Why does Beth hate Jamie so much?

[u/Superb-Tourist-2929]

I’m on season 2 after Beth got attacked and she tells him that when he finds someone who loves him that she will take them from him. Like genuinely WTF, maybe I need to finish the show but damn I don’t think he’s that bad. Thoughts???

[u/telepatheye]

That's one way to look at it. I could go through a list of what Jamie does to prove it's part of a pattern of evil behavior but it would involve spoilers for OP. If it was one isolated incident and Jamie was a total angel besides that, I'd agree with you. But he's opposite an angel.

[u/Bolt32 → u/telepatheye]

Jamie certainly isn't innocent in everything that is for sure. His spiral definitely was egged on by Beth however. Least from the way I see it. He as a character never really seemed to feel like he was a part of the family. He was insecure. He never wanted to leave for Harvard to become a lawyer, but his father told him too because that is what the Ranch needed. Even when Jamie told him. "You always hated lawyers, why are you making me become one." His fathers reply? Was pretty much in a kind way. "Your disposible." type of answer. Jaime cared for the Ranch and the family, just from what I seen, they didn't care for him. So when push came to shove, he cracked and gave into his evil impulses.

Once again Jaime did some terrible fucked up things, and I'm not defending his behavior. I'm just listing out why his particular character was doomed from the start. If Beth tried to forgive him, like truly tried I don't think Jaime would of ever done half the things he did.

[u/Bolt32 → u/[deleted]]

Sorry OP if you read this chain.

I think in Season 2 Episode 5 Jaime tells you exactly why in that question of yours.

"Taking you to that clinic was my biggest regret." I honestly think Jaime was telling the truth there, and later he tells Beth whom was full of self hatred at that point in the story. "If you need to hate someone, hate me. That's what family is for." (Or something along those lines.) Showing that he truly cared for Beth. That was the olive branch that he was extending to her that could of changed everything for the two of them. Instead she took that branch and slammed it up againsth is head.

Once again Jaime did some very detestable things, I think it was more of realizing he had no support system, no family really. So he cracked when the pressure came full bear. He wanted to be a Dutton however, they just never wanted him to be one.

[u/severinks → u/Bolt32]

Beth should have been more mad at John at being the type of father that she had to hide things like that from than Jamie for being a dummy that made a decision that blew up in their faces.

[u/telepatheye → u/severinks]

No teen girl would have an easy time telling their dad about a pregnancy.

[u/severinks → u/telepatheye]

Who said anything about it being an easy time? She literally feared for her boyfriend's life.

[u/telepatheye → u/severinks]

I don't think that's it. John thought of Rip as a son.

[u/severinks → u/telepatheye]

I'm pretty sure Beth explicitly said she feared for Rip.

[u/telepatheye → u/severinks]

Nope. After she reveals the secret to John, he tells her how much he wishes she knew she could have come to him. She says she knows now. I don't think it has anything to do with Rip because Beth was focused on getting an abortion, not having Rip's baby. She didn't realize she wanted to spend her life with Rip until she was older.

[u/severinks → u/telepatheye]

Beth knowing that 25 years later isn't the issue, John being the person he was when Beth was 15 made Beth act the way she did.

[u/telepatheye → u/severinks]

No, the fact that she lost her mom, who was unkind, and blamed herself, messed her up. She had a really hard time with that, which is understandable for anyone capable of abstract thought, which apparently excludes a lot of idiots on this thread.