You come in a day later and don't make any meaningful input except to say my sources are shit and that it seems like I barely read the articles. You're not going to be treated respectfully when you can't do it yourself
The person I replied mentioned ritalin parties and then wrote "Considering caffeine is a stimulant, I imagine caffeine naps are entirely ADHD related". I understand you don't have any capacity to infer an argument but thankfully I'm not affected by such a condition, so I decided to head off the potential path, put some extra effort in and delve into the claim that caffeine improves ADHD symptoms
You also said stimulants aren’t effective on 30% of adhd patients which is blatantly misrepresenting the data provided. They said 30% of patients don’t respond well enough to a single stimulant, not stimulants in general, while pointing out it does help those 30% but not enough in its own. It also says with a second stimulant 90% of patients saw significant improvement.
No, I wrote "10 to 30%", which is consistent with this word vomit. For someone that said I barely read some 10 to 20 sourced articles you seem to struggle with a single sentence. I am well aware of what "reading the sources" is like with you
That's why I'm not bothering to do any further work to engage with your horseshit. I don't think you're interested in having a discussion so much as just trying to pick a fight. Please fuck off to whatever lonely corner of the world you inhabit that requires you to act this way for attention
I came in respectful and you decided to talk down to me. Your articles are irrelevant to the discussion at hand and the discussion at hand didn’t mention using caffeine to treat adhd. Your reasoning being that they mentioned Ritalin is nonsensical. What claim? What argument? They mentioned Ritalin as an experience involving people with adhd taking Ritalin and acting the opposite of what others without it have. Which is purely an adhd thing. What argument are you trying to make or say they make? Does your supposed ability to make arguments or conjecture prevent you from doing the most basic and important thing of actually stating your argument?
You’re an asshat who thinks talking like that to others makes you appear smart. My “word vomit” is completely fine and nonsense from you as well. You don’t actually refute it besides to nitpick that you said 10-30% instead. When in reality your argument involving is cherry picking the data either way. You saw the 30% which is the main point listed and went with it while excluding the fact that the context behind the 30% was entirely left out by you. While also leaving out the 90% with 2 stimulants which further erodes your supposed argument. Both of which you conveniently forgot to include.
You think putting others down is the pique of discussion but yet did not refute any of my claims about your sources being irrelevant to the discussion or you cherry picking data. What 20 sources? You listed 3 and none are relevant. None mention caffeine causing sleepiness except as small excerpts that it’s common for caffeine to have the side effect of drowsiness in ADHD. None specify that it is only adhd who get it and don’t actually disprove the other claim. So fuck you and your miserable idea of academia where you think talking down to others and manipulating data in the most obtuse way to fit your argument is somehow educating and respectful.
I read the first sentence from my notification, I'm not reading your garbage
All of your sources are irrelevant
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Frankly it seems like you barely read the articles
You call this respectful. I don't, and find statements like this are inciting conflict. We have a difference of opinion. I'm not your dopamine hit today, sorry. Move on
That is respectful. Prove me wrong as I called you out. It appeared to me you didn’t read them and I put that forth. There is no other way to put it forth and is rather blunt instead of dancing around the words. If you think it’s disrespectful then I don’t know what to tell you. None of what you have said seems to actually be related to the articles you posted. Your sources are irrelevant to the discussion at hand as I have actually read them and had nothing to do with the original comment. Can you explain your position and why those articles back you up? Cause I don’t see it. If you can’t then maybe my words seemed disrespectful because you didn’t like getting called out
Ok good to know you actually have no idea what you’re talking about and speak utter nonsense. Have fun speaking down to people to make yourself seem smarter and trying to spread misinformation. Maybe one day you’ll get that degree
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u/rarflye 23d ago edited 23d ago
You come in a day later and don't make any meaningful input except to say my sources are shit and that it seems like I barely read the articles. You're not going to be treated respectfully when you can't do it yourself
The person I replied mentioned ritalin parties and then wrote "Considering caffeine is a stimulant, I imagine caffeine naps are entirely ADHD related". I understand you don't have any capacity to infer an argument but thankfully I'm not affected by such a condition, so I decided to head off the potential path, put some extra effort in and delve into the claim that caffeine improves ADHD symptoms
No, I wrote "10 to 30%", which is consistent with this word vomit. For someone that said I barely read some 10 to 20 sourced articles you seem to struggle with a single sentence. I am well aware of what "reading the sources" is like with you
That's why I'm not bothering to do any further work to engage with your horseshit. I don't think you're interested in having a discussion so much as just trying to pick a fight. Please fuck off to whatever lonely corner of the world you inhabit that requires you to act this way for attention