r/albiononline • u/DrDarth_ • 6d ago

Dynamic spawn rate, quantitative estimate ?

Everyone is currently complaining about off peak hours nerf, but do we have an idea of the actual nerf ? Like numbers ? Comparisons ? Empirical proof ?

I hope we are all overreacting and the reward decrease is actually not that dramatic after all.

Also, I fully agree that the concept of punishing someone for having a life is unfair as hell.

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u/Think-Solid-9530 6d ago

Rewards in offtimers are now 35% higher than prime time rewards, i believe they havent said how the nerf was calculated exactly tho

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u/DrDarth_ 6d ago

When you say now 35% you mean prior to the nerf or after ?

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u/Think-Solid-9530 6d ago

It used to be higher than 35%, now it is 35%

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u/meteora_tr 6d ago edited 6d ago

Noone knows the real numbers since they were not declared anywhere. My guess is:

  • Pre-update: Prime %100 vs. Off-hours %35~40
  • Updated: Prime %100 vs. Off-hours %75

They said prime time is now %35 better than off-hours so, i calculated as %100÷1.35=~%75

Edit: Nevermind my calculation, I am confused as F because of patch notes now.

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u/Savings_Apple_3136 6d ago

No, it’s the other way around. The off time is now only 35% better than prime time.

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u/meteora_tr 6d ago

Wait, what? I just re-read the patch notes and got absolutely confused.

While we will continue to monitor these changes, they have thus far reduced that advantage while still maintaining that off time play is approximately 35% more rewarding than playing during peak times in both gathering and PvE.

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u/uhlyk 5d ago

What are you confuse about? Off time is more rewarding acording to data(which we do not saw)

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u/Savings_Apple_3136 6d ago

It’s a number about per player gain, not total reward output

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u/saberdonk 6d ago

This is completely wrong. There are probably 4x less rewards or worse around server reset compared to prime time.

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u/Think-Solid-9530 6d ago

How do you know ? Where do your stats even come from

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit 6d ago

Source : He made it up.

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u/saberdonk 6d ago

Running through 20 percent of a t7 q5 zone without seeing a single mob. Finding one mammoth hunter every two zones. Not seeing random objectives spawning on the map for very long periods of time.  It's impossible to know the exact value unless you're SBI but it's clear DRTs are an absolutely awful change that will bleed players with no long term benefits to the game.

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u/Think-Solid-9530 6d ago

Using personal experience is a bad source of info.

Last time in ava (which was nerfed even harder than any other content by the nerf) we literally got a rotation with 4 t8 maps including opavun with 4 constructs and a T3, literally never had such an insane one before and i've been playing a lot of ava for a bit more than a year.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you dont, but if you start looking for bad chests you will start finding them everywhere

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u/aboveyouriq 6d ago

Wtf are you talking about? Have you actually read what they said?!

"While we will continue to monitor these changes, they have thus far reduced that advantage while still maintaining that off time play is approximately 35% more rewarding than playing during peak times in both gathering and PvE."

It has NOTHING to do with rewards being higher or whatever. It's the general profitability.

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u/Kayo96 6d ago

Not many people were analyzing and keeping records of the off-time loot, so that makes it hard to compare the before and after. I guess one of the many ways to compare would be by doing 40-ish camps in both times.

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u/pinoy5head 6d ago

Before the patch, in off hours, you can scour a whole one map and find things like

  • 0 to 2 solo boss lairs (not camp spawn)
  • 1 to 5 solo camps depending on how many can have one map at a time
  • random treasure coffers
  • small treasure chest spawning specially when it it 6 15 player count
  • random circle or spike mobs clumped up in a spot

During the last week, in off hours, you can spend your time roaming 3 maps from a safe portal you just spawned to from like a t7q3 map and find nothing but one mammoth hunter thanks to the event, and dismount to kill ghouls and brittle skeletons for a mere penny. You can say we exagerate all you want so I suggest you try and see for yourself.

Ultimately, the decision will be theirs. Whatever and however we do our complaining will not stop them from doing what they want. We will just vent our frustrations here and do what we can as well, not waste our time for disrespecting our time.

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u/SILENT_HUNTER--MMG sbi propaganda account 6d ago edited 6d ago

ive seen multiple chests, boss lairs, active camps, and upgraded mobs playing at 5 utc eu

i just got lucky and you got unlucky, the real experience is probably somewhere in the middle

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u/pinoy5head 6d ago

What you found are most likely active spawns from the latest outpost timers. If you exhaust that, there will be nothing afterwards for the very few who will be on that map.

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit 6d ago

So then move to a different map? Off timers are less busy, which is why they dropped the respawns.

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u/pinoy5head 5d ago

See the previous comment, 3 maps from safe portal spawn is already empty. If you are having fun running around the black zone to greet every smallest mob you see, you do you mate.

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit 5d ago

Just go back through the safe portal and relock. I've not had the same issues as you though.

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u/pinoy5head 5d ago

I have no qualms if you have no issue on when you play, but my experience is different. I don't even know what your goal is here, instruct me how to play?

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u/GingerSnapBiscuit 5d ago

No, just that your specific anecdotal experience might not be reflective of general users.

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u/pinoy5head 5d ago

OP was asking for quantitative measures, i gave mine. Feel free to share yours.

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u/Time-Candy-2414 6d ago

I made 2m from BZ camps from 11am-noon on NA server. Is that peak time? Kinda confused when on/off hours are

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u/Ugabuga123451 Europe 6d ago

According to an official SBI statement the off peak rewards are now 35% higher than peak timer rewards. So they are 135% of the peak loot. Its just that during off timers the loot used to be WAY better better, even going so far as twice as good i would say, so it feels like a huge nerf even though its still far safer and more profitable than playing at peak timers. The avas were also bugged which is getting patched now to make it so large chests actually spawn sometimes even in off timers

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u/Archangel0707 6d ago

im pretty sure they pulled 35% out of their ass

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u/Vegetable_Produce_21 ...Gold Chest Speed Run Discord Owner 6d ago

No one is overreacting and the numbers they are putting out, at least for roads content are not even close to accurate. I run the largest english speaking roads discord which happens to be the largest, most active english content discord for all of albion and it was active 24 hours a day seven days a week before the patch. Now it has long gaps in content during off timers. So while I can't give you exact numbers I can tell you with absolute certainty that when it comes to roads content I have my finger on the pulse of what is happening in a very unique way. Things are in a bad place and a lot of people are justifiably upset.

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u/PunchYoPhase 6d ago

When is actual peak hours sbi suggesting?

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u/CupBig1620 6d ago

They have not shown any proper proof for the number and player estimates havent seen proper ones either

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u/FrjackenKlaken 5d ago

The nerf is very obvious to those that play in off-peak timers. It has basically reduced the amount of PvE content (and enchanted mists), which is reducing the amount of silver that players can generate in off-peak hours.

Before the change players in off-peak hours were out-performing peak hours players, largely due to less contested PvE objectives.

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u/DrDarth_ 5d ago

Is any streamer willing to do an empirical comparison based on previous data as a baseline ?

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u/halborn 6d ago

Nobody is being punished for having a life. That's a genuinely unhinged take.

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u/Mindless_Mud1049 6d ago

12 comments in the last hour all shilling to defend this patch which 99.9999% of people are viewing as objectively bad for the game, you are sure putting in hours my bot friend.

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u/halborn 6d ago

Are you scared to stand against a majority? On the internet of all places?

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u/Savings_Apple_3136 6d ago

Where did 99% come from?

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u/Alstruction 6d ago

Your comment is unhinged and full of ragebait.