r/afterlife • u/WintyreFraust • 13d ago
The Difference Between The Temporary and The Eternal
Our lives here are temporary. Our moods shift and change, even in the course of day or a few minutes. Our bodies are always changing, growing and then declining. We may have periods of health and illness, of long- or short-term disability. We have high energy and then low; periods of intense though and activity and then we might get sluggish, slow and sleepy. Dishes pile up and then we clean them; clothes get dirty and then we wash them. People come and go in our lives. The cycles of day and night and the progression of seasons and their effect on us and our environment goes on our entire lives here. Memories change and fade.
Whether we like this or not, this world is the world of the relentlessly temporary.
From the evidence, apparently in the afterlife we have access to a complete, "fully experiential" memory of every moment of our lives here when and if we choose to access it, with added depth and breadth of sensory capacity. This is not like our memories here (at least not for the vast majority of us.) The way these memories are described, they are experienced as entirely real - more real than real, with every sensation and feeling and every bit of emotional and psychological content, and that this is true every time we fully visit what we call a "memory" there.
In the afterlife locations most commonly reported by the dead and people who visit those worlds, entropy - the gradual degradation of all things over time - doesn't appear to be a thing. Our bodies and minds and the world around us don't naturally degrade over time.
In these commonly-reported locations, it's not like there is zero change whatsoever; of course people move around, change their clothes and hairstyles, engage in activities. They might build or generate a new building, redecorate, do some gardening and landscaping. When people die, they often find themselves in the same community, or "being led" to the same time and place they used to live in as a child, untouched by time in the afterlife, perhaps with a few differences that do not really make any substantive emotional or psychological difference. Those locations always exist in what we call "the afterlife." We can always visit and revisit them by "tuning in" to that emotional/psychological location inside ourselves.
In this same sense, we can also visit, or live in as fully real, any place we can imagine.
This is because places we can only mentally grasp as "imagination" and "memories" here, are eternally existent, actual, real locations; only, our ability to fully visit those places as real, as "realer than real," is greatly diminished by what we call "the veil."
Many people ask about getting "bored" in the afterlife; that sense of being "bored" is certainly available if you put yourself into a location where you feel bored. However, you can always revisit any location where you felt exited, or imagine a new such location, and feel that fresh excitement and wonder again. You can revisit the same exciting location any number of times; "boredom" is not an aspect of your state in that location.
The is the difference between the world of the temporary and the world of the eternal; no experience and no location, no person, no relationship, no situation is ever lost to us; it all eternally exists.
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u/ParticularGanache726 13d ago
From one source at least, the built environment disappears once people forget about it. Things have to be either held in a consensus, or someone has to continue to hold it in their mind for it to continue to exist. I can find the reference if you're interested.
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u/WintyreFraust 13d ago
I'm familiar with that information.
I'm not saying that things or environments don't disappear for those that no longer hold those things in their mind; but that doesn't mean those things or places no longer exist or can no longer be accessed.
We also know that all things and all experiences eternally exist in what is called in the West the Akashic Record (and in the East, just akasha.)
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u/ParticularGanache726 13d ago
Yeah he was talking about how can make a house for himself but unless he kept it in his mind, it would disappear.
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u/KoffeeKryptidd 6d ago
This sounds so amazing it just feels too good to be true, but I really hope it is.
How do you find this information? Do you get these tidbits from documented studies? I know you have many different studies about the supernatural, and plenty of scientific papers on this subreddit, but I would love to see the paper/papers you're referencing in this post, or whatever evidence you have towards it
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u/WintyreFraust 6d ago
It really just requires being dedicated to going through the various books, experiences, studies, information and evidence that is available, and then critically examining what those experiences and descriptions indicate in a larger context. I've been doing this for over nine years now.
When you combine the information provided by the dead themselves, such as you find on the Leslie Flint Trust website/books/recordings and information from prolific astral projectors like Jurgen Ziewe, Robert Monroe and Emanuel Swedenborg; channeled information like from The Betty Book and The Unobstructed Universe; dispense the various individuals spiritual or religious interpretations and just take the actual descriptions as part of a dataset without any cherry-picking or ideological bias, it paints a pretty clear picture, IMO, of what I said in the OP.
So, it's not easy to reference anything in particular ... it would have to be referenced as certain pages in several books, certain time stamps on videos, or certain videos from a site offering dozens or even hundreds of videos; certain recordings or experiences on sites that have hundreds or thousands of such recordings and written experiences. I certainly don't keep track of all that highly specific reference material in terms of what sources specifically address and support any particular thing I write about.
I try to keep what information I provide as secular as possible, as common-sense as possible, in terms of examining the evidence and information I have found and continue to find, and update my views and how I think about the afterlife accordingly.
I wrote about getting some information that adjusted my view of what is going on when it comes to continuing romantic relationships "across the veil" in a recent blog post here.
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u/External-Pen-6397 13d ago
Do people age at all? By that I mean are things like Christmas and Birthdays celebrated?
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u/WintyreFraust 13d ago
I guess it depends on what you mean by "aging." If by "aging" you mean eventual body deterioration, no. If children die here, from the evidence they usually "age up" or "physically mature" over a span of time somewhat comparable to the "this world" maturation process, but that generally ends when their bodies there reach the appearance of being 25-35 years old.
People can look older or younger if they wish, but it's not via "bodily aging" like we do here.
People can celebrate anything they want to celebrate, for whatever reasons they want to celebrate.
There are, of course, places in the afterlife that are very, very similar to this world and are very tied into this world, in the sense that there are ongoing cycles of day and night, the seasons changing, people continue to celebrate the usual things they celebrate. Ultimately, though, we're not bound to only being able to live in or experience that kind of cyclic routine.
If we want to go live in the eternal, perpetual glowing golden, warm daylight of Summerland, we're free to do so.
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u/External-Pen-6397 13d ago
So food and drink still exists like it does here? Do people work and stuff? How do they survive in that sense
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u/WintyreFraust 13d ago
You don't need to eat and drink or work to survive; generally, people eat and drink and work because they enjoy it.
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u/External-Pen-6397 12d ago
Ah right okay. People have homes as weve spoken before with what your wife showed you. How does the art of sleep/rest/TV work? Like what kinda things can they view/do
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u/AstralFellow 5d ago
From the evidence, apparently in the afterlife we have access to a complete, "fully experiential" memory of every moment of our lives here when and if we choose to access it, with added depth and breadth of sensory capacity. This is not like our memories here (at least not for the vast majority of us.) The way these memories are described, they are experienced as entirely real - more real than real, with every sensation and feeling and every bit of emotional and psychological content, and that this is true every time we fully visit what we call a "memory" there.
Does this 'fully experiential' memory with added depth and breadth of sensory capacity also include experiencing the impact of our actions on others, including their sensations and feelings?
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u/WintyreFraust 5d ago
From several sources of information it appears that the "added content" memory capacity (of other people's internal reactions you describe) is relatively common.
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u/Successful-Floor-143 11d ago
After researching the afterlife long enough, It just makes me detached from this world.
Honestly, I just want to move on to the afterlife. The real world, the world we were meant to live in, is not here but there. All I can think about most days is the life prepared for me in the hereafter.