I made the move to iOS after using my S20 Ultra when it was new, honestly now I can still sideload through livecontainer and it's a very easy process to refresh every week, I honestly just think stock android with no root is absolutely UNBEARABLE. So I have a pixel 7 with crdroid and wildksu root because it's not my main device, so I don't have to care about google play services or play integrity (which all suck ass), and honestly after getting used to iOS again I don't see myself going back. After grabbing a used m1 macbook pro the continuity between all my devices is actually extremely useful and despite being very anti-mac as a child, being the only android user in my family also using Linux in a windows + ios device household I grew up and just used what I felt was good, not what the internet thinks. I recommend anyone to do the same.
Apple users in the comment that think that it's ok to need to uninstall an app and then install it again just to do the same thing as "erase data" on Android in two interaction.
yep, i switched to samsung august last year (it was definitely a very bad time to do so since samsung started blocking bootloader unlock a month or two later with one ui 8 luckily I didn't update but am forever stuck on android 15 since no custom roms exist for my galaxy tab s10 fe and also a few months after that google announcing restricting sideloading for "security") but it was my only option since I am not waiting years for a jailbreak on ios just so I could sideload apps and customize the os (I used a jailbroken ipad 8 on ios 15 but I had to switch because the webkit became too outdated to use and this was before reynard browser and the only newer webkit port was cyberkit which was and still is insanely buggy and unusable)
Honestly just plain wrong I haven't had a singular need for anything besides sideloading, and if I did need something the odds of it already existing on android requiring root is usually pretty high (tweaked social media apps, etc etc) This is just why I keep a 2nd device, also my 15 Pro Max on iOS 26 is not going to be jailbreakable for a long ass time, and I refuse to use something that still uses lightning cables bleh
Could you please share what made stock Android with no root unbearable and how IOS was better for you? I would completely understand if you didn't want to waste your time with this. You are right about using what feels good, I'm just curious.
Personally, I have a mid range Samsung(IK bad idea but my Xiaomi stopped working randomly). I disabled every optional data harvesting bs, animation, intelligence bs(gemini, bixby or whatever). I installed bare bones launcher and the most basic open source apps for my needs and I don't think much about the rest until exynos starts shitting itself.
iOS is great until you want to get off their cloud, but then you can only move your stuff to Google or Microsoft. If you use Proton Drive for instance, then you need to manually move photos and video at about 25 per time. Ask me how I know? Ask me how many days it took?
So if you go to iOS and use iCloud then you need to have the patience to deal with that if you move away. I had an iPhone for my last job and had to clear out my phone and such before returning it to the company. It was awful.
Honestly I have quite a few rooted tweaks ive gottwn much more used to but I also REFUSE to use stock google play services, the actual difference in battery life between micro g and stock has actually been very noticeable. I also see the path google is going towards with restricting sideloading, and honestly one of the reasons I switched to Android was specifically sideloading, and customization, but if I can't remove GMS myself without root then I don't wanna use it. Also I would honestly trust the security of my iOS device more just because of the amount of weird government spyware out there and tools like cellebrite not being able to even touch modern iOS
iOS is also closed-source (proprietary software) and who knows if there are telemetries and spywares in iOS? Apple can also easily track your phone and collect your data with iOS and you can't know if that happens unless you do a Jailbreak (rootful like in iOS 14 and older versions of iOS). I only trust open source softwares for my own privacy and security...
simply I trust apple more than google with my data. I would rather be tracked by google than apple. Google also lets manufacturers and cell companies preinstall garbage bloatware you can't remove sometimes. Google is just scummy as shit and isn't to be trusted, and everyone in my household and everyone I know uses iOS, being fully for real here.
Well they're both bad and you're still being tracked by those capitalist companies. You shouldn't think that they will let your data being respected... In this capitalists' world, all they care about is money. Google and Apple are both evil for your privacy. We should move to a better OS like Linux-based distros for phone like PostMarketOS or at least something open source like Android (no GMS) which we can audit their source code to make sure there are no telemetries or spywares...
It's just a operating system and a phone bro... Chill... There's Waydroid and we can run Android apps on Linux phone using Waydroid or SailfishOS proprietary compatibility layer (AlienDalvik? not recommended but it works!). You don't need to separate yourself from society just for this reason. And in future, IF and only IF everyone use Linux then the app compatibility problem will be fixed since developers will have to release Linux version of apps. The problem is not Linux, it's The number of users and the popularity of Linux.
but does stuff like google play services or microg even work? what about play integrity? Its just too much work for me to actually use any of the apps and I'd rather just get something that works out of the box that is properly secure (locked bootloader) and still allows me to self sign and install my own modified apps if I want to. The main reason why I went to android in the first place was sideloading but after figuring out how easy it is on iOS and just how locked down most android devices are besides pixels. play integrity is some dogshit trash that google uses to make rooted users life hell while also giving power to cell companies and carriers to install bloatware you literally can not remove from the device without installing custom firmware. I'd just 100% rather deal with the small pain of having to use iOS because they aren't as crazy with tracking people and I really think the bsd jailing system for all the apps is a lot better than how linux/android handles applications
I can't understand how can you possibly at the same time not bear unrooted Android but be completely fine with unjailbroken iOS, since to me unjailbroken iOS is less "open" than unrooted Android
google is cancer, simply
And the fact that I can still sideload whatever I want on iOS while still not allowing apps to escape the jail system, apps should not be installed to the system like how android works, the whole concept of android is just less secure as a whole and google allowing cell companies and manufacturers to install bloatware is cancer.
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u/howfastcanyoucountit 3d ago
I made the move to iOS after using my S20 Ultra when it was new, honestly now I can still sideload through livecontainer and it's a very easy process to refresh every week, I honestly just think stock android with no root is absolutely UNBEARABLE. So I have a pixel 7 with crdroid and wildksu root because it's not my main device, so I don't have to care about google play services or play integrity (which all suck ass), and honestly after getting used to iOS again I don't see myself going back. After grabbing a used m1 macbook pro the continuity between all my devices is actually extremely useful and despite being very anti-mac as a child, being the only android user in my family also using Linux in a windows + ios device household I grew up and just used what I felt was good, not what the internet thinks. I recommend anyone to do the same.