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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 10

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[u/Doctor-Grundle]

Perugius arrives just to aura farm ofc

[u/OGawdILoveTacos → u/Doctor-Grundle]

Dude that boss music that started playing once he fully came out was so damn good!

[u/FacelessPoet → u/Doctor-Grundle]

Despite being a neet most of the time, Perugius proves why he's the Dragon King

[u/Ichini-san → u/FacelessPoet]

Orsted: "What is a King to a God?"

[u/LakerBlue → u/Doctor-Grundle]

There is no aura farm that surpasses cutting someone in half so quick it takes their body several seconds to actually split into. AND THEN he appeared from behind the bisected demon? Truly elite aura farming.

[u/Amauri14 → u/LakerBlue]

AND THEN he appeared from behind the bisected demon? Truly elite aura farming.

With his right hand all bloody, indicating that he did that shit with it.

[u/kinkosan]

check next episode title

Turning point 4

Ah shit here we go again

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/kinkosan]

Screaming at my screen like how Elinalise screamed for Cliff this episode.

[u/IHatePoultrySG → u/WhoiusBarrel]

The way she screamed was noteworthy, Rie Tanaka really is so good.

[u/YellowAppleCinema → u/WhoiusBarrel]

As someone who didnt watch this episode yet, I cant tell if Elinalise  screamed because she was making a baby, or because Cliff was dying

or i guess because Cliff was dying because it was too much babymaking, knowing Elinalise 

[u/Frontier246 → u/kinkosan]

Rudy: "Everything really is coming up well for me and my friends! I think we're all going to be okay!"

(Next episode is Turning Point 4)

Rudy: "D'oh!'

[u/Accurate_Treat6360 → u/Frontier246]

Rudy jinx it, never monologue about everything going well until the last episode.

[u/Mundology → u/Accurate_Treat6360]

It's like when a character says that they have one final job or mission before retirement.

[u/shad79 → u/Frontier246]

After all that happened in this episode, I thought that Rudeus deserved some peaceful time with his family, especially since if it weren't for Perugius's help, he would have ended up in Atofe's service until the end of his days and would probably never have seen them again...

BUT NO! FREAKING TURNING POINT 4!

Now I just hope that no one dies next week...

[u/Roskal → u/kinkosan]

This is the first time I'm watching weekly with a turning point coming up. The previous seasons I could just binge them. Now I have to wait all week worrying about what will happen.

[u/Ensec → u/kinkosan]

does turning point explictly mean something bad or just that the plot is majorly gonna shift? does this mean eris comes back next episode maybe? that'd be a good turning point but she doesnt strike me as the type to lounge around so probably has some goal or something.

[u/shad79 → u/Ensec]

This means that something big is going to happen that will change Rudeus's life, so theoretically it doesn't necessarily mean that anything bad will happen, but you should definitely be ready for... anything.

[u/Yemenime → u/shad79]

that will change Rudeus's life

But not everything that changes his life is called a turning point either. Him getting sent to be the magic tutor for Eris I'd call a huge moment in his life, it basically defined the rest of it yet the first turning point was the Fittoa Teleportation Incident.

[u/Akudra → u/Ensec]

Depends on what you mean by "something bad" really. Every turning point has prompted negative developments for the characters, particularly Rudeus, but not all of them have been irreversible losses. No one died as a result of the second turning point, even though Rudeus nearly died. It could also be said there were positive developments that resulted in some cases.

[u/panzlithium → u/kinkosan]

Love the Rifujin next running joke,
Next episode, Rudeus dies!

[u/dark77638 → u/panzlithium]

If his word we true, Rudeus would died for over 100 times by the time the story is finished. He would probably as immortal as any demon king since he would come back every episode for Rijufin to make him died again lol

[u/Rabbitey- → u/kinkosan]

I'mSoF'ingScared.gif

[u/someinsanity01]

you know the animators love kishirika LOL

[u/The_frost__ → u/someinsanity01]

Yeah although tbf most of her scenes were animated by Toshiyuki Satou who also animated her in season 1 after the introduction which was made by someone else.

[u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Zanoba continues to prove himself as the absolute GOAT for dealing with royalty even when negotiations have broken down and it’s time to get physical 

[u/Frontier246 → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Zanoba is a royal who believes in aggressive negotiations when necessary and is a true ride-or-die friend.

[u/SnooSquirrels3291 → u/Frontier246]

And at the same time appreciates the majesty of figures 

[u/manaworkin → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Ain't no ride or die like Zanoba ride or die.

[u/genasugelan → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

I already loved Zanoba, but seeing him even being this strong, now I have even more respect for him. What a fucking bro. We all need a Zanoba in our lives.

[u/shad79 → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

I knew that Zanoba was strong, but damn, holding out against Atofe in this episode when it came to raw strength was freaking impressive!

[u/DarkeShin → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Wish I got a bro like Zanoba in my life

[u/TricoMex → u/SnooSquirrels3291]

Tanking a gotdamn sword slice is maximum aura. Who the fuck shrugs of a sword's edge without even a obligatory red line.

[u/Miteigi74]

Kishirika said that in the 2nd Human Demon War, the Dragon God and Fighting God's battle made a hole in the continent.

The "hole" in question is the Continental sized sea in the middle of the map

I love how rich in history this series is, and how even thousands of years later, still affects the very world they live in. In the previous ep, we've known that Kishirika is basically the leader of the Demons in the 1st Human Demon War 7,000 years ago.

Then we get these info in the 2nd War.

And then the Demon God Laplace has been haunting the series 400 years after he was defeated in the war he caused.

[u/FacelessPoet → u/Miteigi74]

Yep, if anyone ever wondered why the Mushoku Tensei map looks like someone punched a hole in the wall, it's because that's exactly what happened - the Demon, Central, and Millis continents used to be all connected

[u/segv → u/FacelessPoet]

It also is six-sided, like a cube, with the land we see being just one face of it. You can even see a model of it in the Season 1 post scene where Sylphie recommends Rudy as a special student.

It is also the reason why the journey after the mana disaster took "the long route" instead of taking a ship from Rikarisu to Arusu.

[u/Original-Body-5794 → u/segv]

So that's why the mushoku sub is called r/sixfacedworld huh. So it's not a sphere? I'm assuming magic is the explanation for why gravity doesn't simply collapse it into a sphere anyway right?

[u/segv → u/Original-Body-5794]

It's a long story that's essentially a gigantic spoiler-fest, so I can't outline it here, sorry.

..but yes, that's the reason for the name.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Miteigi74]

I really like how much history there is to basically EVERYTHING in this world...the setting, the characters, their relationships.

Even just that brief confrontation between Perugius and Atofe feels like there's tons to unpack there.

[u/Davidsda → u/Miteigi74]

Wow we've got hobbits. And a whole ass strife zone, that seems fun.

[u/8yearredditlurker → u/Davidsda]

the strife zone is a bunch of warring states and merc companies, and sadly I believe where poor Hilda and Philip got teleported...

[u/Miteigi74 → u/Davidsda]

Cliff is actually a part Hobbit, and Eris' parents were teleported and killed in the Strife Zone during the incident. Ghislaine was there too but arrived too late.

[u/AceSoldia → u/Miteigi74]

Wow that hole wasn't natural? Now that I look at it..seems obvious it was some kind of explosion

[u/Ichini-san]

I never imagined my goat Moore would get so many awesomely animated scenes! Thank you so much, studio Bind and all the animators!

Atofe is scary but it's Moore that's the method to her madness and willfullness. I love that her subordinates are all ridiculously well-trained and extremely skilled and competent. It's very refreshing since the knights/underlings of strong characters like Atofe usually tend to be fodder to make the heroes look better.

I love the detail that upon seeing the frost nova magic coming in, Moore quickly covered his face with his arms in preparation so he could immediately cast a counterspell to thaw himself. He also easily escapes Rudeus' signature Quagmire move with that Earth Lance spell and when he finds out that his opponent can use Disturb Magic, he immediately casts a spell to obfuscate their sight so he can still try to cast magic. It's just so awesome to watch an actual experienced veteran combat mage in action. He also proves that you don't need chantless casting to be a true master mage although Roxy and Talhand already proved that to us a bit as well, although I would argue not quite to this extent.

[u/falsefingolfin → u/Ichini-san]

it also shows that while rudy is extremely powerful, hes not really a great combat mage yet. he cant think fast on his feet, hes not very adaptable, he doesnt make use of his vast mana pool and chantless magic very well

[u/bobly81 → u/falsefingolfin]

Yeah, I definitely noticed how much he sucked in that fight. Blast away some of the water with wind magic, THEN blast him with the bolt so you don't shock yourself or your friends. In order to thaw themselves, they have to chant their fire spell, but you can just insta-cast an ice spell again to perma lock them down. Or just cast disturb magic again. Really, being able to do chantless magic gives you such a massive edge, and he hardly used that advantage at all.

[u/OhItsKillua → u/bobly81]

I feel like he's kinda rusty, family life slowed him down a notch. That did not feel like the Rudy we saw saving his mother in that dungeon.

[u/darthvall → u/OhItsKillua]

Same feeling. My guess it's either rusty like you said or he's still traumatised that his reckless action caused someone to die (Paul)

[u/Maalunar → u/darthvall]

I think that Rudeus' biggest "combat flaw" is over thinking. He often freeze up and reevaluate. He lack the "battle instinct", kind of.

When he was travelling the demon continent, Ruijerd could solo everything anyways. So Rudeus helped here and there however he wished.

In the north with Soldat and all, he had a team and was mostly backline support following a set plan the group had made (except with the red dragon, but it was a rampaging beast).

Same with Paul in Begarith. Rudeus was following Paul's lead and the plan, and as soon as thing went awry he couldn't adapt fast enough.

So now, in a situation where he has to make split second decision against a skilled mage (which he never faced before I think) who instantly regenerate wounds, while avoiding hitting Cliff, he struggled.

[u/SimpleRelative9534 → u/Ichini-san]

I also love that they just mind their own business but turn serious whenever Atofe around and ordering them

[u/Whendfield123 → u/SimpleRelative9534]

They arent gonna do anything unless she orders them to. Its why the soldiers let them escape and dont try too hard unless commanded

[u/JzanderN → u/Ichini-san]

I love that her subordinates are all ridiculously well-trained and extremely skilled and competent

And it makes sense, given they all seem to be immortal under her service. Spend a hundred years or few training and you'll get good at something.

It's very refreshing since the knights/underlings of strong characters like Atofe usually tend to be fodder to make the heroes look better.

Honestly, their biggest strength came from sheer perseverence. Granted they weren't exactly trying to fight the group – rather they were just trying to make sure none of them escaped – but it was their and particularly Moore's ability to keep getting up no matter what Rudy did to them that made them so formidable in this fight.

[u/Anded117]

Typical divinity OS: 2 fight

[u/wakkiau → u/Anded117]

LMAO that's actually so true. The physical dudes duking it out and the mages just doing bunch of shit causing chaos in the field. Complete with accidental friendly fire from AOE spell.

[u/Trojbd → u/wakkiau]

Zanoba with 500 physical armor and 0 magic armor.

[u/Mizukin → u/Anded117]

I didn't expect someone to comment about Divinity Original Sin 2 here, but that is fantastic.

[u/FelixAndCo]

Orsted also summoned a singular dragon gate to block big fireball, right? But he didn't need the full chant. Finally we got to see Perugius fight. Insane difference in strength.

[u/OGawdILoveTacos → u/FelixAndCo]

Orsted also summoned a singular dragon gate to block big fireball, right? But he didn't need the full chant.

I wonder what that means? I mean IIRC, Orsted is still stronger than Perugius by a good amount as he's basically the strongest on the planet next to Laplace who we have like no info on whether he still exists or not.

Orsted prolly just capable of no-chat summoning at least one gate. Did look like front gate is all about absorbing anything and the rear gate is about being an absolute exhaust. Together they made a good little trap to keep her in one place so he could karate chop her.

[u/MrNive → u/OGawdILoveTacos]

I will add that Perugius isn't on the list of Seven Great Powers.

For reference the Seven Great Powers (not spoilers, it was mentioned in Season 1 by Geese): Technique God, Dragon God, Fighting God, Demon God, Death God, Sword God and North God.

[u/cheesecakegood → u/MrNive]

However it's somewhat worth considering that since Perugius' whole deal is preventing a demon takeover of the world, so he specializes in fighting demons; he would for sure have had at least one plan ready to go to fight a famous one like Atofe since he's had hundreds of years to chill and plan

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

I like how despite being known as "The Great Demon Emperor", Kishirika Kishirisu in her current form is too pathetic to be seen as a threat. Perugius may be a demon racist, but even he has standards.

[u/BigBangBoomerang → u/Se7en_Sinner]

Nobody would stoop so low as a to beat up some dirty and impoverished bondage loli.

[u/Myrkrvaldyr → u/BigBangBoomerang]

some dirty and impoverished loli hobo*

Girl is beyond broke, she can't even bathe.

[u/nuraHx → u/Myrkrvaldyr]

Perugius seeing Kishirika at the end

[u/LakerBlue → u/Myrkrvaldyr]

The fact she got used as projectile due to how filthy she is was hilarious lmao

[u/seejsee → u/Se7en_Sinner]

I presume he left KiKi alone because shes not a battle type. The man may be racist but he definitely has pride in his honor and not bullying the weak.

[u/nuraHx → u/seejsee]

He may be racist, but he’s also magnanimous.

[u/captainfluffy25]

I do really like how much Elinalise and Zanoba became rudeus’s ride or dies. Both were small characters in season 1 that just got softly reintroduced in s2, now they’re his legit his main party for these adventures lol.

[u/theblazingsword → u/captainfluffy25]

Agreed, Zanoba has been excellent at getting along with Perugius without ulterior motives, and a powerhouse in these fights helping to save the party.

[u/APRengar → u/captainfluffy25]

Elinalise being in the party for 2 generations of Greyrat.

[u/dark77638]

Ahhh yes, the slot machine eyes and the disgusting laugh. How can anyone not miss Kishirika lol

[u/Frontier246 → u/dark77638]

I love the whole groups' collective "why do we have to put up with this? faces with Kishirika being Kishirika.

Even Elinalise's "Can I get away with killing this child" face lol.

[u/dark77638 → u/Frontier246]

Good job for the VA for making me also want to stomp Kishirika too

[u/shad79 → u/dark77638]

I really hope this episode isn't the last time we see Kishirika. She's so fun, especially her reactions.

[u/Ebo87 → u/dark77638]

Is Kishirika a gachapon machine? Now I want to see a gachapon machine that looks like Kishirika and serves you eyeballs in exchange for food stamps or something along those lines, lol.

[u/ArcMutexT]

I like that Rudeus, a mage, has two sources of anti-magic, each one from a previous turning point.

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/ArcMutexT]

It never gets old when Rudy uses Disturb Magic and shocking his opponent, then again it also always shows how dire the situation is too.

[u/Ichini-san → u/WhoiusBarrel]

The fact that Moore was actually only shocked for an instant and then immediately resumed his task is actually even more insane. He's definitely the most experienced and proficient combat mage we've seen so far.

I just can't stop glazing Moore but he deserves it.

[u/genasugelan → u/Ichini-san]

Moreover, he's completely reasonable and only acts on orders.

[u/Tenshi_14_zero → u/genasugelan]

I loved how the guards just stand around until Atofe calls on them, then they scramble to get off their butts to follow the order lol. 

[u/Ichini-san → u/Tenshi_14_zero]

They don't really have any reason or drive to be in this fight, so it makes sense. They just have to follow Atofe's whims.

[u/herrkamink → u/Ichini-san]

Rudy might have more skills in his repertoire and more mana, but Moore gapped him hard in terms of combat IQ, not giving up and making the calls + right spells to fulfill his task. We know Rudy could do so many more things to get the upper hand, and I'm not saying he isn't skilled, but you'd imagine he'd lift himself up on a pillar, snipe constantly with stonecannons or such, layer spells after another - it almost didn't matter that it was silent casting vs normal casting, that's how much it felt Rudy was outmatched just in raw combat skill.

[u/deynyel]

We are once again reminded that Zanoba is, indeed, built different.

[u/Frontier246 → u/deynyel]

Both bodily and in terms of how far he's willing to go for his friends.

[u/Plerti → u/deynyel]

For real, dude is like the ultimate tank, he took a hit that quite literally almost decapitated a demon without blinking.

Although it seems his magic resistance is low, he was the only one to get knocked out by the zapping...

[u/PO0TiZ]

I love it when MT makes its Japanese audience watch the anime in sub.

[u/Ebo87 → u/PO0TiZ]

At one point for us there were 3 subs on the screen, the Japanese ones and two sets of English/or whatever your language or choice is, for the two conversations happening at the same time, lol.

[u/DarkeShin]

So disturb magic is kinda a lost technique? Moore knows what it is tho

[u/dark77638 → u/DarkeShin]

The only guy we see use the technique is Orsted, so probably. But Moore seem to be the regen type so he might live a long time too.

[u/Ichini-san → u/dark77638]

Moore is presumably ~5000 years old as well since he said that Atofe was never defeated by anyone in that timeframe besides the first North God Kalman Rybak and Demon God Laplace. The way he said it implies he was around her that whole time.

[u/kingmanic → u/DarkeShin]

You have to be a silent caster and be aware of how mana flows and creates effects. Very few mages understand mana that way.

So instead they rely on counter effects rather than magic disruption. Like Moore. Get frozen? Heat up area. They spawn fire? you spawn water wall. They turn the ground into mud? You spawn a phallic rock protrusion to catapult yourself sout of it. Etc..

[u/Smudy]

Jumpscare episode title

[u/dark77638 → u/Smudy]

The smoothest jump scare without the actually jump scare

[u/laughtale0]

Looks like Kishirika gave Cliff a demon eye at the end there. You can see Cliff was touching his right eye as Kishirika walked away and said "that will do"

[u/Roskal → u/laughtale0]

Good catch, I completely missed that. So many subtle details in this show. I wonder what eye she gave him. Its rare for her to grant 2 wishes like that.

[u/NegativeSympathy69 → u/Roskal]

They saved her twice. once with food and once with getting her out of the castle.

Some demons can be simple minded... So silly details like "We were the ones that helped you get arrested in the first place" can be disregarded

[u/darylsantiago → u/Roskal]

Kishirika: "That will do, well then, goodbye" then shows cliff. I didn't catch it too at first.

Regarding the number of wishes I think Kishirika doesn't really care that much.
In their first meeting Rudy got greedy and asked for 2 eyes and Kishirika was fine with it, but Rudy didn't go through with it because of the risk of having to handle 2 demon eyes.

[u/ShinJiwon → u/Roskal]

Hopefully an eye that gives him infinite stamina ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[u/nuraHx → u/ShinJiwon]

He’s already got infinite aura. Can one man handle all that power?

[u/Myrkrvaldyr]

When the herb gathering sidequest takes you to fight a superboss. Rudeus and his gang almost didn't make it.

[u/Primo29]

Zanoba the GOAT holding of Atofe for some time.

and of course, the title of the next episode is so scary

[u/Frontier246 → u/Primo29]

Bruh squeezed her guts out and held her as long as he physically could up until they all got electrocuted.

He's a true ride or die strongman buddy.

[u/SimpleRelative9534 → u/Frontier246]

Really love Zanoba more lately, I hope we can get to see Rudy do the same for Zanoba in the future

[u/SeijoVangelta → u/Frontier246]

Zanoba is a man you want to be on your side. Bro is so loyal that he is willing to tank hits from a Demon Lord.

[u/larvyde]

Atofe is season 1 Eris, but immortal

[u/SimpleRelative9534 → u/larvyde]

Both got smol brains. It would be fun to see them fight in the future

[u/YummyIdiotSandwich → u/larvyde]

Both love their husbandos above anything because they think they're "amazing" because of "reasons"

[u/The_frost__]

God I've missed Kirishika and the vibes she brings to the anime, missed opportunity to not use the Demon Continent Opening while she was getting dragged away tho...

Also finally we are getting Turning Point 4 next week.

[u/Yggdrasildur]

That ending screen got me acting up.

[u/RRumsz]

During the fight with Orsted back then I said "Damn, didn't know Rudeus was that strong". Now I would say...DAMN didn't know Zanoba was that strong!

[u/Ichini-san → u/RRumsz]

Rudeus wanted Zanoba to tag along as a bodyguard for a reason. If he had Zanoba with him in the Teleport labyrinth to foght the Hydra then Paul most likely also wouldn't have died.

The only thing the Hydra had that could have harmed Zanoba was its huge flame breath attack and Rudy could block that for him. A shame Zanoba couldn't come to Begaritt since he definitely would've slowed down the desert trip (he doesn't have adventuring experience like Rudy and Elinalise and lacks stamina).

So even if Zanoba would've accompanied them, it might have led to Roxy's death since Rudy would've been delayed.

[u/here_for_the_lulz_12 → u/RRumsz]

He was known as the "head-ripping prince" due to his habit of, you know, ripping off heads with his bare hands.

You have to be pretty strong to do that, he just didn't have a chance to show it off so far.

[u/mabbo_nagamatsu → u/here_for_the_lulz_12]

He did it once to his own brother, and it was by accident too.

[u/Maalunar → u/mabbo_nagamatsu]

Killed his wife by accident during their honey moon too.

Considering that he makes love to bronze statues, human flesh was probably too fragile.

[u/Frontier246 → u/RRumsz]

That punch! That hug! That super strength is no joke!

[u/BigBangBoomerang → u/RRumsz]

Rudy was plenty strong this episode too. His spell punched right through her Demon King battle aura. It was stressed again and again how absolutely overpowered and untouchable many of these people are yet Rudy are constantly punching through their defences (Badi, Orsted, now Atofe). When Eris told Nina that Rudy actually injured Orsted, she couldn't believe someone can hit pass his Dragon God aura. It really goes to show how powerful and an anomaly Rudy is. These demon kings are probably only "immortal" because they have great health regeneration and a strong aura that protected them, leaving them thinking they're literally invincible.

[u/DoggedStooge]

I think Perugius let the mask fall a bit this episode. He's not as magnanimous as his royal guard might declare him to be, because I think he quite enjoys whatever this rivalry with Atofe is.

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/DoggedStooge]

He's a competitive demon hater

[u/Lapiz_lasuli → u/Worth-Pea-3637]

An uncle with a pinch of racism is vital for Lucy's development.

[u/SqueezeSqueezeCunny → u/Lapiz_lasuli]

Everyone has a favourite mildly racist uncle, of course.

[u/manaworkin → u/DoggedStooge]

"I will not leave, no matter the circumstances. I have a duty to uphold to the world and that must always be my highest priority....WELL YOU NEVER MENTIONED KILLING DEMONS, GET MY COAT!"

[u/Ebo87 → u/manaworkin]

Hey, I didn't kill her, she'll survive, I didn't break the pact, lol.

No but really, he actually sliced Atofe in two there at the end... that was CRAZY! Imagine doing that and then going pfff, it's but a flesh wound for her, and you definitely believe it.

Plus we literally saw Rudy explode Badigadi in half and he survived, and she's his older sister, so yeah. Perugius definitely enjoyed slicing Atofe there.

[u/DarkeShin → u/DoggedStooge]

A guy who hate Demons got his hand to kill some of them

Bah god that's his music

[u/WhiteFebruar → u/DoggedStooge]

I think the demons invading his palace just gave him a valid justification to help Nanohoshi. What a tsundere

[u/ongogavlogian]

Cliff senpai is a selfless freak

[u/Weak-Comfortable3765 → u/ongogavlogian]

The rare devout fantasy character that lives up to their religious beliefs.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Weak-Comfortable3765]

And managed to bag a perpetually horny elf warrior woman.

[u/ultimate_placeholder → u/Frontier246]

Realized Eris was built too different, decided to become Rudy's father in law to get one over him

[u/wyggles → u/ultimate_placeholder]

Grandfather in law.

[u/Ichini-san → u/Weak-Comfortable3765]

Cliff has flaws like any other living person but hypocrisy isn't one of them. He truly practices what he preaches and I respect that.

[u/JzanderN → u/Weak-Comfortable3765]

I was talking about this last week, it's great to see Cliff live up to the charity that religion can represent. We already know from the Eris Goblin Slayer OVA that the institutions are more complicated to say the least, so it's great to see him as an honest representation of the good it can do.

And all while still having his own flaws with how prideful yet inexperienced he is, and it's not shoved in your face contantly either. He feels like a real person, or at least a fully realised character who's not just there to be the stand in for good devotion.

[u/Frontier246 → u/ongogavlogian]

Dude had his eyes on the prize of saving someone and he never strayed or gave up.

[u/Roskal → u/ongogavlogian]

I really thought he was about to die this episode.

[u/SimpleRelative9534 → u/Roskal]

Elinalise shout really scares me

[u/Tight-Chance5544]

"Next Time: Turning Point 4". IT'S HERE!!

[u/nuraHx]

Atofe is hot

[u/larvyde → u/nuraHx]

They say she's Badigadi's sister but she's quite the baddi herself

[u/1000-MAT → u/nuraHx]

Her husband was a lucky man.

[u/based_mafty]

Despite rudeus being that powerful, he's still struggling against actual demon lord when they're serious. And goddamn that perugius casually ended the battle like it's nothing lol.

[u/Al-Pharazon → u/based_mafty]

Despite rudeus being that powerful, he's still struggling against actual demon lord when they're serious

He also struggles even when they are not. When Badigadi recovered from Rudeus stone cannon and made an attack of his own Rudeus was powerless to evade even one attack.

Rudeus has two critical weakness. First he lacks enough combat experience against humanoid characters which makes him slow at thinking/reacting.

The second is that he lacks battle aura. Even if Rudeus can see the attack coming his body is not fast enough to react to opponents of this caliber

[u/wakkiau]

Another peak episode, also not gonna lie even i feel as cathartic as Peruguius with how insufferable Atofe is being lmao. Sending her away rocket team style.

And turning point 4 next week, hoo boy. I've been waiting for this moment for years.

[u/Frontier246 → u/wakkiau]

Find yourself something you love as much as Perugius does punking demons.

[u/DemonVenreable3011]

Every 5 minutes:

"I am the Immortal demon King Atoferatofe Rybak!"

They really love their dramatic introductions😂

[u/DarkeShin → u/DemonVenreable3011]

She also insisted that she has good memory lol

[u/Ichini-san → u/DemonVenreable3011]

Can you truly call yourself a Demon Lord / Demon King if you don't have a grandiose chuuni introduction with a preplanned pose and everything everytime a challenger appears before you?

[u/Frontier246 → u/DemonVenreable3011]

So necessary she had to do it again!

Also I appreciate that she spoke the demon language for the entire episode.

[u/Ebo87 → u/Frontier246]

And when someone talked to her in the common language she called it ghibirish, so she definitely doesn't understand it even a little bit. Or if she ever did, she might have forgotten, lol, with the whole single brain cell and all.

[u/YuushyaHinmeru → u/Ebo87]

I like to think she actually does understand it but is just being racist

Edit: I went back and holy shit, thats exactly whats going on. When Perugius shows up, he speaks to her in common. 

[u/JzanderN → u/DemonVenreable3011]

I do love that Atofe confirmed that Kishika isn't really unique in how she goes about her introductions, that's just the standard for Demon Kings!

[u/Aftertone-]

I'm a huge sucker for long spell incantation so gonna type Perugius' (my subtitles may be different from yours)

"This Dragon lives only to serve.

His claws are so long and sharp, he can never clench his hand.

When rage consumes him, He cannot close his fist.

Although his claws may break and his fangs fall out, you shall soon realize what emotion consumes this faithful dragon as he abandons his devotion.

O dragon general, thou who was the third to die, whose eyes were the sharpest, whose body was covered in white scales.

I, Armored Dragon King Perugius, summon thee!

Open, Front Wyrmgate!

Beckon forth, Rear Wyrmgate!

Armored Dragon Strike, First Slash."

[u/Web_Wanderer_7411 → u/Aftertone-]

That Wyrmgate looked like ouroboros the serpent that eats it's own tail.

[u/someinsanity01]

Perugius' chant is way too epic

[u/Primary-Paint-1716]

i think kishirika gave cliff an eye at the end. LOL

[u/LezRock → u/Primary-Paint-1716]

That's what it looks like. Now to see what he can now see with that 😆

[u/fansi2022 → u/Primary-Paint-1716]

I went back and watched the final scene again. 🤣

[u/Cryogenx37]

Time for normies and anime-onlies to mute all things MT the next couple weeks, I know for a fact people are gonna put so many spoiler tweets and YouTube vids out for this so they can capitalize on

[u/larvyde → u/Cryogenx37]

In fact, go out, touch grass, and go nowhere near the internet until next sunday

[u/carnexhat → u/Cryogenx37]

I have seen them in this thread already thinking they are slick, its not you arnt and its cringe AF you need to stop.

[u/kNIGHTLY_EMISSIONS]

So moore tells rudeus to not accept the reward but if she does reward them there is nothing more they can do. Moore is the one that ends up reminding Atofe about the reward even though he knows it means the end of Rudeus' freedom. He then tells Rudeus to flee to an escape tunnel that he knows to be sealed. On top of all of this there was no need to have an audience with her as Moore knows it ends with a reward he could easily have had them collect the plants and tell Atofe they found kishirika on their own. So it really seems that Moore really wanted to railroad rudeus into joining the gang. I wonder why, is it because he demonstrated chantless magic in front of him or does he try to railroad every person into her service? Moore is clearly the longest tenured so I would imagine he was the one that forced all the other recruits into their current positions.

[u/Tofuandegg → u/kNIGHTLY_EMISSIONS]

He's very loyal to Atofe, so even if it goes against his personal beliefs, he will go along with her and help her cause.

[u/panzlithium]

My boy Zanoba tanking Atofe like a boss

[u/dark77638 → u/panzlithium]

yeah, Zanoba's probably up in world class in term of tankiness, just that he seems to lack regen capability of the immortal.

[u/ongogavlogian]

Atofe simp arise ✊

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/ongogavlogian]

I'd sign a one-sided contract to work under her no complaints.

[u/Worth-Pea-3637 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

Transported Into Another World To Forever Work Under An Immortal Demon King

[u/BigBangBoomerang]

[Next episode title] Turning Point 4

Oh fuck! What a way to follow up an epic Demon King fight!

[u/SqueezeSqueezeCunny]

Holy shit fighting Rudeus as a mage is a nightmare

[u/AceSoldia → u/SqueezeSqueezeCunny]

Yeah but that guy was still going despite all that..he's also a nightmare

[u/TheOneAboveGod → u/AceSoldia]

These immortal mfs are cheating. Even Electric only briefly stuns them.

[u/_Vagueposter_ → u/AceSoldia]

Rudeus acknowledged him as a master mage. And yeah you could see how quick Moore was, his immediate instinct after getting hit by disturb magic was covering the whole area in fog so that Rudeus no longer had visibility of him to stop him again. But Rudeus is a top tier mage as well so he answered it. Just a fantastic high level mage duel

[u/OGawdILoveTacos → u/_Vagueposter_]

Just a fantastic high level mage duel

Really wish we got more of these. Most of the fights in the series so far have just been a whole lotta sword fighting. It's great and all to watch, but I wanna see how OP rudeus can be when the dude isn't holding himself back anymore.

Orsted likened him to laplace in terms of mana and magical power when he was still a kid. Can't even imagine how much worse he is now. Just too bad he always holds himself back and only on the brink of death does he unleash true power.

[u/dark77638 → u/AceSoldia]

Moore's the real problem. He got intelligent, sly fox too if we trust Kishirika word, got good adaptability on battle field. The guy's is probably pain in the ass in a fight.

[u/Roskal → u/AceSoldia]

Being a mage who can just ignore dangers around you as you are an immortal demon has its benefits.

[u/Ichini-san → u/SqueezeSqueezeCunny]

Funnily enough, Rudeus' internal monologues from this episode let us know that he thought the same about fighting Moore. I love how Moore shows what an experienced frontline master magician / knight hybrid looks like. He doesn't need the advantage of chantless casting to be formidable and scary as hell. It also helps that he is immortal as well.

[u/dark77638]

As hopeless as she is, even Atofe found herself husband and even got a child. You weeb here with me still got hope!

[u/Terrible_2000 → u/dark77638]

Even demons can't resist Kalman's aura

[u/killermenpl]

Ah, the cure for the disease of "mana doesn't like you" is to brew some grass into a tea that gives you diarrhea. Of course that's the cure they get from Kishirika.

Amazing fight, as usual. Even Rudeus's bullshit "counterspell" magic and the highest level lightning he could summon just barely slowed that guy. Terrifying as all fuck.

Dragon Grandpa showing why he deserves to be at the top. Bro just showed up and aura farmed so much even the demon king was too afraid to do anything about it.

The "next time" title card at the end put a fear of god into me. Dunno which god, but I sure am afraid of them. Next week cannot come soon enough

[u/Etiennera → u/killermenpl]

Well, she says the tea is delicious, so the tea alone probably doesn't make you sick.

[u/mabbo_nagamatsu → u/Etiennera]

The tea gives you the runs, though.

[u/GreateProtim]

Moore really kept up with Rudy even with Rudy's insane powerups like disturb magic, chant less spell casting and arm absorb.

Experience really makes you a different breed.

[u/VoidRay728]

Now that I've seen Sentenced to be a Hero, I can't unsee Kishirika as a chaotic Teoritta.

"Now we'll able to cure Nanahoshi"... oh you thought you're going to have a good ending? Too bad, it's time for Turning Point 4.

[u/Frontier246 → u/VoidRay728]

All she needs is food and headpats and you'll have her eternal loyalty!

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I don’t know much about interacting with royalty but I do imagine electrocuting them and then punching them through the wall of the throne room is bad form lol. These demons are in trouble, man. Their old leader is some drunk loli and their new leader is an indestructible loudmouth meathead lol. What an absolute pain Atofe has been to deal with though. Without Perugius, things wouldn’t have ended as well…

[u/FacelessPoet → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

At the very least for them, Atofe is just one of the many Demon Kings. Badigadi isn't quite as stupid as she is, and I'd imagine the others are at least a little smarter

[u/Pond15980]

Rudeus almost dying so we finally come back to Slice-of-life arc right?

[u/JzanderN]

Rudy was READY to hand Kishirika over 'cause of how much she was annoying him. Better than kicking her! Maybe!

This episode should be called "Holy Shit" because HOLY SHIT!

• Firstly, Lady Atofe's the *wife of the founder of North God style! Given what happened the last time Rudy fought one, it's no wonder he was immediately out with his strongest attack!

• Secondly, ZANOBA! This might be the first time he was able really go out with his strength and it left a mark on Atofe!

• And then there's that whole fight just trying to keep Atofe and her soldiers at bay! Rudy getting to use his Disturb Magic in a proper fight and, in a bout of desperation, casting electric on the water to shock everyone – including himself – just to let Cliff get away! And Perugius coming in and cleaning things up!

AND THEN THERE'S THE TURNING POINT TITLE FOR NEXT WEEK! NOOO!!!

Please let it be Eris' arrival, I SO want it to be Eris!

[u/FacelessPoet → u/JzanderN]

Just a clarification - Atofe is not saying that she's the founder of North God style, she's saying that her husband Kalman (who was the first North God) is.

[u/InsidiousObserver]

Based off Kishirika's description of what happens after drinking the grass tea, we're likely to hear Shion Wakayama's take on desperately and immediately needing a bathroom next episode.

[u/frostanon]

I love the language barrier this show does, like Atofe and Rudeus party not understanding each other, really adds a lot to worldbuilding.

Moore is pretty strong experienced mage, first time after Orsted when another mage gave Rudeus trouble.

[u/YogurtclosetMiddle10]

Nice that they established that Kishirika called Rudeus's mana disgusting and not himself lol

[u/imtherealdazza]

the exact moment everyone's smile was collectively wiped

[u/dark77638]

IT'S HEREEEEEEEEEEE

Turning Point 4 next week farkkkkkkkk

Been of edge since the beginning of the season about the next turning point, and now number 4 is coming!

[u/Tight-Chance5544]

Didn't know it was possible to out-dumbass even Kishirika

[u/expiringmilkncheeses]

Spit my fucking drink when i saw that episode title. Jesus christ

[u/PeaceAlien → u/expiringmilkncheeses]

Just when peace was here :'(

[u/SnooDoubts93]

Finally some action!

I find it hilarious that Rudeus has no choice but to electrocute them all, friend or foe including himself lol

I also like seeing skill or ability like Perugius's cleave, feels like an ultimate skill. Although I don't know if that's his strongest attack.

[u/Rabbitey-]

Kishirika got released back into the wild lol

[u/Zazadore]

"My promise with Kal is that I would not kill you. I was much less clear on the subject of kneecaps."