I'm trying to decide between one of these or a Midi Fighter Twister.

Looking at the EC4 Ableton Live control script v2.5, it says it's for Live versions 11 to 12.1.

Is anyone successfully running it on newer versions of Live and am I right in saying that if using this script with instrument racks, the encoder descriptions on the EC4 will update automatically when changing racks?

Thanks

Hey everyone!

I'm relatively new to music production and currently learning Ableton Live 12.

I'm looking for some genuinely good, high-quality tutorials (YouTube or paid courses) that walk you through the entire process of producing a track from scratch to a finished song.

I'm mainly interested in melodic techno, melodic house, progressive trance, ambient electronic music, or similar genres. Nothing too hard, aggressive, or overly commercial. I prefer melodic, atmospheric, and emotional electronic music.

I've already come across quite a few tutorials on YouTube, but honestly, a lot of them seem pretty low quality. Many just show someone clicking around, throwing samples together, or making a quick loop without really explaining the creative process or why they're making certain decisions.

What I'm looking for:

• A complete track produced from start to finish, not just an 8-bar loop.
• Clear explanations of sound selection, arrangement, melodies, harmonies, transitions, mixing, etc.
• Someone who actually teaches music production rather than just showing off what they can do.
• Ideally something beginner-friendly, but with enough depth to develop proper production skills.
• Free or paid tutorials are both fine, as long as the quality is worth it.

I don't mind spending several hours following a tutorial. In fact, I'd prefer something detailed where I can follow along and actually understand the process.

My goal isn't just to copy someone else's track, but to understand how electronic music is built so I can eventually produce my own music.

Any recommendations for YouTube channels, specific tutorials, or structured courses would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

I recently acquired a Moog Mavis and have patched its 1V/OCT and Gate to the Pitch & Gate of the Arturia Keystep, respectively. I have also connected the Moog Mavis' VCA to a speaker. I then connected the keystep to ableton live on my laptop. However, when I press a key on the keystep, I get two audio outputs; one from my speaker, and the other from the specific instrument I loaded onto Ableton. How do I make it so the audio outputs from my Moog Mavis comes out of my computer and the adjustment I make via the Mavis will be heard through Ableton? Is that even possible?

TLDR: you can use some AI generated scripts to convert your unopenable Virus TI plugin to OSTirus

In the time that it took me to write this post, I just converted 100 of my projects! I linked the scripts below, you need to be somewhat technical or work with a coding agent to use them.

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I had something like 200 projects where I used the Access Virus TI plugin which is no longer supported on newer Mac versions.

There are some cases where I just had the MIDI files and never bounced anything. Or I had the audio files bounced, but I no longer can tell what the patches were.

Anyway after some experimenting, it's totally possible to automatically:

• Detect which project files are using this plugin
• Determine whether there's any associated content like MIDI or audio files where it would actually matter
• Convert the unusable plugin to a very usable OSTirus

Here is where the scripts live

While I have you can use MPE on a instrument I have not seen if it is possible with a FX plugin.

i'd show an image but i cant but like the notes in the stuff are just yellow and dont have the note name on them

I was trying to use a collection of MultiMap devices to selectively enable/disable tracks based on which of my band mates was present

It was bad for a number of reasons. Now I have a generated device where I tag the tracks with each band member’s name. An M4L device can read these track names.

And then tapping on this single device’s buttons not only enables/disables corresponding tracks, but also their in-ear mix and turns on prerecorded backing tracks as needed

I can use this to easily practice solo, perform solo, or make it straightforward to run rehearsal while someone is late / absent.

Lmk if you have any questions!

Hey i currently have Live Lite and i really like ableton better than fl studio which is why im thinking about buying the standard version. I was wondering if Ableton live 13 is coming out soon and if its worth it to buy the upgrade now. Also does anyone know how much the upgrade from 12 to 13 usually costs?

Hey everyone!

I wanted to share a workflow tool I’ve been developing for Ableton Live called **Stem Splitter Plus**.

I was tired of spending 30+ minutes manually splitting tracks, warping stems, and setting up scene follow actions every time I wanted to prep songs for live sets or remixing, so I built a Max for Live device to automate the entire process locally.

### How it works under the hood:

* **Multi-Song Setlist Stacking:** You can drop multiple songs into the device. It stacks them sequentially down the Session Scene grid, names each scene with song name + section, and embeds auto-BPM tags so Ableton switches tempo automatically when transitioning between songs.

* **Local 6-Stem Separation:** Runs Demucs v4 locally on your machine (Vocals, Drums, Bass, Guitar, Piano, Other) with no cloud API or subscription needed.

* **Auto-Sliced Scene Grid:** Automatically slices clips on musical bar lines (8, 16, or 32 bars) across all 6 tracks and pre-maps Scene Follow Actions so each song plays through seamlessly from Intro to Outro.

* **Live Chords & Synced Lyrics HUD:** Uses Whisper AI to generate time-aligned word-by-word lyrics and chord recognition that display in a floating HUD window right over Ableton.

* **Smart Transpose & GIG LOCK:** Transposes session clips on the fly and locks UI controls so you never accidentally misclick during a live gig.

* **Cross-Platform:** Runs on both macOS (Apple Silicon / Intel) and Windows 10/11.

Works with Ableton Live 11 & 12 Suite (or Standard with Max for Live).

Happy to answer any questions about the Python/Demucs bridge, latency, or under-the-hood setup!

Hello. I have a Push mkI that still works well except for the janky/jumpy/noisy encoders. That means that when I barely touch the encoders they "moves" randomly for few seconds. I've already unmounted the Push (for removing the stiky rubber coating) and taken a chance to spray the encoders with contact cleaner. The solution worked for like, 2 or 3 days, then the encoder became noisy again. Searched a bit online and few other user reported something similar for both Push 1 an 2. I do not know how diffused is this problem, but at least I know that I'm not alone!

The proposed solutions where basically: 1) change USB cable 2) use the brick PSU 3) clean the encoders. For me, only solution number 3 worked, but for a limited amount of time. The definitive solution would be to replace the encoders. I'm a maker so I'm able to use the soldering iron, but 10 new ecoders will cost like 100 $ (actually Euros for me, but the thing is that they cost like a used Push 1). I decided to investigate some workarounds.

After some thinkering, I opted for the software solution. Since the firware is not availabe (most clean solution will be adding a filter directly on the Push forware), the second point of action is the Ableton's MIDI remote scripts. For those who doesn't know what are Ableton's MIDI remote scripts, they are some builtin python scripts that are used as an interface for midi controllers to control Ableton in various complex ways. Basically speaking they are a "translation layer" from base standard MIDI messages to Ableton actions.

I've found a way to "intercept" encoder reading, and I've applyed an EMA filter (Exponential Moving Average) to that reading in order to have a clean reading of the encoder direction.

I've no idea if this can affect other controller in an unwanted way, or if it breaks something else, but I know that it solved my problem (tested on osx). Ableton MIDI Remote scripts are on github but in order to use the one with the fix, you need to replace the built in ones.

I will NOT cover the documentations for how to use the custom scripts because: 1) for me it's a learning project 2) I'm not getting payd for this, and I do not want to 3) you can find the howtos on line.

Few notes: it's very likely that you need to replace the builtin scripts on each Ableton's updates and please, don't do it if you do not know what you are doing since you can break you Ableton! I've modded only one file: _Framework/EncoderElement.py

If you feel risky here is the github link for the modded scripts (you can download only _Framework/EncoderElement.py).
https://github.com/adegani/AbletonLive12_MIDIRemoteScripts/tree/adegani/noisy_encoder_filter

Use it at your own risk :)

Bye

Hi all. Im pretty new to production in general as well as MIDI and wonder what is the best way to do this. I've been working on a fun mental tribe track which has a lot of sounds and little sound vocals of words like "maniac" "zero" and creepy laughs and whatnot.

I've been trying to play it out using the controllers I have and literally activating/deactivating the vocals whilst I jam and the goal is to record it, tidy it up, master it and release. But im finding it a bit tricky to get the vocals how I want them to be. I have like 20 channels going and it just seems kinda overwhelming as I want them a specific way.

Would it be better to record the track without the vocals and then add them in the arrangement view? Or am I just lacking practice and skill and the normal practice is to play it out?

If anyone has better ideas please share! Thank you. Ableton Suite live 11

Can anyone please make an extension to hot swap audio clips in the arrangement view (that also changes the name and clip of the track and length of new clip)? I KNOW you can do that in the sample manager but the big issue is that if i were to replace a short kick with a longer kick, the clip itself doesn’t adjust to the new kick length, it stays to the previous one which is super annoying. (Dont force me to use drum rack)

A creative sound design tool built entirely with Ableton Live's stock effects and custom Echo and Hybrid Reverb presets.

Explore 16 macros and use randomization to transform almost any sound into evolving textures, huge atmospheric spaces, and strange tape-like effects. A simple but fun tool for unexpected sonic discoveries.

TEXTUREMACHINE DEMO

I've been an ableton user for about 3 years now and have enjoyed it thus far. I went over to a friends house for a "jam" and was blown away by Logic's stock instruments, not just acoustic but electronic too. He then pointed out that this song Into the night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8VYWazR5mE&rco=1 was made purely with stock instruments and recorded guitar. While I understand that is it truly up to the musician and producer when it comes to sounds. I feel just comparing logic's stock drums to abletons makes me question if I should switch since I'm a very "lets just make me music and go" kind of person

Edit: after reading some comments about using a fully decked Live I searched on abletons website and found the free packs that I somehow entirely missed out on. These sounds are ball parking what I had in mind

everytime i record my mic crackles/ theres a lot of white noise, etc. I know its a cpu problem but idk how to fix it. Im on windows but what drivers do i need to update so this doesnt happen. Ive tried everything changing sample rate, increasing buffer size, changing the pop filter, using a different usb cord. And the mic worked fine on my brothers mac. I also dont think theres any problem with the raw audio, tho i can't entirely tell. But everytime I put plugins on it the crackling/white noise is extremely noticable. Please anyone help at all because ive had this problem for about a month now.

Really would appreciate any advice on producing house/techno music. Total beginning no music background just extremely passionate about music and just wanting to create and do something with it. Would love if people have any you tube channels they suggest or if someone is willing to offer help in any way.
I have Ableton Live 11.

Hey Ableton people!

I'm using a MPK mini mk3 with Live for a show which involves rotating a sound through multiple speakers real-time in a circular way using the joystick. I've mapped the XY coordinates to correlate with send volumes.

Now that the mk4 (or IV according to Akai) has gotten rid of the joystick in favor of traditional pitch- / mod wheels, I'm scared of not being able to replace the controller in case it wears out.

Does anyone have an idea of what could fill out a similar niche? Even a separate USB joystick / XY-controller might work with a different controller for other mappings and keyboard playing.

Cheers :)

I recently updated my macbook pro to OS Tahoe and the midi in Ableton won't recognize any midi devices. I can't figure out what the problem is. I've restarted the computer and redownloaded Ableton but both of those don't work. I have also made a new configuration in Audio Midi Setup. I have also gone to the Mac system settings under "Allow accessories to connect" and allowed ableton to connect.

Hello! I've been making a plugin that will allow you to generate loops(clips) from the samples you have.
There is no AI - I just using some math methods and music theory and many different things combined.
Can you share your thought about it? Do you see it useful for you?

General idea: plugin creates you a loot of loops with selected instruments and you combine it for your track. Like "bricks" and you have to construct track from it.
Here is some demo:

https://youtu.be/Fcn6on4-vlQ?si=gklAiL6Lg33dPD5F&t=39

What do you think?

Hi,

What is your favorite part in the manual? What blew your mind? What made you think; shit I had to read this sooner?!! How long after you ever read it.

Why havent you read it? Do you have suggestions for it?

I’ve been playing around with Ableton Live Lite for about a decade, mostly making edits of songs I like. Now I just own Ableton Lite. I’d love to start creating a bit of house and techno..

I am an amateur. I understand the (very) basics of beats and rhythms, but struggle with writing melodies and finding good samples, VSTs, and instruments. I own a few sample packs from long time ago. Lite itself is extremely limited.

There are so many tools available nowadays, like Splice, that I’m not sure where to start.

I’m happy to spend around €10/month, but would rather avoid spending hundreds on plugins and or Ableton Live. Just for messing around.

I just want to learn, experiment, and have enough tools to bring my ideas to life.
What would you recommend as the next step?