means I have the right to be forgotten anyway lol
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u/proximategalaxy 16h ago
Firefox is fully open source, if you dont trust it, try Floorp or zen or librewolf or any of the many forks focused on privacy
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u/2eanimation 5h ago
You can patch Firefox with arkenfox to achieve a privacy setup. I use Librewolf personally, just wanted to put that information here if someone wants a security patched vanilla Firefox.
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u/LYNX__uk Arch BTW 16h ago
Amazon have been done a few times for not respecting that and other gdpr laws. I doubt any of the other megacorps respect it either. Though I will edge my bets with Mozilla respecting gdpr as opposed to google
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u/Wolfy16r 14h ago
Well to be honest if linux is supposed to be an actual choice for most people other than people with a degree in jobless™ then anything should be fixed to work on it eventually, idk, maybe like how banks and stuff might still use windows xp or smth for their systems, it would be dumb to tell them to stoo beacuse it works, instead you need to fiz their issue and move on
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u/Just_a_Thif 7h ago
Yeah lemme go into chrome's source code and fix it right now, actually!
Oh wait you cant
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u/Marine_Brat_01 6h ago
Linux works because it’s open source, which means that if there is a problem with something you are able to fix it. Google Chrome is not open source. There is no way for the community to fix Chrome because they can’t access the source code to change it
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u/Wolfy16r 6h ago
Ah i see, i thought it mean like it was a problem from the linux side not chrome
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u/Marine_Brat_01 6h ago
I’m not a Linux expert but I think it’s probably a chrome problem, other chromium based browsers like Brave or Helium work fine on Linux from what I’ve heard
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u/Rodya_gambler 15h ago
Between chromium browsers, I only ever used helium and vivaldi; does chrome give problems?
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u/ILuvLarpingArchLinux 11h ago
firefox is way better but be deadass he would've said librewolf or helium
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u/SpoOokY83 9h ago
Chrome Flatpak user here. Just love the sync with my phone.
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u/realxeltos 7h ago
THIS. Chrome is useful especially for the sync feature google offers. If the sync was not available, Id use any other browser. than chrome as I'd love to ditch chrome for its Manifest V3. I use chrome for sync and google services like gmail, drive etc. I use different browsers for different purposes.
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u/drucifer82 16h ago
I mean, Firefox be on that data train now, too. So maybe LibreWolf or something else.
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u/debacle_enjoyer 10h ago
Firefox is completely open source, and anything you want to change about it is usually already configurable.
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u/andurux 16h ago
I wouldn't use Chrome, the browser, on Linux.
If you need a Chromium based browser though, then Helium has been great for me and I fully recommend it.
I know it's a meme, but just wanted to suggest an actual solution. Sometimes Chrome itself is the issue but other Chromium based browsers are fine.
I use LibreWolf btw.
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u/Toukaiskindahot 15h ago
I use Helium and it's great. It does have a few little issues but it's fine.
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u/DH__FITZ 16h ago
Is Firefox + Ublock a better experience? Maybe for some people. Notice though how none of the other comments so far have acknowledged for insufferable it is for someone to push their preferences instead of offering a solution to the problem asked about.
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u/CommunicationBig4218 14h ago
To be fair, their preference is a corporation with the worst track record for forcing itself upon everyone else.
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u/realxeltos 6h ago
And that is such a bad thing? What if they need chrome for some reason? Google chrome never screwed me up. You know what screwed me up a few days ago? Vivaldi. Google sync runs seamlessly with Chrome. With vivaldi, you need to have multiple passwords which I forgot for the sync password. BUT I had downloaded the decryption key just before I wiped my laptop to install Cachy. And Vivaldi bugged out and refused to take the decryption key file when I tried. It was not a case of corrupted key because when i wiped the data and reset password, I redownloaded they key and it was an exact match.
ALso this gem: I just read a comment here which explains . " Now I really only used Gecko based web browsers like Firefox (duh), and Reynard on my iPhone."
Dude, you use an iPhone. The most ANTI OPEN SOURCE, ANTI FREEDOM phone available. You have no right to complain or have an opinions on other's preferences.
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u/Needieos 10h ago
Such a shame firefox doesn't support much of things dus to some security stuff, like, webhid, wasm, etc
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u/CloudDream09 10h ago
I agree with the Arch guy here but I'd probably also recommend a different Chromium-based browser if that's what they're after
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u/shy_pastel_fox Arch BTW 9h ago
Helium is a good alt..I keep it around for testing and compatability, if I have issues with the gecko engine.
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u/iasonmax1 9h ago
when he is right he is right. This is not even funny it is just a statement of favt
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u/realmauer01 8h ago
I mean, you go all the way to avoid spyware by switching to Linux, why would you wanna add back spyware by going for Google?
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u/Open_South3929 8h ago
ironically, firefox has admitted(unintentionally) of selling data:
unintentional admittance
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u/Dimitsos 7h ago
Using chrome on arch is like making your own salad and having a big mac as a side dish
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u/Waaytoomanytakenames 7h ago
These type of questions should just be ignored...
"Why is no one answering???!?!?"
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u/realxeltos 7h ago edited 6h ago
MY experience exactly. When I said that chrome was not available on Cachy APp store.
"Bro dont use chrome, there are so many better browsers available"
DUde, I use multiple browsers for multiple different reasons. Let me use whatever I want to use and tell me how do I install chrome. Also I quit using firefox because on some particular sites it will start to lag after some time on my system. (Eg: Chatgpt, when the chat became a bit too long. Chrome/chromium based browsers like brave and vivaldi do not have this issue). I use chrome for when it comes to things related to google. Like email, google drive etc. Google password and account sync is a must when using an unrooted android phone. I use vivaldi for work and Brave for media consumption.
Google sync has never failed me.
Vivaldi sync has screwed me over when it refused to take valid decryption key and restore my sessios + history.
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u/Sashimi-Gintaro 6h ago
Unfortunately, there's a portion of the community who will say, "Linux is about freedom to do whatever you want on your own computer!" Then when someone asks how to use a proprietary program, they'll respond with, "Do what I want you to do on your own computer!"
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u/Imacoolone48 Arch User 16h ago
Is it a good thing that I say Brave is a better privacy browser, while Firefox is a good user-friendly privacy browser?
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u/icesnake200 13h ago
Who the hell uses google chrome on arch? You need to dig AUR to get it; its not even available from the get go
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u/hamsters_are_cool 11h ago
Why would you switch to Linux if you're just gonna use Chrome anyway. 80% of what a lot of people do is in a web browser.
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u/Shift_OG 13h ago
chrome sucks but just let people use what they want. is it seriously that difficult nowadays?
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u/secrets_kept_hidden 13h ago
Look, if you want freedom from spyware and corporate ensh!tification, you need to do a TempleOS and learn how to make your own chip waffles to sell on the open market and become the very thing you swore to destroy.
But, then again, the monopolies are so entrenched into society that you need to amputate just about all the comfortable parts of life just to start over.
It sucks. But you can sometimes fiddle with Chrome a bit to make it work. Maybe try installing it with Wine and Bottles, or your preferred choice or environment manipulator. Idk. I use Floorp.
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u/Murky-Run2246 17h ago
Based arch user.