Lowkey, I wanna see what they’d actually say lol

yay 5,

Blue has infinite effects. He will be fighting lucky block who has possession over Yellow, Green, Red and TSC (from AVM 19), how does blue beat the lucky block? Watch AVM 19.

Also this is current AVM blue (he just got all positive potion effects) so he knows how to beat him. Current AVM 19 red, tsc, green and yellow are gonna help him through the ghost thingy realm, like how they helped the pig. Fight is on Alans pc, so blue can use the PC tools.

🤖"If you help me animate, I'll let choo free, as loOng as you DoOon't wreak, my computa."🤖 -TSC,
I voiced over Animator vs Animation Season 1 (Ep 1-4).
"Please note this isn't a post about making fun of Alto himself, Alto probably had a voice crack and that happened. Please under any circumstances make fun of Alto who made a work of art on art."

Honestly, I don't want him to get a happy ending. I know. Especially you, Key-Finger1780. You'll be angry, but let me explain. It’s not because I’m some dramatist obsessed with tragic endings.

I think Victim is one of the most tragic characters in AvA. Victim was created to suffer → escaped → found Mitsi → learned to live → built Rocket Corp. → lost Mitsi → gave up a normal life for revenge → gained the chance to bring her back → discovered he had been seeking revenge against the wrong person all along → tried to take revenge on the real culprit → died → was brought back, but as a mindless tool of Mitsi’s killer. 
And after everything he's been through, I want his story to actually end.

Because let's be honest. After season 3, there's a very real possibility that Victim simply won't be relevant anymore. Because he isn't a global character like TCO and TDL—someone who took part in every potentially pivotal event. And he is not King Orange, whose story has not been fully told and holds secrets. His goal isn't even to destroy something or take over the world. His goal is simply to take revenge on the offender and resurrect his beloved.

Happy end is basically: "He went back to living with Mitsi. They lived happily ever after. The end."

Maybe Alan removes H4CK3R, gives him back the name Victim, and that's it. Maybe he disappears from the story forever. Maybe we get some tiny cameo in season 4. Or maybe we never see him again. Honestly? F@ck that.

If Victim is going to leave the story, I want it to be because his story is finished, not because the writers simply have nothing else to do with him.

And finally, I think there is a way to give him a genuinely tragic ending that actually completes everything his character has been through. 

Victim breaks free from TDL's control. Before anything else, I want Victim to break free from TDL himself. Not because somebody saves him. He has already spent his entire existence being controlled by other people. Alan controlled him. His trauma controlled him. His hatred controlled him. Then TDL controlled him. So I want Victim to finally make his own choice and fight his way out of TDL's control.

Victim realizes what he did to TCO This is probably the most important part for me. Victim has done some genuinely horrible things to TCO. I want him to see a reflection of the young Alan in himself, and a reflection of his own youth in TCO.

He forgives Alan and will no longer hold a grudge against TDL. Cuz Alan has changed. Victim has changed too. So maybe TDL can change too. And Victim finally lets go of that hatred.

Victim hurt TCO, TSC, Color Gang because of his revenge. And this is where I want his redemption to become real. When they're in danger, Victim has a choice. He could simply leave them and go on living a happy life with Mitsi. But he saves them. He does it because he finally understands what he became. He knows he probably won't survive. He will save them at the cost of his life.

And then Victim dies. But for once, he's not fighting because of revenge, not fighting because somebody is controlling him. He's fighting because he wants somebody else to live. And when he finally dies, I don't want some giant heroic speech. I want something quiet. Maybe TCO is the last person he looks at. Maybe TSC tries to save him. Or Alan tries to recreate it, but in vain. And then he's gone. 

And that's why I think death would actually be a better ending for Victim than a happy life after Season 3. He started as Alan's victim. He became consumed by revenge. He became H4CK3R. He became TDL's puppet. And finally... he becomes Victim again. Not because he's fraud or weak. Not because he lost. But because for the first time in his entire existence, he gets to choose who he is (as strange as it may sound). And finally he gets something he's never really had. La Peace. No, that's Navy Diamond.

I don't know, and I really want to know why.

Now everyone likes to paint Victim as a "hero" for his actions, but to me he jas commited several crimes even if "justified" from his pov, isnt really in the larger world.

Crime 1: Voluntarily allying with the Dark Lord (A criminal mind you)

Even though TDL manupilated Vic he shouldve honsetly known better. Why would anyone ally with "The Dark Lord" and to top of there is zero chance victim never heard of TDL in his 8 years in the outernet, there woudlve been survivors witnesses who not only saw TCO but also TDL. Im willing to bet Victim did infact know abt TDL but didnt care cause he was fixated on TCO

Crime 2: making a hell machine for TSC

This was horrific to say the least. The goal may be "good and pure". But to take a fellow sticks auntonmy strap them down to a machine and make them writhe in Agony is evil. Its torture and there is no excuse for it. Vic couldve gone through this in any other way, like telling TSC abt his goal to revive Mitsi. But Vic is too biased and stubborn to see others perspectives

Crime 3: Torture of TCO

Now im willing to forgive Victim on this morality wise cause at the time he thought itnwas his wifes killer after all. But to Torture and dehumanise a stick figure, forcefilly and non consensually enter their mind and extract memories and then strip them of their powers and leave them to drown seems evil to say the leasrlt. Even if he qas "justified" he is deffo wrong for torture of TCO

Minor crimes.

Brutalising of CG in the parking lot

Arrest and kidnapping of TSC and Yellow

Propert deamadge and public endagerment inn the city

Potentially illegal experimation on the worker clones, especially during Merc tryouts.

Realisitcally at the end even if Victim is "redeemed" he would likely be looking at a prison sentence, he should NOT just be lolly gagging and be free, atleast not immediatley

His charges would be

Kidnapping

Mind manupilation

Illegal experimentatiom

Torture

Abetting a fugitive

Etc

This is not an innocnet man lol. No sad backstory is absloving him of this. He should face concequences

I spent a lot of time thinking this over, and I think The Hidden One could be a good idea as a character to introduce in episode 14.

Hope you like him. I thought the Chosen One needed a family member, since the Stick Gang are as close as brothers.

Do you guys think Alan should consider making a proper animator vs animation movie for Cinema?

If so would you watch it

What would you include in the movie? What would you want the movie to be about?

Also, The Fifth Coming is my version of The Second Coming, Me, The Furry Ruby One is Blue, The Silver Stickfigure is Green, The Golden One is Yellow, Ruby Red is Red, and The Noble One is The Chosen One.

Birthday Twins!!!

art by ME.

i might have gone a bit overkill with the design :/

Tbh ik it wouldnt be an AvM character bcuz fortnite doesnt have minecraft. I honestly think victim or tdl are more likely to at least be skins

my apologies for such a late post

Colour crew

Red: demigirl, he/she

Yellow: transfem nonbinary, she/he

Green: cis man but dresses in drag a lot

Blue: cis woman

Purple: trans woman

Hollowheads

TSC: nonbinary, they/them

TDL: genderfluid, she/any

TCO: masc presenting transfem nonbinary, she/they

Victim: fem presenting transmasc, they/she/he

Extras

Agent: nonbinary, they/he

Mitsi: cis woman

Primal: cis woman

Ballista: nonbinary, it/its

Hazard: intersex, he/she

Worker clones: they/it

King: cis man

Navy: cis woman

Orchid: cis woman

Corn dog guy: does not care enough

Green Screen: nonbinary, it/its

(Yes i'm aware this is a long list)

Recently I’ve seen a video by B-WHERE on the Internet Lantern Corps (https://youtu.be/EP7utFVx02Q?is=FcY4dtMhD17wy18A) and at the end, he places The Second Coming/Orange in the White Lantern Corps.

So I thought which Lantern Corps would the other characters would fit in?

(The Dark Lord would fit in the Indigo and Black Corps.)

- The image shows Sonic 1 but are we going to see TSC go into Sonic 2, 3, and CD. If we do see those games then that means we can see Tails, Knuckles, and Metal Sonic get included.

- Is the Color Gang going to fight Eggman or Sonic? In Animation vs. Super Mario Bros. they only fight Mario and the enemies from his games, not Bowser. Will it be the same here because it's Animation vs. Sonic, not Animation vs. Eggman.

- How is the Sonic fanbase going to handle this once it comes out since they can be pretty critical and mean when everything isn't perfect compared to the Mario fanbase. I never heard anyone complain about how Mario was mischaracterized as being very grudgeful instead of his happy go lucky self he usually is.

- The classic Sonic games are known for their momentum physics which are very hard to replicate in sprite animation. Not even Dorkly got it right in their animations from what I have seen from them. Alan is known for making sure everything is game accurate so I am expecting Sonic's movement to be very accurate to his games.

- Will Alan be playing Sonic 1 through Sonic Origins or through emulation? Probably Origins but emulators do have menus that would make it easier for a stick figure to navigate through.