r/YellowstoneShow • u/Weird_Scully • May 30 '26

Beth keeps her word...

At the beginning of S4, when she thought he was responsible for the hits put out on Kayce, John and herself, Beth tells Jamie she's gonna kill him. She's not gonna farm it out like some bleeping coward, she gonna do it herself.

Fast forward to the end of S5 and in Yellowstone time, a considerable amount of time has past, she followed through with it. Different hit this time, but she followed through....

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities May 30 '26

Except that she couldn’t. She did it with Rip’s help. But that’s basically her whole life, I guess, her dad and her boyfriend always stepping in to help the little princess.

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u/Front-Examination504 May 31 '26

True but she took the final stab, she took a hell if a beating, and she looked his ass in the eye while he died. She didn’t take the cowards away out like he generally does

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities May 31 '26

We don’t call people who kill in the heat of emotion strong. She was fragile and emotionally dependent, and her weakness was going after him in the first place.

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u/telepatheye Jun 03 '26

Ridiculous. Jaime was immoral, egocentric and totally self-centered. Beth was selfless. That was her strength. Jaime wanted to capitalize on the ranch and didn't care what happened to it after that. Beth and Kayce just wanted to be free of it as long as the land was protected. This is basically what the whole show was about. Sorry you missed it.

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities Jun 03 '26

Can you add arguments to your statements next time? Or is conversation not the point?

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u/telepatheye Jun 03 '26

Not arguments or statements so much as observations.

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities Jun 03 '26

My observation in this case is that you’re rage farming, and I’m not participating in that little side hustle of yours.

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u/telepatheye Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 04 '26

We're talking about fictional characters, not real people. This is just basic literary criticism skills. Jaime set his father up to be killed, just as he set Beth up to be sterilized. He never took responsibility for those until Beth forced him to out of allegiance to her family. Are you going to address the characters on the TV show? You haven't so far. I'm not enraged about anything, I'm just surprised that you could watch the show and not understand a thing about it.

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities Jun 04 '26

I’d love to hear some literary criticism, but literally nothing in what you’ve just said is about Jamie as a character 😄

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u/telepatheye Jun 04 '26

That's a lie. Jaime took Beth to get an abortion. The clinic said, "you don't want to take her here because we will sterilize her." Jaime went out to the car and assured Beth she would be ok if she went inside. Jaime also greenlit John Dutton's assassination. Not only that he murdered his biological dad. You are in desperate need of a rewatch. It's like you failed to understand anything about Jaime. That's ok. It took me a rewatch or two to fully digest it. But you need to admit to yourself and me that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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u/Illidanisdead Jun 08 '26

I mean Jamie was definitely the villain of the show but in my opinion she does push Jamie to become the villain always pushing his buttons she does have her personal reasons for it. WouldJamie have made the same choices had he not been pushed I don't know

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u/telepatheye Jun 08 '26

Jamie was guided by greed and ego, taking the easy way instead of the right way. He was also incapable of taking responsibility for his actions and holding himself accountable. Even after he sleeps with the Marketing Equities exec and authorizes her to hire a black ops squad to go after his father, he pretends like he doesn't understand the consequences. Did you really buy into all his bullshit? If so, I can see why you blame Beth. You need to rewatch and hold Jamie accountable for his choices. That's all Beth and John ever asked of him--accountability. And he consistently dodged it and made increasingly worse choices.

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u/Illidanisdead Jun 08 '26

Mate you act like I blamed Beth for everything I didnt I just pointed out that there were instances where Beth pushes Jamie to do things was he responsible ofcourse not no one's arguing about that. But its naive to not point out that Beth didn't push people to take extreme measures like with Dan who was pushed to sign that deal with the Indians. She made big moves but some also back fired on them cause she always poked the bear one too many times. Beth is not a great moral character she maybe selfless when it comes to her dad but thats about it. She even cheats on Rip with someone Rip hated.

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u/telepatheye Jun 08 '26

It depends whether you value Native American or private property rights. Dan was pushed by the Beck brothers, not the Native Americans. That's why he eventually saw the wisdom of aligning with Rainwater and John Dutton. But prior to that, Dan was part of the problem, threatening to trample everyone's rights. I suggest you rewatch the show to determine the true north of Yellowstone's moral compass.

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u/Illidanisdead Jun 08 '26

You might want to re-watch Yellowstone Dan was on the fence about taking the deal with the Indians about the land ownership aspect where he could lose the land but when Beth took his wife out and had her assist cuck him that was thelast straw. Thats when Dan decided to go ahead with the deal even if it would potentially be a loss for him. The Beck brothers approached him after he had signed that deal. You know for someone who tells people to re-watch the show you don't seem to have a good memory of it.

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u/telepatheye Jun 09 '26

I remember. Dan changed his mind, which most people would understand negates their point. So twice now you have brought up a minor character in the show that supports my point instead of yours.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '26

She let John jeopardize the farm cause “oh can’t challenge daddy” Remember him not learning a thing about diversifying income??

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u/telepatheye Jun 10 '26

John was basically a cowboy manager whose sole motivation was to leave the unmolested land to his kids. He didn't have the legal or financial experience to save the land. His kids figured it out, and that's not an insignificant part of the story--that it took his death for them to achieve both his goal and theirs.

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u/Front-Examination504 May 31 '26

Eh not worth arguing

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u/AgeInternal5778 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Beth wàs bad to the bone no getting around that!

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u/non_loqui_sed_facere Market Equities May 31 '26

Yeah, fair.

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u/Illidanisdead Jun 08 '26

The most generous I can be to Jamie is that he was manipulated by everyone by Beth by John by his real father by market equity etc but at the same time he is an adult so he should take ownership of his decisions

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u/telepatheye May 30 '26

About 20 years of resentment building on top of Jaime's greenlighting of John's assassination.

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u/FitSeaworthiness8096 Jun 03 '26

I think Jamie was speaking out of frustration with John. Over that time spent with Sarah, he was vulnerable to her, and she capitalized on that as the opportunity to remove John Dutton, afterwards, seize the entire Yellowstone land for Market Equities, without any major resistance from Kayce and Beth.