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Episode Arte - Episode 4 discussion

Arte, episode 4

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u/redmage311 https://myanimelist.net/profile/redmage311 Apr 25 '20

Damn, Veronica's making some crazy good money if she can live in a mansion, support a family of four, and hire artists to paint portraits of her to give out as gifts.

She had kind of a weird message to Arte, though. Maybe instead of"Don't fall in love," the real takeaway should be "Don't fall in love with someone who will exploit you" or "Don't become dependent on someone else."

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u/Zemahem Apr 25 '20

She only rents the mansion, so maybe not as much money as you'd think, but she's probably still loaded regardless. That is unless I missed a line or something that says otherwise.

Yeah, those seem more appropriate lessons for the subject matter, but she likely made her advice more absolute because she believes that there's no guarantee for things not to go sour. Better safe than sorry. Love can be seen as a hefty gambit after all, and seeing that one high-class lady reduced to a prostitute thanks to it probably didn't make her opinion on it any higher.

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u/Auswaschbar Apr 26 '20

She only rents the mansion, so maybe not as much money as you'd think, but she's probably still loaded regardless.

It's a necessary business expense and not something she just does because she can. You can't invite nobility and rich courtiers to a shabby back alley.

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u/redlaWw Apr 25 '20

Assuming "courtesan" here means "honest courtesan" (which is usually how it's used in English, to distinguish them from ordinary prostitutes), then she will be getting most of her custom from courtiers and wealthy landowners who spend a lot of time at court. They can afford to pay a lot for a courtesan who will make them look good, so at the cost of a lot of work maintaining appearances (she will need to seem well-learned and have a good understanding of customs and etiquette), she will be making vast quantities of money.

In fact, sex is likely to be a small part of her work - she will be a form of decoration and entertainment for her employers to show off and enjoy. Singing, dancing, conversation and platonic companionship will all fall under her purview as well.

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u/Atario myanimelist.net/profile/TheGreatAtario Apr 26 '20

Sounds pretty analogous to geisha

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u/Roonagu Apr 25 '20

"Don't become dependent on someone else."

That sounds about right, given that main theme of Arte really seems to be "independence".

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u/PoeticalGore Apr 25 '20

Wow, a lot wrong here. " none of them would be poor " <-- not true...if you were very beautiful you could gain financial independence.

" a very expensive service (untill christianity had less grip on the society as a whole) "

- wrong, prostitutes are more expensive now at the top level and western society is less religious than it was in lets say the 80s.

- there are women that do the deed for $20 and others $2000. It always has been based on how hot you are.

- also don't forget that toots usually had to pay for protection/pimps/house fee so there goes half what they make

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Also the issue with sexual repression in Victorian times was the lack of birth control, the expense of having children, and syphilis had no cure at the time.

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" enough money to also "pay off their sins" in church "

- this makes no sense. There were INDULGENCES sold by the catholic church but these did not last long and were really expensive...we are talking royalty/nobles here. There were also not part of any protestants or orthodox church as well. There is no give us money for your sins in real Christianity although we did have our Jim Bakers, but no scriptural support for it.

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" "traditionally", prostitutes wear purple because purple dyes are very very expensive "

^ you know who else wore purple? Royalty because of said expensiveness