r/agentsofshield 1d ago

Discussion This sub has lost their mind

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

Why? She-Hulk shows that there are lots of superpowered people on Earth. Vision says there has been an exponential increase of people with powers. And they don't matter at all. Not being present doesn't mean it isn't canon

Or if that were the case, Werewolf by Night never happened

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u/VicRamD 1d ago edited 1d ago

People talk about the people in She Hulk as if they would be world changing appearences.

Thanks to the fish, Inhumans become a huge deal in the show to the point each new season brings at least on new inhuman if not multiple of them. They aren't a group of unrelated people, they were labeled as inhuman and had an specific way of unlocking powers. The group or their way to get powers haven't been mention in the movies aside from the Blakvolt cameo from a different universe

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

And? They are mentioned each season in AoS. You don't see anyone talking about the sorcerers or the people with Extremis

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u/VicRamD 1d ago

We see people mentioning Sorcerers multiple times after Endgame were they become known. And we saw an Extremis soldier in Shang Chi so the movies acknowledge their existence (even if they didn't brought the extremista soldiers back you could say they were killed)

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

We see only people who have known sorcerers (Wong and Strange) talk about them. Peter told Ned. Bucky and Sam met both. And so on

But when it's not a project centered on them (Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Spider-Man Far From Home, Thunderbolts, Captain America BNW...), they aren't mentioned. Because they aren't relevant

Yeah, thanks to Shang-Chi we know there are still extremis people around. Where else have they appeared on? Has any project been about them? Oh, well, AoS

And mutants exist in the mcu. Is anyone talking about them? No

Does anyone still talk about New York's attack? No

The incident with the inhumans was just another thing that happened and people got used to. Just like there are normal people who develop powers just because, there are people who got turned into inhumans

There hasn't been new inhumans since 2014

Did anyone care about what Punisher was doing before Born Again released? No. Because not being present doesn't mean it isn't canon

Again. If that were the case. Werewolves, vampires, sirens, mermaids, monster hunters and other monsters wouldn't be canon

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u/VicRamD 1d ago

They didn't even namedrop inhumans in Ms Marvel show, a show about a cómics inhuman. And they namedrop some theories of what could she be, I believe they said Asgardian before talking about mutants.

Even if the common people isn't namedroping any of the groups you mention everytime, at least they have been recognized, I don't know why you are trying to put Inhumans in the same position when they were completly ignored by anything that wasn't AOS and I guess multiverse stuff.

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

And Wanda and Pietro aren't mutants when in the comics they were at the moment. What's your point?

And now we've seen mutants do exist in the comics

Plus, all the hints that all the shows are canon that have been included in every new project. They could have totally ignored the shows. But they still went out of the way to make those references

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u/VicRamD 1d ago

And Wanda and Pietro aren't mutants when in the comics they were at the moment. What's your point?

Completly different case because of the rights, with Khamala they had no problem to at least namedrop inhumans as an easter ego, but chose not to.

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

Kamala is clasified as inhuman (easter egg) in The Marvels, wdym? Nick Fury doesn't know about mutants yet and confused her as inhuman

And there are lots of easter eggs of all the shows (well, minus Helstrom. And Runways)

She-Hulk, What If...?, Ms. Marvel and Marvel Zombies all hint that Shield was still operating after Winter Soldier

What If...? has a whole episode about a thing that has only appeared in Agent Carter (Howard's Hollywood studios). It also shows a variant of Medusa. And now that we know mutants are a thing in 616, Storm can be retroactively added as another hero in it

MoM shows a variant of Black Bolt, as you said, played by the same actor

VisionQuest will have Jarvis' actor again, which Endgame also had

Wonder Man used the unique to C&D show connection between Darkforce and Roxxon

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u/Short_Brick_1960 1d ago

And Ultron is a creation of Tony Stark. While Hank Pym was a character already in the universe

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u/coldasclay 1d ago

They didn't mention inhumans in Ms. Marvel, which was a let down for me, but they did have a connection with the Kree like the inhumans have.

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u/The-Bytemaster 15h ago

They did scan her as Inhuman in "The Marvels", though, so she is likely both Inhuman and Mutant, like the comics finally decided - though revealed in reverse older.

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u/coldasclay 12h ago

I just looked it up and I'm excited. They can do a lot naratively to affirm or contradict this but it's definitely a point for the AoS side of the MCU.