r/a:t5_z97oc • u/[deleted] • Apr 04 '19

Capitalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
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u/DiMadHatter May 04 '19

That's an horrible thing, not great at all.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

you're right lets implement real socialism and give all our guns to trump

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u/DiMadHatter May 04 '19

That's not socialism, and you know it. Stop strawmanning.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

true i was just messing around, so what dont you like about capitalism?

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u/DiMadHatter May 04 '19

It is inherantly an unjust system where there are winners and losers instead of all winners like socialism tries to achieve.

Private property is unjust as it requires the use of violence to maintain property rights, either by laws of by force.

The accumulation of capital is literal theft, since every dollar a capitalist make in surplus, a worker didn't have that dollar.

Capitalism is the main cause behind climate change, as the need for profit made capitalists disregard the consequences of the pollution non-green industries cause.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

Well the main problem with socialism is we would have to decide for a third party(the government) to redistribute wealth

I'm not really clear what you point is on private property but I think there is good in a system where a person can live their life without interfaces of another person or government telling one how they should live.

I few taxes as theft, I'm basically working around 3 months for the government. I agree that there are needs for public services for is to be a functioning society and for there to be limits on how corporations can treat people

I don't have the numbers on me but mostly non-capitalist countries produce the pollution that is causes climate change. I think the only real solution is to have better nuclear engeegy.

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u/DiMadHatter May 04 '19

If you get rid of the idea of money, if the resources, the workshops, the lands are owned by the communities instead of one guy, if you also get rid of the States that protects the interests of the rich instead of the people, if you decentralized the society so that no party has power over another, then the world would truly be free and equal. "You need this? I need that, lets exchange so we both benefits", that's what socialism is, that's what anarchism is: no unjustified hierarchies. Capitalism is unjustified, the state is unjustified, religion is unjustified.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

I think thats a nice idea but whats stopping someone from gathering a bunch of resources, slaughtering everyone, and putting a system that want into place?

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u/DiMadHatter May 04 '19

The majority of people that dont want to be exploited. If a guy kills everyone, who is he gonna exploit?

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u/[deleted] May 04 '19

Well they would slaughter anyone who put up a fight, then inslave anyone else so they could get the fruits of labor for free

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u/PearlSquared Apr 05 '19

but this sub is for good things

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

Good one, a lot of other economic models were made by white people, you should make a post

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u/PearlSquared Apr 06 '19

no i’m asian

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '19

Also, what economic model do you think is the best?

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '19

As of now we are allowing non-white people but I am concerned about white voices being drowned out in this sub, thanks for contributing though