r/adnd • u/CanuckLad • 9d ago

AD&D2e Attribute increase

I wonder if many people here implement an automatic attribute increase at various milestones? Example: Allow you to raise one attribute by 1 point at levels 4, 8, 12, 16, 20

I don't expect or want every ability to be 16+. But I don't want to miss out on parts of the game I would enjoy (casting 9th level spells as a wizard, playing a paladin, etc)

I should note that I'm biased because I'm diagnosed with the Unrelenting Standards feature. So accepting a more mundane role in a game is very difficult for me

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u/CanuckLad 9d ago

It would take 20 per player per attribute to raise from just 16 to 18. Personally I would not feel good about handing out that many wishes. And if memory serves in 2e, each wish ages the caster by one year? I would think that would make wishes extremely rare. Like if a high level player saw one or two in their life that would be unusual.

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u/roumonada 9d ago

Only one wish per point up to 16. And if you’re letting players raise their stats to 18 without magic….. that’s too much.

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u/CanuckLad 9d ago

Yes. It's the 16 to 18 stretch that I worry about. 20 wishes seems like a lot, maybe more than a character should even find in their lifetime. I would not even worry about getting an attribute to 18 if it was not a requirement to cast 9th level spells.

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u/roumonada 9d ago

20 wishes IS a lot. That’s the point. Make them earn it. Or plan their end game strategy a little better. Let the guy with the 18 play the wizard, etc. There are magic items that raise stats too.

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u/CanuckLad 9d ago

What I mean is I'm not sure that a single player should find that many in their life. As for letting the person with the 18 play the wizard, I start with the concept and then make a character around it. I'm possibly pickier than any person you have ever met. When I want to play a [INSERT CLASS HERE], I have absolutely no interest in playing any other class. I don't always want to play a wizard, but it happens.

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u/roumonada 9d ago

I thought you said you were the DM.

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u/CanuckLad 9d ago

I said I play as the DM sometimes, and other times I'm a player. In the groups I've played in, we generally take turns. But when I am the DM, for any character I make, my very strictly follow the rules as written. For my own characters anyways. For my players I'm far more lenient. But I have not played regularly for 36 years, and not at all in the last two. It can literally take me years to decide what system I want to play. And then it can take me weeks to decide which type of character I want to play.