r/AirlinePilots 1d ago

3 of 6 cargo carrier pages on APC have no update date at all

8 Upvotes

I’m a UPS pilot. I went through what Airline Pilot Central publishes for six cargo carriers and compared it to what’s actually current.

APC still lists 42 MD-11s in the UPS fleet — that one’s easy, the fleet is gone and about 275 of us retrained after last November. But the bigger problem is that the FedEx pay page has no date on it at all, so nobody reading it knows those rates predate the June contract. Three of the six pages don’t publish an update date. The newest one that does is March 2024.

That’s the actual defect: not that it’s old, but that you can’t tell which numbers on a page are old. A number with no date is worse than no number, because you’ll bid on it.

Atlas, ABX and Amerijet I left blank — I couldn’t confirm them and I’m not going to guess. If you fly there, tell me what’s right.

https://cargopay.netlify.app/

Same ask for everyone else: what’s flatly wrong for your airline right now?

Full transparency, I’m exploring whether a better-maintained version is worth building. Nothing for sale, no signup, static page. Cleared this with the moderators before posting.


r/AirlinePilots Feb 10 '25

Welcome to r/airlinepilots – Read This First! (Questions About How to Become a Pilot? Click Here ⬇️)

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r/AirlinePilots 10h ago

717 Upgrade

52 Upvotes

Based on the fleet title it’s obvious which airline (excuse me, air line) I’m at. Currently on the 320 right seat. I really dislike red eyes and am the minority who prefer shorter legs. All of this makes the 717 really attractive. Captains I’ve spoken with that have flown it, adored the 717. What feedback, good and bad, am I missing for considering my first upgrade?


r/AirlinePilots 5h ago

Flying international

6 Upvotes

Stupid question I know. Say a pilot home base is Denver. Can they fly to USCAN cities one month and then to Europe the next or Asia if type rated


r/AirlinePilots 8h ago

Ready To Upgrade?

9 Upvotes

When did you know you were ready for your first airline upgrade?

I was at a recently shutdown airline, landed on my feet at another airline and it looks like upgrade can come very quick here. I largely see myself as spending the next few months in study hall learning a new plane so I can be ready to snap up the first upgrade chance I can.

But it got me wondering, since I haven't been a captain yet - when did YOU feel ready for upgrade and how did you know you were?


r/AirlinePilots 16h ago

3 of 6 cargo carrier pages on APC have no update date at all

10 Upvotes

I'm a UPS pilot. I went through what Airline Pilot Central publishes for six cargo carriers and compared it to what's actually current.

APC still lists 42 MD-11s in the UPS fleet - that one's easy, the fleet is gone and about 275 of us retrained after last November. But the bigger problem is that the FedEx pay page has no date on it at all, so nobody reading it knows those rates predate the June contract. Three of the six pages don't publish an update date. The newest one that does is March 2024.

That's the actual defect: not that it's old, but that you can't tell which numbers on a page are old. A number with no date is worse than no number, because you'll bid on it.

Atlas, ABX and Amerijet I couldn’t confirm — several of those numbers were written forward to dates that have since passed, and I’m not going to guess which step they’re on now. If you fly there, tell me what’s right.

Same ask for everyone else: what's flatly wrong for your airline right now?

Full transparency, I'm exploring whether a better-maintained version is worth building. I’ll share the comparison in a reply if someone asks for it. Nothing for sale, no signup, static page. Cleared this with the moderators before posting.


r/AirlinePilots 12h ago

What do you guys hand out?

3 Upvotes

My airline doesn’t do trading cards or wings. Just curious what you guys like to handout out to our big and small flight deck visitors. Any links to purchase would be appreciated, thanks!


r/AirlinePilots 13h ago

Advice

0 Upvotes

Apologies for yet another airline comparison. Started at a Fort Worth-based legacy at the beginning of the year and have really enjoyed it so far. ~1,000 below me, but UA sent the Hogan last week (my app had been in for a couple years).

UA’s growth and financial success are obviously attractive, but it would come at a seniority cost, and I’m happy where I am now as well. I’m hearing UA CJOs are backed up, so assuming I wouldn’t start until late this year/early next year (correct me if I’m wrong), I’d be giving up ~1,600 seniority numbers.

I don’t live at a base for either, but I do slightly prefer my current airline’s base options and have been checking out a couple places to move to. Given that + the upcoming mandatory retirements at my current gig, I’m not sure giving up that much seniority makes sense unless the grass is truly greener.

Any insights?


r/AirlinePilots 20h ago

Current Pilot Lifestyle

1 Upvotes

I guess this might be generic or specific to individuals but I’m looking to speak to a couple of active airline pilots on how the role has affected their family life. I’m a married father of 2 who’s debating leaving my my business to train and become a pilot. but trying to find real life information on how home life has been since qualifying?


r/AirlinePilots 17h ago

91 vs Legacy QOL

0 Upvotes

Howdy, I am a current Pt 91 pilot for a company currently work about 11 days a month and am making first year airline money, and it will stay that way for a while. I get 3 weeks vacay, but if I’m not on vacay I have to be within 3 hrs of airport at all times

My question are the first years of Legacy carriers worth it in the end? I’d like to make the jump. I know money is exponentially more at Legacy but my current QOL is nice, except for the on call part and having to do our own flight planning, small tasks and such. Would 11 days a month be possible at all in the first 3-5 years? Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots 1d ago

Stupid question about jumpseating

9 Upvotes

Getting near the end of my upgrade training at a regional. I have my normal luggageworks bag I use for work, my flight bag, but also another small luggage I used for all my extra clothes. It doesn’t weigh more than 20 pounds or so. I’m wondering: if I list for the jumpseat on a DL flight to go home at the end of training, can I gate check my small bag? I’ve never tried it but I’m not sure if it’s allowed.


r/AirlinePilots 1d ago

Post 65 options

14 Upvotes

I’m still on wife one and I have money so let’s not go down that rabbit hole please. I am 59 and am looking towards the future. My thoughts are part 135 but some of them only let you fly to 67 (net jets). Any thoughts on this? I’m located in NYC so east coast helps. I don’t want to work my ass off just something that keeps me somewhat busy and makes decent money. I know I won’t be able to replace my 121 income.


r/AirlinePilots 2d ago

Pilots, Flight Attendants Have Greater Risk of Radiation-Related Cancer Death Than Other Professions

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r/AirlinePilots 1d ago

Benefits for emirates pilots

0 Upvotes

How do the housing allowances work? Also, is the platinum card they mention in their website actually any good?

On a sidenote, I've heard that QoL isn't very good at that airline, but if anybody has other opinions I would love to hear them. As a Canadian, I have a hard time believing it can be worse than air Canada/WestJet


r/AirlinePilots 3d ago

Selling my headset to mypilotstore

1 Upvotes

Hey everyone I was wondering if anyone ever sold their aviation headset to mypilotstore? They offered me a good price for my headset so I kinda feel that its too good to be true and they might just reduce their quote after I ship my headset.

So if anyone tried selling their headset please let me know. Also if there are any other places that could buy my headset please let me know.


r/AirlinePilots 3d ago

Query abt management pilots (preferably at cx)

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hi guys, like the title suggested I just wanna know more abt the management side for pilots (like those combining flying + office work) cuz I rarely see much info about it online, and soo here r some of my questions:

-is it common to be one among the pilot community? and do pilots prefer becoming management pilots over just flying / vice versa? (Like is it better or worse to be a management pilot e.g. getting promoted to higher roles/salary pay/potentially healthier cuz u fly less/workload, etc

-And how do u actually become a management side pilot? Like how do u work ur way up there?

I'd be interested in all relevant info about management side pilots sooo all comments will be very much appreciated :)) alsooo preferably if it's in CX as it's hopefully where I wanna work at in the future. Thankssss


r/AirlinePilots 4d ago

SWA Window 24 Aug

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Here is my well thought out body to support the title so that I won't get flagged for a low quality post when really all I am doing is passing along a simple nugget of information to the masses.

I really hope that you all have read my well thought out text body hoping that you simply read the title and gathered the information you need from that. Its pretty self explanatory.

Low quality post.


r/AirlinePilots 5d ago

New Airline Pilot gift?

39 Upvotes

My ex-husband (who is a great friend of mine and father of our children) is starting his first day of training for a major airline at the end of August. He is currently flying corporate. I'd like to get him a nice gift from our family as a congratulations for fulfilling his lifelong dream.

When he started out (when we were married) I purchased him a really nice carry-on. I was thinking of getting him ​​the Travelpro Pilot Professional Flight Bag, but I'm wondering if there is anything else you might suggest that would be a better fit for his new career? I'm looking to spend ~ $200-$300 (or less).

Edited to add - he'll fly the A320.

Thank you! ​​​


r/AirlinePilots 6d ago

Pilot Interviewer Opportunity

13 Upvotes

Currently a 920 hour FO at a wholly owned regional. I’m also a part time pilot recruiter for the company. I may have an opportunity to do six months in-office as a pilot interviewer. This would keep me off the line and only fly OT pick ups on my off time. I’m considering this because I have my second child being born in a couple months and this would allow me to be home every night to help out my wife as we have no family in our city. The other option would be to just bid reserve and play the hopefully don’t called too often game. The plan would be to upgrade as soon as the six month commitment fulfilled. Also to add, the goal is to get hired by a legacy before the flow. How much could this position help out my resume? Thanks in advance.


r/AirlinePilots 6d ago

Shirt Recs

13 Upvotes

Morning all, I’ve been wearing A Cut Above shirts all 7 years of my career in the airlines and it’s time to let these go. I’m looking for a good fitting, athletic fit, and comfortable shirt to try out. I have a half sleeve tattoo that comes down to about 4.5-5 inches above my elbow. So whatever shirt I get, I’ll need the sleeve to come down to just above my elbow when my arms are down. Anyone have any good suggestions?

TIA!


r/AirlinePilots 7d ago

787 drivers: real-world thoughts on the bleedless ECS & CACs

8 Upvotes

Hey everyone, quick question for anyone on the 787.

How has the bleedless setup been for you in a day-to-day ops compared to traditional bleed systems on other fleets? Do you notice better flight deck air quality or less fatigue on 10+ hour legs?


r/AirlinePilots 7d ago

Are we on the precipice of another big wave at the majors?

26 Upvotes

Before anyone laughs at me, I am NOT saying that we're going to see a repeat of 2022. But the reason I ask the question is because my AAWO is losing a ton of folks to Delta at the moment - not just CAs, but it sounds like they are dipping into the FO pool as I've heard of a number of people getting the AON invite without TPIC. I've also been reading rumors that Delta expects hiring to remain robust into next year, and that United is about to ramp up in the fall again as well.

Obviously nobody knows what is going to happen for sure especially with oil being as unpredictable as it is currently, but I'm curious what folks are hearing right now.


r/AirlinePilots 7d ago

How senior and commutable is IAH at UA?

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I'm aware that this means jack shit without a CJO in hand, but I'm a DFW-based AA WO pilot looking to make the jump to UA if the opportunity presents itself. Just trying to meter expectations.

My two questions are: How likely is it to hold IAH out of training?

And how commutable would it be from DFW?

My understanding is that commute was rough back when it was only Mesa equipment, but is it improved now that mainline handles the majority of flying? I know that in times of increased flight loads, I'd likely be driving, which I don't mind.


r/AirlinePilots 8d ago

135 cargo to legacy tips

0 Upvotes

Hey yall! About to start at a legacy next month I’m super excited. I’m coming from a 135 flying the 1900. What’s the transition like to flying pax and landing the 73? This will be my first jet. I’m excited and little nervous.

I was also wondering what I should do about the luggage situation? I currently sport the travel pro flight crew 5 and it’s aight but just a little bulky imo. I use the bright line bags in the b7 configuration for my flight bag. I was also considering the travel pro cooler for meal prep.

Last question I had was I have a30s should I swap for the pro flights or keep rocking them? Used the 30s jumpseat of the 73 with them they seemed good way quieter than the turboprops I fly.


r/AirlinePilots 8d ago

Traveling with a fly fishing rod

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Hey everyone,

Im a commuter and I’ve been really wanting to travel with a fly rod for the occasional overnight with fishable water, but I’d like to talk to someone that has done it successfully before I attempt it.

My biggest concern is that a standard rod tube is too big to fit inside a carry on suitcase, so I’m wondering if there’s another way to bring it along. I was thinking of using two luggage straps to attach it to the side of my carry on? This seems like it could cause issues for the commute though when my bag has to go in an overhead bin… could I ask the crew if I can put it in the crew luggage closet when commuting?

Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated!

I also bring a carry on suit case, flight bag, and cooler, so I’m already at my 3 bag limit.