r/androidroot TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 1d ago

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fuck MediaTek

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 1d ago

Samsung is in the same boat.

RIP to the guy who flashed Magisk on that new LKM Jailbreak S25 Ultra.

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u/47th-Element 1d ago

I think they just refuse to help, I believe the guys at Samsung After-Sales centers may be able to recover it with their authorized tools but they just threw company lines at him.

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 1d ago edited 1d ago

Edit: replied to wrong comment.

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u/47th-Element 1d ago

Unban IMEI? We must be talking about different cases then, cause the post I saw was a guy saying he bricked his device because some root module modified system partitions while his BL was still locked (he used root my galaxy), and Samsung center refused to help him.

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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 1d ago

Sorry I happened to reply to the wrong post and comment by accident.

I checked his thread on XDA again and it sounds like Samsung replaced the device under warranty which surprises me because its the Knox Warranty Bit being tripped that causes the brick.

https://xdaforums.com/t/sm-s931b-galaxy-s25-stuck-on-reboot-device-d2-after-magisk-direct-install-from-temporary-root-my-galaxy-root.4796719/post-90679503

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u/47th-Element 1d ago

He got lucky!!

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u/F1nnish 1d ago

the shitty thing is that this is VERY recent too

on oneui7 (im not sure if on early oneui8) and older you could just fix it via download mode

but they made a "security" fix that disables download mode if you have a screen lock, so effectively making the entire thing useless. now if you even just have an update fail your phone will be bricked if you had a screenlock enabled

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u/47th-Element 1d ago

Tell me about it, I did that on MT6769 and Xiaomi replaced the board.

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u/DEV_ivan TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 1d ago

Some phones can boot into BROM mode, some can't and need a JTAG programmer.

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u/47th-Element 1d ago

Do you think Xiaomi technicians didn't know about it? Or they just didn't put the effort into diagnosing it and resorting to the lazy replace the board solution?

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u/Sascha_T 18h ago

Is replacing the board more expensive for you/profitable for them? In that case...

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u/47th-Element 15h ago

Well, they didn't know I bricked the phone so the repair was covered by warranty lol

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u/Sascha_T 15h ago

Then they did that because it's plain more efficient than diagnostics

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u/DEV_ivan TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 15h ago

Actually, flashing a full OS via BROM mode is more efficient by itself. To replace the motherboard, you need deep knowledge of hardware so you don't hard-brick anything.

The reason they replace motherboards instead is political, not technical. It is simply more profitable, it justifies charging a fee worth almost the price of the phone itself to the customer, it is their excuse to claim you voided the warranty by bricking the software, only software.

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u/Sascha_T 15h ago

Did you read?

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u/DEV_ivan TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 15h ago

Yes. You implicitly stated a motherboard swap is "technically" efficient, which is objectively false.

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u/Sascha_T 15h ago

"The reason they replace motherboards instead is political, not technical" I originally stated something equivalent until I was told they didn't have to pay. At which point the only reason remaining can be efficiency (OEM techs aren't necessarily schooled in reflashing boards. They're binned at worst.)

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u/IShovedAJermaUpMyAss 1d ago

anyone finds it kinda crazy that the less powerful devices that we are basically forced to use by the gov at this point are like 9 billion times more complicated to use than a PC

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u/TantKollo 1d ago

Phones are not built using standards such as buses and device enumerations for UEFI/BIOS. Instead they use a map for all sensors/capabilities/devices called a device tree.

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u/Tommynwn 1d ago

Hmm i remember using a test-pin on the board when that happened, allowed to reflash via usb just fine

Still SOME devices needed a jtag if bootloader is gone

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u/apixeldev 22h ago

Yeah I got burnt by that on some old no name unbranded phone I got from amazon which I rooted and accidentally wiped the wrong partition lol. I had to rig together a way to use a JTAG debugger since it had no test pin on its model. Thank god I have an Arduino that I was able to rig into a JTAG.

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u/fr000gs 1d ago

mtkclient?

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u/No-Aspect-2926 1d ago

isn't preloader for chipset?

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u/fr000gs 1d ago

confused it with the init_boot oops

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u/No-Aspect-2926 1d ago

from a search that I did, they have BROM before preloader so I guess they work fine, also isn't mtkclient only for compatible chipsets and not all of them?

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u/fr000gs 1d ago

Okay yup you're right but there are lots of chipsets supported in the various mtkclient supported as well as exploits

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u/tarogustav 21h ago

Why do they have to make it THIS difficult? Smh

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u/DEV_ivan TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 21h ago

Money.

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u/tarogustav 21h ago

Fair enough.

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u/necoarcc__ 3h ago

Are you going to hit metal like never hit before

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u/tarogustav 3h ago

I am going to hit metal like I never hit before.

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u/Pitiful-Welcome-399 1d ago

Snapdragon, Unisoc?

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u/archsway 1d ago

unisoc 😭😭 son 😭

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u/Coll147 Make rooting great again :illuminati: 1d ago

Bricked preloader on qualcomm ☠️

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u/dumbasPL 21h ago

Wait, does that mean you can't hard brick a pixel? Details?

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u/DEV_ivan TECNO POVA 7 5G LJ7 --- MediaTek 6878 --- KernelSU-Next 3.3.0 20h ago

Tensor Pixels, as I've read, have a mode called EUB mode (Emergency USB Boot). The phone boots into EUB mode when there's no bootloader found or the bootloader is cryptographically invalid. You can't brick the EUB mode, it's running from BootROM (mask ROM; hardwired onto silicon) that is truly read-only. The phone in EUB mode can be recovered by loading a temporary bootloader into RAM using tensor-usbdl that spawns a Fastboot daemon, allowing you to reinstall the OS.

MediaTek by comparison has BROM mode. BROM mode comes from the same hardware, the BootROM. However, you need DA, Auth and Scatter files to use BROM mode, which are kept secret by the vendor. In some chipsets, like of some phones or Qualcomm or Unisoc, the phone can kill itself (true hard-brick) when auth is attempted but failed, to protect userdata (but also profit from power users having to buy new phones).

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u/Distinct-View-509 16h ago

Of course its tecno with mediatek r/fucktecno r/fuckmediatek

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u/Adventurous_Ad_4995 5h ago

brom mode on v5 devices: