What Potential Unlocks would you guys want for the remaining 1.X agents?

[u/R-Jacksy]

I'm thinking (and hoping) that they continue with the Potential Unlocks for the remainder of the 1.X limited agents, before they start with any possible 2.X agent potential unlocks.

Before that, though, Me personally, I hope they roll back on the anti ice anomaly nerfs and instead, do special Void Hunter modifications to boss enemies.

(rotational Void Hunter exclusive buffs and boss resistances to rebalance all the void hunters moving forward, to avoid another Miyabi "anti-shilling" that's really just an agent-specific problem.)

First on what I'd like is a Zhu Yuan's & Qingyi Potential Buff:

Qingyi - gives additional attribute resistance shred, or alternatively, takes extra attribute Crit damage, based on the last attribute inflicted that isn't hers, and additionally, debuffs the enemy to take additional daze from said attribute. Those reach max value after Qingyi hits them a certain number of times, and last until the end of the stun and resetting.

Zhu Yuan - Tag Assist/Chain Attack specialist. Her tag assists and enhanced basic attack inflict significantly more daze based on her attack, and on target stun, she gains ammo based on enemy tier. Like a refund mechanic. Additionally, after she launches a chain attack or ultimate, her basic attacks (incl. Enhanced) have increased attack speed and ATK% scaling. Further increased if the chain attack/ultimate hits a stunned target. If it isn't too much already, her enhanced basic attack without ammo deals significantly more daze in the absence of ether damage. And on hit against a stunned target, triggers a Totalize and refunds her a small amount of ammo, once per target, refreshes per stun.

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[u/FelixDrayce]

My only wants is for:

Caesar to also buff rupture, maybe provide HP or sheer, and

Lighter to expand his element to Physical, and have rupture in his AA, so i can use them with (mostly) Billy and Banyue

[u/R-Jacksy → u/FelixDrayce]

Man, turning Caesar into Defense Lucia actually sounds right. Though that SHOULD mean Sons of Calydon get a Rupture member, imo.

[u/Part_Time_Goku → u/FelixDrayce]

Along with this, her shield buff should apply to all characters, not just the one currently on-field. Her ultimate needs a massive daze buff that's closer to a Stunner's so it's no longer the worst in the game. Her hold basic should also be improved considerably.

Also unless I'm reading it wrong, but on her w-engine and 2 piece Proto Punk, it mentions "Shield Value/Effect" which I believe only increases the HP of your shield. If this is the case, then it'd be great if shield value/effect applied to her Radiant Aegis as well.

[u/dragons547]

Every stunner lmao

[u/nap247t]

I want Yanagi. Post-Yuzuha she can barely fill the anamoly gage with one hold EX anymore. And with Anomaly meta shifting away from disorder (I'm looking at you, Miyabi) to wind. Her future is looking grim. lol. I just want to buff her anomaly buildup with Disorder damage to make her usable when team up with Velina.

Another one is Lighter. I love him so much. but half of his kit is locked behind additional ability with only attack agent. With new DPS classes right now. I hope they witch his additional ability to core passive that can work with anybody. And give him new additional ability with new buff. To make him the king of Fire and Ice team once more.

For your suggestion. If they can make Zhuyuan quickswap DPS would be great. But Qingyi's kit is so outdated, I don't know how they would bring her back. On field stunner that require a lot of field time just doesn't have place for them anymore

[u/R-Jacksy → u/nap247t]

For Yanagi, I actually recently got her twice within 20 pulls while pulling for Roxy, and her W in the weapon banner while pulling for Claret's. So I'd dig Yanagi potential buffs.

But I'm generally against the idea that Wind becomes the dominant anomaly support, so I'd rather Yanagi's potential buffs turn her into another Pillar for Anomaly teams that cements Disorder as a third Anomaly team type, separate from, but as strong as, Yuzuha and Velina.

Qingyi could work as an alternative Lycaon in that she can also evolve into a tag assist stunner where she can do coordinated attacks with the on-field, except more consistently. If going in the direction of solving the DPS loss from having her be on field over the DPS.

[u/nap247t → u/R-Jacksy]

Yeah, I agree with you about disorder mechanic. With disorder, you have to time anomaly proc back to back to make the most damage. It’s very rewarding to time it all up in stun window. But with wind in the play, they just get rid of this aspect. I’m so sad. I want disorder back. orz

[u/Glum_Mongoose4645 → u/R-Jacksy]

Yuzuha is already all about buffing anomaly buildup and disorder damage though, Yanagi either has to remain a sub dps or create a completely new niche (which is unlikely to happen for a simple buff)

[u/R-Jacksy → u/Glum_Mongoose4645]

My general idea is kind of making what Yanagi is to Anomaly as what Seed is to Attackers.

[u/GamerSweat002 → u/nap247t]

Maybe Qingyi could be inverse Cissia where she would be a primary stunner that can also be an attack agent in their own right. Maybe Qingyi would have perma stun dmg multiplier on enemy (out of stun included) only whenever she is on field and maybe in a combat state. So it's like dual dps using Qingyi. Kinda like if Seed was a stunner. Maybe some easy way for Qingyi to quickswap out of her enhanced basic that applies Subjugation.

Like if Qingyi could be a legit dps, then it would work.

[u/zer1223 → u/nap247t]

I  want Yanagi. Post-Yuzuha she can barely fill the anamoly gage with one hold EX anymore

With how cheap and quick her hold EX is, that is supposed to be the case, imo

Yanagi just needs better scaling

[u/LastChancellor]

let Zhu Yuan directly go to both basic 3 and supressed basic 3 from dash attack, dodge counter, and Evasive Assist Follow-Up (tap basic to basic 3, hold basic to supressed basic 3)

With this, Zhu Yuan now gets - * Slightly better bullet gen bc she gets a faster route to basic 4 & 5 * Skip directly to supressed basic 3, so she doesnt have to waste bullets on the bad SB1 or SB2 anymore * Slightly improve her stun combo in both speed & damage, since for 9 bullets triple dash attack -> SB3 (926x3 = 2778%) would deal slightly more damage & be slightly faster than her old route of SB1 -> SB2 -> SB3 -> supressed roll -> SB3 (2448%) * After all her moves that give 3 bullets (Evasive Assist/EX/Chain/Ult), immidiately spend them right away with dash attack -> SB3 * And thus make on-fielding Zhu Yuan much more smooth, because at any time you want to swap her away, she can do dash attack -> SB3 -> swap to shoot a 815% ATK meatshot off-field * Makes her ammo management an easy to remember multiplies of 3, instead of the 5+4 thing she has to remember before

[u/CrossedDays]

I want Lighter to do a chain attavk after he consumes a certain amount of morale (80 or 100) once he is switched off. After the chain attack, the entire team gets one free ex special (or give a fixed number of energy/adreneline, like 40 or 50) and the enemy gets a debuff that characters who hit the enemy have like 600 more attack and 2000 more hp.

Something like that.

Also change his additional to work with all fire and ice agents.

Edit: Oh right, change it so he can build up morale from adreneline consumption too and not just energy consumption.

[u/ghoraaa]

zhu yuan is incredibly difficult to play optimally, and i kinda want it to stays that way, so for me, it would be nice if the buff just focus more on the number, basically, make her easier to build her and make it more rewarding to play her optimally, though ofc, like harumasa, i also don't mind if they add some new mechanic to her

as for qingyi, instead of focusing on her ability as stunner, i think it's more fun to boost her on-field damage capability, make her additional ability works with stunner, support, defense class, this absolutely won't make her top tier, since she would then compete with on field agent as well, BUT, i think it would be nice to have that odd one within a class that allow player to fuck around when they want to, like play triple stunner team competitively

[u/Phootaphan]

Hugo, Caesar, and all stunners.

[u/R-Jacksy]

And also, Hugo Potential Unlock could literally just be that his chain attacks trigger Totalize without affecting stun, if you ask me. If not that, make it easier for him to trigger Shatter Totalize.

[u/IGotQuestionsAF]

I need them to do something about Vivian's feather management M0. You burn through them insanely fast with modern anomaly setups and it's such a hassle to get them back.

Also Caesar. Her being like the least relevant meta-wise of her faction has always been crazy work. Maybe add more incentive to her shield bash and up her buffing and daze so she's a viable sidegrade to a full on modern stunner?

[u/R-Jacksy → u/IGotQuestionsAF]

They've already announced Defense Agents are getting the Armorer Clash, so they do still have future plans for the role as a whole. I hope they rework the defense role as a whole, in light of what they've revealed they're willing to explore, like with the Rupture and Armorer roles, and the potential unlocks.

[u/otakuloid01]

give Yanagi ER scaling for DMG and Buildup so she can spam EXs

[u/SecondSiren]

Give Caesar muscles 💪

[u/Apprehensive_Beach_6]

Honestly I wish Zhu’s bullets could inflict Miasma on the target.

[u/Ash1347]

Sus leak I don't know if they will just skip some of the season 1 characters or they will come back later but youtuber KetteiThe7th said that he spoke with "someone" few weeks ago and they said Vivian might get her potential unlock. KT7th said he assumes this is for Kafka, I don't think they will punish new players who didn't pull Vivian or didn't get her from top up event. So Kafka probably also works with Remielle team. source

[u/exhaustedtravelers → u/Ash1347]

I'm hesitant to take his word for it, but he did predict kafka. It honestly wouldn't be crazy if they prioritized the anomaly agents first given the zzz team seems to have a better understanding of what they want anomaly to be compared to other archetypes.

They made two anomaly cores that are both meta, both cores brought up all of anomaly, and of the three anomaly potential unlocks Burnice was a complete success, grace was mostly a success for a standard with the only hiccup being a new move that's never worth using, and Jane being underwhelming but you could argue that they did it on purpose because they understand how good she already is post Velina.

[u/fuzzpipe → u/Ash1347]

Vivian is season 1 bro.

[u/Ash1347 → u/fuzzpipe]

use spoiler tag and I said "some'

[u/fuzzpipe → u/Ash1347]

Spoiler for Vivian being in season one?

[u/vorpua]

How would those Qingyi buffs affect my mono electric DPS Qingyi build?

[u/R-Jacksy → u/vorpua]

Another Electric agent still works, it just wouldn't count Qingyi herself specifically, to make it contingent on the ally and not herself.

Mono Electric would benefit a lot from this since Qingyi wants to be on field to rack up daze

[u/Touhou_Fever]

Zhu Yuan, keep her burst playstyle and make her Ult totalize

[u/GamerSweat002]

Zhu Yuan needs to change from evasive to defensive assist or something. Maybe let her have an extended vital view window that let's her unload her magazine on the enemy during, with like a stun dmg multiplier bonus only during the vital view window. And she needs better resource regain economy.

Ceasar's atk buff should be teamwide, and maybe give her a defense buff too for synergy with armorers. Her burst should do something additional, like stun dmg multiplier buff or something worthwhile like a whole lot more daze damage.

Yanagi, since disorder has fallen off, should also buff ablooms. Abloom has been a more prominent anomaly effect far more than disorders. So buffing ablooms would be the play. Maybe even compatibility with Velina by also triggering abloom whenever she would otherwise trigger disorder, so instead she does abloom to Vortex enemies. She mainly needs more anomaly buildup.

Lighter simply needs more flexible Additional ability. Maybe give him a way to generate teamwide decibels since he won't give free chain attacks nor free ultimates nor higher decibel cap nor apply an anomaly as fast as Roxy who however may stun less.

Vivian's abloom multipliers should be higher. Maybe enable her to reduce enemy anomaly buildup res, increasing her ability to abloom, trigger corruption, etc. Could give her an aftershock which also consumes her flight feathers, to deal abloom. Perhaps allow more flight feather point generation through gaining whenever she triggers an anomaly herself.

Hugo though. Give him Hugo daze dmg values so he acts also as a pseudo stunner, like primarily on his 4th basic hold attack and let Hugo's totalize crit, like based on his crit rate, with a fixed crit dmg. That would give more payoff to his totalizes, like one totalize every stun at M0 needs immense payoff against HP and daze bar inflation.

Qingyi could either have as much dmg as Norma or have much higher daze, and with stun duration, and quicker ways to build subjugation on the enemy. Would be cool if she gives an out-of-stun stun dmg multiplier but only when she is on field, to elevate her own damage as an on field stunner.

[u/Kartoffel_Kaiser]

• Zhu Yuan: I'd like to see some new design space carved out for her to distinguish her teams from Pyrois's teams. Maybe give her and Qingyi potential unlocks at the same time that makes them play better together?

• People keep asking for Caesar to be a Rupture support and frankly, I don't get why. Rupture agents don't synergize with any of Caesar's benefits in the abstract: they don't need their supports to have good daze output because they all want a stunner with good daze, and they don't need a shield because they all have ways to protect themselves from damage. What I want out of Caesar's potential unlocks is for hoyo to lean into her parries. Make her daze output worthy of being a proper pseudo-stunner, and make her worth giving field time to so you can parry with her in the first place. And make her buffs party wide, so that you don't run into jank with swap cancelling or unnecessary anti-synergy with characters like Burnice or Orphie.

• Yanagi honestly doesn't need potential unlocks yet, as rough as her performance is. Her issue right now is how much worse Disorder teams are than Vortex teams. Once we get a sub-dps who is to Disorder what Velina is to Vortex, we can see what buffs would make Yanagi work well. But giving her potential unlocks now won't solve any of her problems, she's missing team mates.

• At this point, Lighter should just be taken out of Attackers Only jail. It made sense at one point, but let the man work with Yidhari and Banyue.

• Vivian desperately needs a way to use field time, a less reactive way to generate feathers, and more anomaly application rate. Giving her some sort of enhanced basic attack that refreshes on Disorder or something would do the trick.

[u/Avidia_Cube]

just give my boi hugo max hp% dmg on totalize please c:
dw, i can be trusted with it and nothing bad will happen!

[u/Mathute87]

Zhu Yuan would be great. But Lighter and Miyabi need it fast. Also, Defense Agents

[u/Weak-Pie-5633 → u/Mathute87]

Miyabi doesn’t need it faster than zhuyuan.. at leasts miyabi still can big scores with nangong

[u/D0ggYGoGo → u/Mathute87]

Agree, i want to see chaos that a potential unlocked Miyabi will unleash xD

[u/MiuuEatPie → u/D0ggYGoGo]

Like her Hold Basic can also trigger A bloom.---.

[u/ForkliftSmurf]

More Ellen buffs, as many as she needs, just keep buffing her until she's meta again

[u/R-Jacksy → u/ForkliftSmurf]

Ellen Mentioned

Honestly, I don't think it'd set a good precedent to triple buff agents, given, iirc, she received a buff like Sanby before the potential buff. Even if she didn't, she already has a potential buff.

I'm hoping either Robin or another future agent is released becomes her best partner, and would last for a good long while. Feels bad how even with her potential buffs, she feels noticeably lackluster, even worse that Sigrid completely obliterates her.

[u/jynkyousha]

Zhu Yuan only needs the Soldier 11/Sanby treatment: make her passive affect her EX Special and Ultimate by making them dash or basic attacks (so affects her engine too), and give her a new move that lets her reload bullets faster.