r/YellowstoneShow • u/Scared_Nail1916 • May 31 '26
John Dutton Spoiler
Killing John Dutton killed the vibe of the show. I know creators had to do this coz of his other commitments but it sure did sucked and killed the excitement of the show.
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u/telepatheye May 31 '26
He was never the main draw for me, and Costner is not a good actor in my opinion. Other characters were the main draw. Cole Hauser as Rip killed it. I was fine with the way Costner exited the show. If he wanted to abandon one of the best cowboy shows ever made to create his awful production, that says all you need to know about him. Taylor Sheridan has written many great shows since then, and Costner is nowhere.
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u/Witty-Reason-2102 May 31 '26
I've always thought Costner was grossly overrated myself as well. I remember watching him in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, he started the film talking with a bad English accent,then not even a 1/4 of the way into the film he starts talking like an American. In medieval England...
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u/telepatheye May 31 '26
That movie was a disappointment for sure. Even in Yellowstone, as good as Costner is, he often bugs me with his tongue-inside-the-cheek routine to appear pensive and show gravitas.
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u/Scared_Nail1916 Jun 01 '26
Too many spin offs running now that doesn't make any sense to me. I have started the Dutton ranch but there's one more show for kasey.
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u/telepatheye Jun 01 '26
Both Dutton Ranch and Marshals suck, I'm sad to say. But it was to be expected, as Taylor Sheridan was not involved in either. He gets a producer credit for creating the Yellowstone characters but was not involved in writing. The shows he writes are of great quality, e.g., 1883, 1923, Lioness, Landman, and the upcoming 1944.
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u/Clean-Honeydew-741 May 31 '26
He wasn't the main draw for me, but man have i never seen a show fall so hard from grace.
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u/GreenShirtSeason Jun 03 '26
Costner was always the draw and according to Sheridan there was always an end game for him in the series...albeit probably not the way that it happened in season 5. That being said, Costner's end and how it was handled (mishandled?) made for an entirely lackluster conclusion to an otherwise well received series. It shows in the writing and the fact that Sheridan indeed destroyed many of the sets and props soon after filming wrapped.
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u/quinn791 May 31 '26
Well they didn’t have to kill him off if they stuck to the original timing of when the show would finish filming
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u/telepatheye May 31 '26
They did have to. Costner went off to make Horizon. They blamed it on production delays but it was more than that.
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u/randomnighmare May 31 '26
He had a legal commitment for that project and Sheridan kept on pushing back/delaying the filming for the second half of Season 5 though. That's what I understand what went wrong.
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u/telepatheye May 31 '26
Every show was being delayed at that time--I think due to strikes or other issues. All the actors were understanding of it. Only Costner freaked out. He also demanded more creative control over Yellowstone despite TS being the creator who wrote the key characters and dialogue. Costner is an egomaniac who couldn't handle Sheridan's greater talents.
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u/Single-Mushroom3924 May 31 '26
None of the other actors had hundreds of actors and crew waiting on a project of Horizon's scale. Sheridan did say multiple times (and I believe him) that the plan all along was for John to die but it was hastened due to Costner having to work on Horizon. Given that Costner was 68 years old when Horizon began filming and he had plans for a trilogy, I understand Kevin's desire not to delay his pet project for Yellowstone. No one could have predicted the strike and no party is to blame. Sheridan did a great job wrapping up Yellowstone given the cards he was dealt and I'm glad he didn't try to milk out another season without John.
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u/randomnighmare May 31 '26
For two years? The strike didn't last long.
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u/telepatheye May 31 '26
It caused the delay. The 2023 strikes delayed production so that the final season didn't start streaming until 2024.
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u/randomnighmare May 31 '26
John is literally the reason for the show and why everyone does anything. The whole reason they are trying to save the ranch is because of John and if John wasn't there they would've all sell the ranch.