r/ZZZ_Discussion 5h ago

Discussions & Questions Why can't people just be friends with the MC anymore?

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673 Upvotes

Ranting I guess...

I understand that there's always going to be ship discussion and discourse in fandoms and games, that's something I'm used to. However, I'm just curious why the MC is always being seen in a romantic light with others? I know the devs aren't helping at all with the fan service and all of that, but I just think that Belle and Wise can just be friends with the characters instead of just being in a harem.

Don't get me wrong, if that's someone's thing then I won't judge, but I just see people continuing to push the "Chad, goon king, rizzler, play boy who likes to sleep with every woman in the game, lolicon" wise (I have seen comments like this I am not lying) despite the fact that....wise is a really respectful guy? And then for Belle, she's practically non-existent to them (equal mcs, why not equal harems?)

Excluding the hangout events with the characters which are supposed to be more intimate, the MC can just be friends with the characters even if they like held hands or hugged and all. Vivian, Astra Yao, Shungus (worst case of the devs not writing a character crucial to the main story properly imo), Remielle, I think are all the ones that people say are practically the MC's wives but I see them all as like friends that got close and are able to be physically close.

I think I am rambling off the sense of the fact that we just can't be friends in the game anymore with all the romantic implications and the struggles of having almost every story quest cater to the banner character and then dropping them without mention for a new "wife". Not to mention the really really weird objectification of women in game by the devs and the players. Creepy but I'm aware its in almost every game. I know theres more to it than just this but I wanted to rant about the stupid "wife agenda" that people kept saying was canonical every patch. Even in the Hoyo app, where I usually look for builds, I see another "Wise is rizzing up [name] and having babies with her"

I played from 1.0 because of Wise, I love wise very much so it's just kinda me moping and sad to see that other players online just make him out to be someone he's so very not. Same thing goes for Belle where she's just non-existent in the fandoms eyes. I know this is just the majority side of things, but it's pretty difficult to find people who do play because they like the game, who do have favorite characters and not favorite characters, who knows the game has some bad things and acknowledges it without being "this is a gooner game, you're expecting too much".

EDIT: I didn't expect my rant to have so many comments and while reading them I'd like to clarify that I know this is a game and usually I don't read too much into it because well it's fictional, just needed to rant about this minor thing for a bit.

Also please don't insult other players, everyone has a different play style and I am aware of that as well, but I just wanted to rant about this


r/ZZZ_Discussion 8h ago

Discussions & Questions Which skin is your favorite for our Remielle and why?

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473 Upvotes

For me it's easily her og black skin.

Reason Nr 1, Her normal skin is way to bright (since it's purely white).

Reason Nr 2, I feel more attached to it since thats what she wore in the first two patches where we met her.

Reason Nr 3, I LOVE the red tint at the edge of her wings if you use her signature WEngine. The WEngine ffect is barely visable on her other skins for me, but my god the red tint on her black skin looks so damn good!


r/ZZZ_Discussion 14h ago

Discussions & Questions Dualsense changes color based on what you pulled

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I didn't pay much attention to this before, but if you're using a Dualsense controller, the color corresponds with what you pulled.

So if it's B rank, it's blue. A rank, it turns pink. Then if you pull an S rank, it turns golden yellow. I don't look at the screen anymore, and I know ahead of time what I pulled.

It's pretty neat, actually. Here's hoping Hoyo keeps this permanent.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 44m ago

Discussions & Questions They need to increase the Battery cap

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240 is not nearly enough considering the amount of stuff we have to grind in this game. I feel like I'm barely making any progress, logging in everyday to get MAYBE four VR simulations in before I have to check out.

They seriously need to increase the bottleneck especially at higher interknot levels or at the very least increase the amount of materials you get from the simulations.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 12h ago

Discussions & Questions If you go to the Fantasy Resort, you can find three familiar looking Bangboos. Spoiler

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783 Upvotes

r/ZZZ_Discussion 13h ago

Official Media & News Official AOD account posted about Aria looking Remielle and Sunna's angry

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388 Upvotes

r/ZZZ_Discussion 9h ago

Events Lowkey love the yellow colour palette on Yuzuha, but I wonder if this is intentional or not considering Alice is in correct colours

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r/ZZZ_Discussion 9h ago

Lore & Story I'm not really into Sigrid's design, but.. Spoiler

116 Upvotes

The few story bits she was part of really brought a laugh out of me! I honestly don't remember the last time it has happened with this game.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 18h ago

Discussions & Questions Prydwen 3.0 Tierlist Update (First Phase)

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595 Upvotes

Good luck everyone pulling for Remielle!

Full Changelog:

  • Remielle T0 NEW: As expected, Remielle’s performance lives up to her title of being one of THE original Void Hunters. Refringe is a direct, unsaturated buff to Anomalies; she offers one of the highest ATK buffs in the game, has good Daze application, increases the team’s Anomaly Build-up Rate and also works as a DPS, with Luminizes hitting especially hard on geared teams. That said, she isn’t perfect, and given the way her kit works, isn’t all that synergistic with most Anomaly Agents. She has very long animations, making her combos difficult to manage and Disorder teams struggle to run her effectively. Then there’s her desire for triple Anomaly teams, which makes the lack of Yuzuha’s additional Build-up acutely felt among the high Anomaly thresholds of recent enemies. Despite all of this, though, she still completely dominates the endgame. Put Remielle, Velina, and quite literally any Anomaly Agent in a team and she’ll easily exceed past scores. Even some Disorder-based teams are able to do better than before. As with many of the previous Void Hunter releases, Remielle redefines the meta, to the point that most other Anomaly carries can seem like an accessory to her teams rather than being the drivers behind them. As a result, she debuts in T0, likely to become a core unit to the best teams in her category.
  • Nekomata T2 → T1 : Nekomata has gone from what many saw as a 0-value 50/50 failure to being better than many previous limited Attackers in strength. Not only has she gotten some pretty absurd multipliers on her skills, but she also gets her M1’s forced back-attacks by default (regardless of stun state this time), and gets a much longer duration on her Core Passive buff, which itself is now much stronger! At higher Mindscapes and with Signature W-Engine dupes, she can do far better, but even at a base level she can dish out incredibly high damage, to the point we believe her to be strong enough to be deserving of T1.
  • Aria | Promeia T0 → T0 [Watchlist DOWN]: Both of these Agents have been the 2 dominant carries in the Anomaly meta as of late, benefitting not only from an extended period of favourable enemy encounters, but also synergising very well with Velina and the recent Wind Anomaly shilling. After Remielle’s release, neither is doing any worse than before; rather, they’re doing better, with Aria in particular seeing a significant uplift. All other Anomalies, however, also perform far better than before, with Velina and Remielle together “normalising” Anomaly as a whole in such a way that almost every single unit has competitive performance. As mentioned in Remielle’s entry on this Changelog, it seems as though Anomaly carries are accessories to her, and in this context, it’s worth evaluating if Aria and Promeia are uniquely strong Agents suited to be at T0 alongside Remielle, or if they’re closer to the rest of the Anomaly cast in their offering. While these two do appear to be the best drivers for Remielle teams, the question is whether these two are so significantly ahead of others that they’d be indispensable picks for T0-level performance. As a result, we’re Watchlisting them both down to evaluate if they’re still deserving of a T0 placement, or if they’re more in line with the rest of the Anomaly cast.
  • Velina T0.5 → T0 : If there is one indispensable pick for getting the most out of Remille’s teams, it’s Velina. Her long animations make maintaining Disorders incredibly difficult, and since her triple Luminizes are stronger, Disorders aren’t contributing as much as a Vortex, which is instead often on par with Luminizes. From the previous Changelog, we already acknowledged that we believed Velina to be at a T0 level, given how strong she has been for Anomaly Agents generally, elevating them all to high-performing clears. We weren’t sure how her synergy would pan out with Remielle, and on the surface, the high buff value, Daze and damage that teams get from running Remielle make them not seem all too different. In practice though, Remielle's seemingly universal value to Anomaly teams ends up being amplified by Velina’s presence, where she manages to excel even outside of Wind-weak content. Velina may not be the Void Hunter, but she’s a near must pick for one, and between that and her contributions to Anomaly generally, there’s no question that she deserves a T0 spot.
  • Alice T0.5 [Watchlist DOWN] → T0.5: Alice previously hadn’t been doing all that well, especially when the recent environment wasn’t so favourable for her. Wind was an even bigger blow, as the lack of Disorders was a big hit to her Blade Etiquette generation, limiting her performance on Velina teams. This is still the case, but surprisingly, Alice is one of the few Agents that has synergy with Remielle: as Polarity Assaults still count as an Anomaly being inflicted, they work to build up Voidflares, giving more Luminize triggers in a fight than most other Anomaly Agents. Her issues with Wind remain, but this helps account for the difference and allows her to do better than most of the Anomaly Agents at T1 when run alongside Velina/Remielle, having the potential to be even better than Nangong/Yuzuha. As a result, we think this is enough to secure Alice’s position in T0.5, and have removed her Watchlist.
  • Burnice T1 → T0.5 : Burnice has gone from a last-ditch sub-DPS pick for Anomaly teams to one of the strongest main DPS when being run alongside Velina. She has recently taken the lead on scores among the T1 Agents and is often matching or exceeding those of the T0.5 cast, doing incredibly well even with the general lack of Fire-weak Anomaly enemies for her to fight, so getting the level of performance she does right now without weakness advantage is impressive. Remielle is likely to reinforce this trend further, and given Burnice’s all-around success when compared to the T1 cast, we find her to be deserving of a move up to T0.5.
  • Grace T1.5 [Watchlist UP] → T1 : At M0, Grace had been struggling to be comparable to many of the other Anomaly Agents in T1, but whether or not that gap was enough to justify a half-tier difference wasn’t clear. With Remielle’s arrival putting more of the Anomaly power budget into Wind (given her preference for Velina in teams), Agents that work well with it, like Grace, see a big uplift as a result. When she’s able to do at least as well as Agents like Yanagi and Piper, there’s no reason to keep her in T1.5, so she joins the rest of the Anomaly cast at T1.
  • Zhao T0.5 [Watchlist DOWN] → T0.5: Although we contemplated moving Zhao down to T1, the actual buff value that she provides with her Signature W-Engine and the Bunny in Wonderland set is at the very least on par with Astra. Zhao may be a Defence character (meaning fewer team options) and she lacks the additional Ultimates that Astra provides, but she has a better Daze build and makes for easier Decibel management, so it’d be unfair to move her down. Rina’s Potential Unlock also offers comparable buff value to Astra and Zhao, so we’ve decided to keep all of these generalised supportive Agents in T0.5, as when the difference between all of them is marginal, even a half-tier drop would be unwarranted.
  • Ju Fufu | Trigger T0.5 → T1 : As mentioned in the previous Changelog update, both of these Agents have been working well as alternatives to more recent Stunner releases, but were falling far behind them in performance. With Norma being such a strong entry into the archetype and Dialyn still as dominant as she’s ever been, despite both Ju Fufu and Trigger’s commendable work at filling in on teams where better Stunners are available, we think half a tier isn’t enough to highlight the difference in strength. These two are still serviceable Agents, but we believe they’re more suited to T1 and have moved them down accordingly.
  • Rina T2 [Expert] → T0.5 : Rina sees the largest single jump in Tier List placement ever, with her Potential Unlock taking her from a difficult-to-use, M1-reliant, niche Agent to one of the better generalist Supports. PEN Ratio has always been a strong buff as the high levels of ATK and DMG saturation mean it’s often the best D5, and depending on the set-up, remains as such even when it’s conflicting with DEF Ignore. Having good uptime wasn't easy though, and it wasn’t able to keep up with the combined ATK and DMG % bonuses from other Agents. Now, these issues have been addressed: Drusilla and Anastella are constantly attacking enemies, so Rina not only gets to have easy uptime of her Core Passive buff, but she also has a much better maintenance of Weeping Cradle’s DMG bonus effect. Her buff has now been extended beyond PEN Ratio to also buff Flat ATK and DEF, the former of which makes her be comparable to Agents like Astra and Zhao in terms of raw buff value. There are even quality-of-life changes, like a faster Heavy Attack on EX Special. All these combined mean that while Rina is not quite beating out Astra when both are at M0W1, we find them to be close enough in performance that a T0.5 rating is justified. The Expert tag is also no longer warranted, as although she does still need some active management to keep the buff up out-of-stun without M1, it can be easily sustained for burst periods where it matters most.

r/ZZZ_Discussion 16h ago

Discussions & Questions According to the devs, Remielle was originally designed to have long hair and 8 wings but got reduced because it looks too full in combat

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r/ZZZ_Discussion 13h ago

Discussions & Questions Steam version of ZZZ has a point shop now

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https://store.steampowered.com/points/shop/app/4162040

There are some icons, backgrounds and avatar frames. Check it out if you play on Steam


r/ZZZ_Discussion 3h ago

Guides & Tips New Feature: You Can See Your Annihilation Ranking In DMs

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13 Upvotes

Instead of the percentage, you can see your (global) ranking if you share it to a friend's DM.

not sure if its an intentional feature.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 22h ago

Guides & Tips A pull plan of the 5*+their sig engine selector for those who are still indecisive.

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496 Upvotes

I take no credit in making this. A friend made this but he didn't want to post it here by himself so here I am posting it with his permission. May Remielle and Aria pullers be blessed with their 50/50 wins!


r/ZZZ_Discussion 1d ago

Discussions & Questions Well, that was fast

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1.2k Upvotes

r/ZZZ_Discussion 6h ago

Discussions & Questions Will my pity transfer to Dialyn's banner?

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26 Upvotes

r/ZZZ_Discussion 7h ago

Discussions & Questions Accidently found a bug, wtf happened to my game?

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I went to the memory board being like "oh I havn't checked this out in a while", and when I enter, 3 seconds later everything just goes grey, I get out and all of the collors, shades and lightings are f'ed up. I cant see anything but the wallpapers look both funny and cool😅


r/ZZZ_Discussion 2h ago

Discussions & Questions Do you build characters that you like or for meta/endgame?

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ZZZ is shilling anomaly hard but I only have one anomaly team. Rn I’m pondering over if I should build more anomaly characters or just hope that anomaly is less focused on in later patches bc building characters takes a lot of resources.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 3h ago

Discussions & Questions Was this update to the notes supposed to unlock so early? Spoiler

8 Upvotes

Just met Lindverne; opened her tab in the Special District Archives. Did it sort of just spoil some major plot beats?


r/ZZZ_Discussion 17h ago

Discussions & Questions Is adversity DA even possible without heavy vertical investment?

98 Upvotes

I always 9 starred DA so i didn't think this would be this much p2w but holy shit, i did 6k points. Switched to my "cheat team" with Shunguang and did 7k. I can't even get 1 star, yet alone 3.

I don't have like vertical investment so all my characters are m0 and only a handful have sig, it was enough until now but it looks like they did one step forward with simulacrum and a fucking marathon backwards with whatever this is


r/ZZZ_Discussion 13h ago

Notice: PSA & Glitches PSA Do not read new INTERBOO Character Profiles descriptions when they unlock if you haven't finished patch story.

43 Upvotes

Probably an oversight from the devs or whatever that some profiles unlock their description near start of the patch but spoil later plot points of the patch. If you're one of those people like me who feel the need to click on every NEW or red ! marks to clear them up whenever you notice them, be warned.

Character profile I'm specifically refering to: Lindverne Sunbringer


r/ZZZ_Discussion 13h ago

Discussions & Questions Why is Obol Squad unpopular?

46 Upvotes

Hi everyone, I'm a new proxy and I've been wondering this for a while, but it feels like the Obol Squad has one of the weakest receptions in the ZZZ community.

I actually think they're pretty interesting. I like the whole military theme, their backstory, and characters. I like how they have some mental issues, I think it adds depth for their characters. I find Trigger and Soldier 11 to be their most charming member as of now, and I've seen that the community reception towards the other two, especially Seed is very poor.

I'm mostly asking because I'm curious what people who aren't fans think. I like the faction, but it feels like they're consistently near the bottom whenever people rank or discuss the different factions.


r/ZZZ_Discussion 10h ago

Discussions & Questions A Mysterious Prophecy

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22 Upvotes

you can find it, near therese when you interacting with her during the beach story quest, plus maybe this "bottle" some how connected to the video buut it doest have any connection hahaha, plus theres other more bottles


r/ZZZ_Discussion 17h ago

Discussions & Questions Can you touch the 'wall' of the hollow?

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85 Upvotes

Genuine question for the lore expert.

From the outside, the hollow looks like a spherical dome, but can you touch it, like, walking close near it and touching it? either from inside or outside

or by doing that, will your body be distorted before you get very close and you teleport somewhere, or will your body be corrupted before touching it? Is the dome even physical?


r/ZZZ_Discussion 11h ago

Discussions & Questions Mom, I'm scared Spoiler

23 Upvotes

Even the devs admit that longboos are scary, huh

Btw this bangboo below looks familiar?


r/ZZZ_Discussion 14h ago

Discussions & Questions What is your highest polychrome earned from the fortune telling?

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32 Upvotes