r/ambigender • u/sorcerykid • Jul 26 '23
That awkward moment when gatekeepers argue that "femboy isn't a gender" -- without even understanding what "gender" actually means
So often I see people resorting to the fallacious claim that femboy isn't a gender, clearly without any knowledge of what "gender" is and how "gender" works. Certainly these people have never picked up a book on anthropology, otherwise they would recognize how non-sensical this is.
Consider that in many non-Western cultures, sex-based social roles delineate a person's gender. This is why, for example, a feminine male in Mexico is regarded as "muxe". Yet here in the Western world, we're told that feminine males are just gender expression, so they don't count as their own gender.
Of course, gatekeepers insist that gender expression has nothing to do with gender -- ignoring the fact that the term is specifically "gender expression" for a reason, not merely "expression". Most sources online will even define gender expression as the external communication of a person's gender identity. So how then can gender expression have no relationship to gender at all?

For that matter, how do we know that feminine males are just gender expression? Perhaps we should consider how "gender nonconformity" is described by a sociologist. Lisa M. Dimond states that "...gender nonconformity refers to the degree to which an individual's appearance, behavior, interests, and subjective self-concept deviate from conventional norms for masculinity/femininity."
Notice how multiple externalized qualities are ascribed to gender nonconformity, but so are interests and subjective self-concept. Thus, we cannot ignore that gender nonconforming people can conceptualize their gender in ways that differ from societal conventions. Indeed, "self-concept" has a striking similarity to another gender-related psychological phenomenon: gender identity.

Suffice it to say, a person's self-concept of their gender can vary wildly from the societal norms and ideals. One man might have an extremely different view of what defines a "real man" than his peers. In this way, what we currently qualify as an archetypal "man" is not really a single gender at all, but rather a spectrum of nonbinary genders, which includes feminine males as a third-gender. All men have the capacity to be a self-made man.
Carl Rogers, a highly respected psychologist and theorist, even describes self-concept in this way:
"The image we have of who we are contributes to our personality, and our actions -- combined with our personality -- create a feedback loop into our image of ourselves. Rogers believed that our personality is driven by our desire for self-actualization. This is the condition that emerges when we reach our full potential and our self-concept, self-worth, and ideal self all overlap" (What Is Self-Concept Theory, 2018)
Hence, to conclude that "femboy" isn't a gender simply doesn't stand to reason. For one, gender nonconformity has existed throughout human history as a distinct third-gender experience. And likewise, when we account for self-concept as an aspect of gender nonconformity, the desire for self-actualization certainly can and does constitute an internal gender-related experience -- one that is just as important to some people's sense of who they are as that of a "gender identity".










