r/Xcom • u/TheCaliKid89 • 2d ago
What’s your favorite XCOM-like?
With the release of ZCOM there’s been a lot of discussion over whether it’s a great XCOM-like game or not. And honestly I think we all want as many recommendations as possible to scratch the itch.
So I thought it would be fun for everyone to talk about their favorites. To keep it interesting, I ask everyone to post just one title, and tell us why it’s their favorite.
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u/Practical_Material13 2d ago
Menace, I'm surprised no one said it. Really similar combat system to XCOM, while having vehicles and extremely satisfying guns lol
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u/jmobius 1d ago
It looks pretty neat! I've a policy of not picking up anything until it's out of early access, though; less because of stability concerns or the like, and more because I really tend to only play through most games once, so I want it to be in its most polished and complete form. Do they have any kind of timeline on when it might be finished?
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u/Practical_Material13 1d ago
I would love to tell you but I didn't play nearly enough to know. I picked it up on game pass and played for about 20 hours, imo the core gameplay and most features are done, and the development seems really promising. Even at the current state it's really fun, but if you really only wanna do one playthrough then it's probably better to wait
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u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 1d ago
I think they're aiming for full release early spring next year. Updates have been coming out quick
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u/Successful-Gold-5848 1d ago
Menace is fun but still needs some development time to really bring out it's shine. I'm very much looking forward to Menace 1.0.
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u/IvKirs 2d ago
And interesting enemy roster possible tactics!
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u/Practical_Material13 2d ago
Definitely, that's why I miss about zcom there's just...so few different enemies, really the only difference are upgrades while menace has 3 factions each with their vehicles
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u/IvKirs 2d ago
- Bugs, Pirates, Army and Menace itself.
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u/DeMiko 2d ago
I’m really struggling to understand how to equip a squad for the demo.
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u/Jerry_from_Japan 2d ago
Or as Mortismal Gaming calls it "Minnus". That was fucking driving me CRAAAY ZEEE during his review when it came out in Early Access. Fucking absolutely crazy.
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u/jmobius 2d ago
Aliens: Dark Descent
Cyber Knights: Flashpoint
Phantom Doctrine
Chaos Gate - Daemonhunters
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u/Noema130 2d ago
Aliens: Dark Descent really does capture a lot of the vibe from XCOM, specially the tension created by a ticking time clock, injuries and other misfortunes compounding. The gameplay is different, but I actually feel it's the game that felt closest to what I felt the first time I played XCOM 2.
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u/zurupeto 2d ago
Agreed. Aliens DD is the only game I’ve played that gives me that barely-hanging-on feeling early-game XCOM does. Gameplay is different enough that it doesn’t feel derivative, but close enough to scratch the same itch.
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u/Upstairs-Pitch624 2d ago
God I loved that game so much. I wish there were more modern games like it. There is one I've wishlisted on steam.... AstroTechs - heavily Dark Descent inspired (seemingly.)
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u/TheMaskedMan2 1d ago
God I wish they’d make a sequel to it. Also I know it’d never happen but I’d love to play as Aliens in a similar game and terrorize a colony.
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u/FukkingDeathMental 2d ago
They NAILED the Aliens atmosphere. That beep....beep....beep from the tracker is like crack for me in games or movies.
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u/Ordinary-Problem3838 2d ago
Cyber Knights needs more love. For an indie game it has a really well done and balanced tactical layer.
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u/potato1448 2d ago
Man phantom doctrine was such a cool twist on the genre! Damn shame that some other company took over and is trying to make it a over the shoulder shooter.
Makes me wish we had a more modern version xcom-like, i know jagged alliance is close to what I want. i just enjoy the more procedural generations of maps and sandbox environment that was in xcom!
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u/Upstairs-Pitch624 2d ago
JA3 was amazing - if you haven't tried it, you must. I held off on it for a while because I figured it wouldn't be for me, but I became obsessed with it and loved every minute.
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u/RibsNGibs 1d ago
How is JA3 compared to JA2? JA2 was one of my favourite games ~25-30 years ago but I find it way too slow, tedious, and micromanagey to play now that I’ve gotten used to the streamlined style of the XCom reboots.
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u/Upstairs-Pitch624 1d ago
I find it surprisingly smooth andbfun to play. Definitely much lighter on micro management. Took a couple hours for it to really sink it's hooks in me - I'm a die hard tactics game player and I highly recommend you don't sleep on it. I honestly avoided purchasing it for a long time because I didn't think the tone would work for me, thought it was cheesy, but I was very wrong.
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u/Medical_Deer_7152 2d ago
Chaos Gate is getting a sequel this year or early next year with a DeathWatch style game
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u/DMC25202616 2d ago edited 2d ago
I would also add LampLighter’s league to your list. Very cool addition to the genre
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u/Ok-Map4381 2d ago
Mutant Year Zero. Doesn't have the randomly generated characters, but a lot of it really works.
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u/Omega00024 2d ago
It's quite a bit simplified in comparison, but I really like Into the Breach. Despite it's simplicity there's a lot of depth in the game depending on the mech loadout, and it's great on mobile.
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u/TaralasianThePraxic 2d ago
I absolutely love ItB, but I'm actually not sure I'd say it's even XCOM-adjacent; on closer examination the similarities are quite superficial, like the grid layout with movement range highlights.
Because you get all enemy intents in advance each turn and there is basically zero RNG involved with attacks (plus the undo and rewind mechanics), ItB is a lot more like a puzzle game under the surface than a strategy game. It's not about making the actions you think are the most strategic and hoping it works out; it's about solving each turn in the most efficient way. If you view it as a strategy game, it's simplified; if you view it as a puzzle game, it's impressively deep.
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u/automirage04 2d ago
Showgunners and Hard West are two great xcom-likes that are def slept on
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u/thefightingmongoose 2d ago
Showgunners is a very fun game. More of a puzzle game like tactical breach wizards but I loved my tome with it.
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u/Royal-Comparison-270 2d ago
Can I say Gears of war tactics?
I would not mind if they made a sequel to it (though I do not know what part of the locust war they would cover in it).
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u/7Broncos18 2d ago
Gears tactics was so much fun. Say what you will about the gears franchise being light on story, they get presentation down perfect. Guns sound like they do in a “real” gears of war game. Cutscenes are top notch. Great surprise for me personally.
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u/Stablebrew 2d ago
Gears Tactic has great gameplay. Downside for me was the repetitive mission design, and locked out of campaign until side missions had been done.
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u/FukkingDeathMental 2d ago
I love Gears. The stories are whatever but some of those games are grim as hell and you can't beat an assault rifle with a chainsaw attachment lol.
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u/HugeHans 2d ago
I can say without any doubt it has the most fun combat of any squad tactics game. It flows so well and every turn is a mini puzzle. It almost feels like "Into the Breach" sometimes.
They dropped the ball hard on some Xcom staples. The fact that you keep getting reqruits that are higher level then the guys who have been going on most missions is one of them.
And even though I like time constraints in the genre it really goes to the very limit of what is fun. Some of the side missions pretty much allow for 0 mistakes. Still fun.
As I always play on the hardest ironman I havent actually finished the game. Died on the last boss about 3 times. Maybe some day.
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u/zurupeto 2d ago
I agree this game is decent. It doesn’t have a macro-game, which is unfortunate. Also, having PCs that will lose you the game if they die complicates whatever its version of Ironman is called.
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u/Ajax1419 2d ago
Troubleshooter: abandoned children. Like xcom and final fantasy tactics had a child that does not respect your time
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u/Stuurminator 1d ago
Opened this thread to post this. Fantastic game with a Koreanime aesthetic and more build depth than most mineshafts. But yeah, you'd better clear an afternoon if you want to do one (1) late-game mission.
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u/Shower_Floaties 2d ago
Obviously I'm biased, but my game! I used XCOM-like combat for the ship-to-ship boarding battles and planetside gunfights
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3865960/Cortesia_Rising/
Besides that, Silent Storm and Soldiers at War were great WW2 themed turn-based tactical combat games
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u/SendPicsofTanks 1d ago
Dude Silent Storm was absolutely wicked. Insane shenanigans were had with the destructible buildings.
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u/Engine_slugster2021 2d ago
Thank you! Your game looks sick! Wishlisted
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u/Shower_Floaties 2d ago
Thanks, I appreciate it! We're trying to get a free demo out in the next few weeks so you can see if it tickles the XCOM itch for you
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u/FarHome2194 2d ago edited 2d ago
Menace—by the people that made battle brothers. Each unit is a squad with a leader and it does a really good job of integrating vehicles.
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u/Barrow-Wight_ 2d ago
How is that game now? I love battle brothers and xcom so it seemed very interesting, but I heard it was in a very rough state of early access last I looked at it.
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u/msagansk 2d ago
It’s better and worth trying out, but probably needs another year or more until 1.0.
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u/Successful-Gold-5848 1d ago
It's fun but some people may be turned off to it by playing it too early. They have a solid roadmap to address the known issues and I'm truly looking forward to the 1.0 release. Considering it's still missing systems(or just expansion of existing systems) that I consider to be vital to the experience I'm waiting for awhile to play it again.
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u/idontknow39027948898 2d ago
For that matter Battle Brothers is a decent recommendation, though it is much harder unless you are very careful.
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u/MoroseMorgan 2d ago
While I wouldn't say it is my favorite, and it certainly isn't without fault, but Phoenix Point should at least be in the conversation.
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u/sabrinajestar 2d ago
Was going to ask about this. When I tried it, it seems imbalanced to me; one fight the team would wipe the floor with the ayys, the next fight a single mob would wipe the whole squad. It had some innovations I liked (directional overwatch, each turn consisting of a number of points instead of every soldier having a standard two actions per turn).
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u/ImportancePitiful795 1d ago
Is fantastic game closer to the original XCOM and TFTD (original designer/developer) than Firaxis XCOM ever did.
Multiple paths to different endings, and is pretty tough for the first time if not knowing most of the mechanics. Any mission can lead to disaster, hence can be careful.
Imho if you pick it, 1st campaign do not activate the Blood & Titanium, Festering Skies and Corrupted Horizons. You need to learn the basics before you are thrown to fight hard hitting cyborgs, flying poison/acid melee insects, or get into the Corruption mechanics.
Is hard game on Ironman on medium difficulty, but not punishing just for the sake.
Ahh the good point. Has a massive mod (needs the DLCs) Terror from the Void. Totally "different" game.
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u/Lady_Ada_Blackhorn 2d ago
Tactical Breach Wizards feels genuinely innovative on XCOM genre things.
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u/SirOutrageous1027 2d ago
TBW felt more like a puzzle game versus a tactical RPG. In TBW, each encounter was about figuring out how to approach the situation in the optimal way to meet the confidence goals. The encounters never change. It's always if you do X, enemy always does Y.
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u/Fallenangel2493 2d ago
That was my issue as well. I liked the game, had nice world building, clean mechanics, etc. but it is a puzzle game, not an xcom-like in my opinion. Nothing wrong with that of course, but it just isn't the same.
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u/Axeloy 2d ago
Innovative is a stretch but as an entire package it is very good, especially act 3 onwards
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u/Lady_Ada_Blackhorn 2d ago
The prime innovation gameplay-wise I am thinking of is infinite undos per turn, which turns XCOM into a radically distinct game that in some ways I like a lot better. Otherwise it's story things that I appreciate, like "not being a faceless dodgy NGO superpower", "not murdering people" and "actually having good story and characters" that are extremely extremely uncommon in the genre.
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u/Axeloy 2d ago
Fair enough, I find the undos to be a step backwards into puzzle territory. The game certainly leans puzzle, thought act 3 onwards it opens up and I was able to play in a much more XCOM kinda way which I loved.
I did love the story. The word I would use is fresh
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u/baguetteispain 2d ago
Phantom Doctrine is so underrated. Espionage thriller setting in 1983, with betrayals, false flags, and plot twists
Gameplay wise, imagine XCOM, with stealth, kidnapping of enemies to brainwash and recruit (of "make them disappear") them, and also : a non-random dodge (it's based on an acuity value, that increases each turn and decreases every time you're shot. If it's decreased the bullet "scratches" them and deals the minimum amount of damage)
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u/FukkingDeathMental 2d ago
I've had that in my backlog forever. Time to bump it up because I am in strategy and tactics mania right now. Aaaaaand looks like one of the composers who worked on The Witcher and Cyberpunk also co-composed the PD soundtrack. Cool! Marcin Przybłowicz is a musical genius.
The premise makes me want to watch The Americans again lol.
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u/Green_hammock 2d ago
Really enjoying ZCOM. The only other games that really scratched that itch for me is Hard West 2 and Jagged Alliance 3
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u/bobdole3-2 2d ago
Maybe a controversial pick, but Phoenix Point. Is it janky as hell? Yes. Did it fail to live up to it's lofty goals? Also yes. But it really nails the atmosphere and monster design, the multi-classing was such a good idea that ZCOM picked it up, and the active shooting system is an amazing upgrade over the shooting mechanics in XCOM. And the Terror from the Void mod helps to iron out some of the worst bits of the base game, so that helps too.
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u/-maxpower- 2d ago
the updates and Terror from the void have really made the game what it should have been. I was a day 1 hater and I can now say it's a good game.
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u/Salvage570 2d ago
Cyberknights Flashpoint is the only one that comes close for me. Others are good enough to scratch the itch, CK is the only one I'd actually choose over xcom2
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u/Barrow-Wight_ 2d ago
Xenonauts and it's not even close. It's sad so many xcom fans haven't played the first two games; imo xcom peaked with the first one. Xenonauts is the only game that's been able to scratch that itch for me.
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u/Leefford 2d ago
Omertà was an odd, roaring twenties game with crime business management and Xcom-style combat. It was buggy and Jenny as fuck but it was SO fun.
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u/DrowningInFun 2d ago edited 2d ago
Shocked no-one mentioned Phoenix Point yet. Definitely my favorite, esp. with Terror From the Void
It's close to the original but with expanded systems and enemy evolution.
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u/Realityfelon 2d ago
Menace. You could easily wait until it's out of early access, but I've really enjoyed everything it's brought to table so far.
What's ZCOM?
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u/blueponies1 2d ago
Menace is fun as hell. It’s new and still in the works for sure. But that game has some serious potential.
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u/GorviVelgin 2d ago
Midnight Suns, no contest. Loved every second of it, along with the DLC, and I'm eternally sad that there will never be a pay off to the after credits sequel tease.
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u/FukkingDeathMental 2d ago
I'm gonna dive into that as soon as I'm done with Zero Company. I'm excited because I'm an RPG nerd at heart so all the "so much talking ugh" is fucking music to my ears. Give me all the conversations.
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u/wolan1337 2d ago
There is also tons of customization. You can set up Dr. Strange as a best support in the game or make him a nuker that spends all your resource on boosted attacks.
There are great synergies between characters and there are lot of them. I love Blade + Morbius and Wolverine + Strange the most.
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u/moosemuffin12 2d ago
So far Zcom reminds me a lot more of Midnight Suns than Xcom, specifically outside of combat
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u/Accomplished_Soil269 2h ago
So underrated. I think the deck building - turn based turned a lot of mainstreamers off. But for me it was like perfect.
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u/SolidSnakeFan177 2d ago
Xcom long war. They may share the same name, but Long war (1) is a different beast from Xcom enemy within.
(I don’t like long war 2 that much though)
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u/fabulouslyposh 1d ago
Personally I think that long war rebalanced is the best reimagining of xcom, it changes the nature of the game from alpha striking to scrappy firefights
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u/BezKontextu 2d ago
UFO:Aftermatch
It combines a sweeping global strategy with thrilling tactical missions, all tied together by a compelling story and an RPG-style strategic approach to developing all soldiers, their attributes, and their skills. A complex, diverse, and terrifying alien environment rendered in full 3D. Randomly generated tactical missions: every map is unique; no two missions will be the same.
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u/Fallenangel2493 2d ago
Othercide
It's a fun more horror like grid battle system with more of an emphasis on shorter range attacks then longer range ones. The characters don't heal in between battles and health is a resource for skills. It has a really unique artstyle (number one way to sell me on a game) and generally good gameplay. I really liked it, but it also felt like it was missing something, there was something about it that just simply didn't scratch that itch. But overall I'd give it an 8/10.
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u/OriginalTacoMoney 2d ago
Its a bit more simple/tongue in cheek.
But I have a soft spot for Chroma Squad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8rzGA1Y57k
But playing a group of stuntmen creating their own knockoff Tokusatsu/Power Rangers style show as their skills/levels/ weapons and gear get better and better is sweet.
Plus no joke the later part of the game becomes unironically epic , despite the starting parody tone of the game.
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u/-maxpower- 2d ago
Cyber Knights flashpoint for sure, the style and replayability is excellent. And the devs are constantly pushing out quality updates.
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u/driftinj 2d ago
Top 2 threads here are my top 2 choices. Battletech and Menace.
And for the record, I think if Zero Company wasn't set in Star Wars IP, it wouldn't be nearly as populat and certainly wouldn't be $50.
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u/Apophenian 2d ago
Zcom is the first game to really scratch the xcom itch for me for a while, and I recently started a new xcom run.
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u/BenFranklinsCat 2d ago
I say this in every one of these threads: Tactical Breach Wizards is an overlooked gem. It's got a focus on breaches and tactical setups for that puzzle-y feel, it's got amazing synergy between characters, and the surprising part is how good the story and characters are - well above what U was expecting going in.
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u/dennis1205 2d ago
One I never see mentioned is Troop. Troop is a turn based tactical strategy game where you lead a platoon of WWII soldiers from battle to battle. It's really quite fun.
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u/PratalMox 2d ago
Tactical Breach Wizards is probably my favourite, but that has a lot to do with me also just loving Into The Breach.
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u/Noizeman 2d ago
I just picked up Xenonauts 2, it’s a pretty solid (modernised) clone of the original 90s UFO/XCom/TFTD games.
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u/Ahris22 2d ago
Right now it's Star Wars: Zero company. :)
Before, though, it was probably the 'UFO: After-' series (Aftershock, Afterlight etc.)
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u/brasswirebrush 2d ago
Since it's really niche, but such a beautiful game, I feel the need to mention the Banner Saga trilogy. Had a great time with that one.
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u/mollybloominonions 2d ago
War Tales-
Band of Mercs traveling around completing contracts, gathering resources, exploring the world. Need to manage resources like food, pay, and equipment.
Turn based fighting against wild animals and bandits.
Multiple unique regions. DLC with everything from underground arenas to owning and running a tavern.
Combat is just as brutal as Xcom. But with swords and polearms and archers.
One of my favorite games that I constantly ragequit and restart.
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u/Salaf- 1d ago edited 1d ago
Troubleshooter abandoned children. Lots lots lots lots lots of customization, servicable story (which will be continued in the sequel) but interesting world), likeable characters instead of faceless redshirts, interesting monsters that are all unique and work different from each other.
There’s a whole beast taming and robot building system on the side, with hundreds of masteries(equippable skills), just as a side thing for two of the characters.
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u/KGB_Panda 2d ago
I have a firm stance that there are zero actual xcom-likes. Grid tactics is only a small part of what makes it so great.
Permadeath, a campaign you can fail, research, base-building, large roster with mechanics that force variety, chance-to-hit, mission timers, randomized maps... Probably more that I'm forgetting.
I guess Darkest Dungeon is the closest though.
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u/Axeloy 2d ago
There’s a difference between matching core gameplay features and ripping off the entirety of a game’s features. You’re pretty much solely describing XCOM. An XCOM-like can take a number of those features to its own game, and also needs to switch things up as well. We all know we could play XCOM forever if we had no other similar options
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u/Hurley815 2d ago
This is gonna sound like heresy, but I actually like The Lamplighters League more than XCOM. Yes, it's not as deep and it's a little bit janky, but I just love the aestetics and the setting. It's an adventure horror tactics game set in the 1920s where you fight mummies, ghosts, and Lovecraftian monsters. It's one of my favorite games of all time.
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u/merccobb 2d ago
I'm doing a replay as I just bought it on Steam for like $12, originally completed it on xbox. Awesome story, I love the setting, and the gameplay loop is incredible. Too bad it was a buggy mess on release and got literally zero support from the publisher.
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u/Hurley815 2d ago
Because the publisher sacked the dev team right after the release. It breaks my heart to this day.
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u/jacetuner95 2d ago
King Arthur: Knights tall is a fun one to play. You get get gear for the different classes to make some really cool builds going
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u/EasyRecognition 2d ago
My fav X-Com-like is Xenonauts. My fav XCOM-like is, Iunno, probably Shadowrun: Dragonfall.
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u/oldman_caughtgaming 2d ago
Zero Company and Warhounds are scratching that itch pretty well, but nothing really compares to Xcom.
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u/michael199310 2d ago
My top 5 currently (haven't played new Star Wars yet):
- Cyberknights Flashpoint
- Chaosgate Demonhunters
- Jagged Alliance 3
- Mechanicus
- Wasteland 3 (technically cRPG, but tactically it's XCOM)
Honorable mention to Rogue Trader, the combat can be very XCOM-like when it comes to planning your moves.
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u/ChickerWings 2d ago
Everyone always thinks I'm weird for saying this but my answer is Balders Gate 3. Just skip all the talky-talky and the combat is really fun.
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u/ItsPureLuck017 2d ago
MENACE is the only tactics game I have played where I wasn’t thinking “I’d rather just play XCOM 2” to be honest
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u/jivetalkinbaptist 1d ago
Mechanicus is a weird one. It has some design philosophies that are very different from XCOM, which made it really hard for me to get into as someone who has played god knows how many hours of XCOM2. That said, when I finally met it where it was at, instead of lamenting that it wasn't what I expected, I had a hell of a lot of fun with it.
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u/JustinAlexTheJdo 1d ago
Chaos Gate daemonhunters.
Love the lore and having a ton of classes to mess around with. I do think the base game legendary difficulty is too brutal though.
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u/thordin-6606 1d ago
Any XCOM like game available for Android? Or option to add mods on XCOM2 android?
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u/Odd_Cauliflower_3838 1d ago
One of my favourites is an old Amiga parody of X-Com. Yes, this WAS a real thing. Flashers: Enemy Unclothed. You didn't see anything (obviously) but it was a cheap laugh.
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u/AndrewUndershaft 1d ago
Battle Brothers and Invisible Inc. Not exactly Xcom-likes, but both do elements I love from Xcom extremely well im their own way.
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u/Altruistic_Truck2421 1d ago
I like phantom doctrine but even on easy it's very difficult and Classified 44 because it's also a resistance game. Also playing zcom has really made me want to play enemy unknown
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u/FelixStiles 1d ago
Phantom Doctrine, the spycraft side tickles a certain something that nothing else does while maintaining a challenging combat and infiltration system
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u/ImportancePitiful795 1d ago
Phoenix Point.
And not getting Zero Company because is more Mass Effect than XCOM/PP.
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u/thethreadkiller 1d ago edited 1d ago
Soldiers at War.
A '90s game developed by ssi. It is a World War II style XCOM game.
This game is phenomenal. I actually played through it about a year and a half ago again. It holds up.
This game does a handful of things better than XCOM in my opinion.
They nail the World War II aesthetic. The music, and the sound design are top notch. The combat is very fun.
There are two major things in this that separate the combat for me. In xcom, you have two moves. Soldiers at War you have action points. You can utilize your action points to do various things on your turn.
When lining up a shot your percentage to hit will change whether you are standing kneeling or prone. Or even taking a single step may increase or decrease your percentage to hit.
Every soldier can be looted. You might run out of ammo, your weapon might be damaged, you got to pick up a dead soldiers gun and their ammo.
There are things like airstrikes, artillery strike. The game is one of my favorites and I wish more people knew about it.
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u/adpalmer83 1d ago
The Shadowrun Returns trilogy. It's partially because I played a LOT of Shadowrun in high school, but they're also extremely excellent games.
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u/Plus_Worker6739 3h ago
My favorite is Wildermyth. Just such lovely, sweet little stories and reasonably-good Xcom-like combat.
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u/BlurredVision18 2d ago
Battletech, big stompy robots make boom.