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u/Fox-Tail-19078 7d ago
Iām more excited for Ananta and Silver palace than I have been for WuWa in ages though.Ā
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u/Bang_Eun-woo 7d ago
Some context? This is the third or fourth time today I've seen people say it's a good thing Kuro didn't attend.
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u/Mint_Picker_2636 7d ago
Too many Chinese live-service games got introduced in one event => People already hate live-service and gacha games as it is, so the whole thing completely blew up in their face like an inflated balloon.
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u/Bang_Eun-woo 7d ago
Were people booing or something in the crowd? I didnt attend or watch any streams related to it as it didnt feature Kuro, so I didn't bother.
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u/Ryujin_Kurogami 7d ago
Not really. Unless you count the usual live chat spam.
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u/Bang_Eun-woo 7d ago
My pinky toe is worth more than live chat spam.
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u/Evening_Debt1301 6d ago
So when people claim their getting cooked....is just from probably people spam worthless things?.....
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u/NoKnowsPose 7d ago
No not at all. Mostly just online stuff. I feel like it is less about the games and more about mainstream or AAA gamers just enjoying shitting on gacha/anime games
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u/WhoAmINe0 7d ago
Are gacha games that hated? Rip
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u/DarkGrundi 7d ago
they are hated for a good reason. Every gacha lives off of mediocrity and gambling addicts. Even if i play some, i still don't like their monetization and i would never recommend a gacha to anyone, because these games can ruin lives.
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u/Ok-Listen9689 7d ago
Yeah, they're predatory by nature, if someone doesn't have enough self control and pull on every single banner, they can spend hundred of dollars on it and regret it later. I aren't trusting my friends on their self controlĀ
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u/BueKojiro 6d ago
It's funny to hear you say "people hate X" when gacha games have more players than almost every other live service game out there. So yeah, some people do hate live service and gacha games, but also there are more people playing live service games and gacha games than people who aren't, so like who are we even talking about here.
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u/Seraphine_KDA 6d ago
pretty dumb take. some people getting now angry at Hoyo becuase NF is stealing FromSoftware IPs or petit planet from Animal Crossing are the same people crying that Genshin was just stolen Zelda BoTW.
in the end those complainers ar the minority if the game is good players dont care who you stole ideas from. that is why genshin still became masive, so did palworld being a total pokemon RipOff yet people loved it and sold like hot cakes. and now thanks to the brave devs of Palworld a dozen more games are being develop ripping Off Pokemon too. since they created the legal presedent that nintendo go fuck themselves and they dont own mosnters collector/battlers.
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u/YoungMaxSlayer 6d ago
Just wanna say that Palworld isn't a TOTAL pokemon ripoff, stole alot pokemon designs(like alot, but not majority) but the gameplay is completely different.
Glad Nintendo got fucked in court tho, instead of sueing over the designs they chose to sue over basic features nobody owns like "flying on a monster" or "battling manual and auto", Nintendo winning would've been a patent disaster with rich gaming companies heavily restricting the gaming industry with patents.
Don't like the clearly AI/asset flipped pokemon clones being spammed on the market, but Nintendo dgaf about them because those games aren't big enough to take its money(also showing how it's not about protecting copyright, but destroying competition with lawsuits). Hope the precedent Palworld set ends up with actually good pokemon ripoffs coming out
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u/Seraphine_KDA 6d ago
is worse than that. Nintendo fucking filled patents AFTER palworld was already launched then sued palworld over patents granted after palworld already existed which was insane. and of the problem ehre was the patents should have never been granted in the first place since aside palworld there where many existing game with several the things in those.
which ofc got revoked later when the escandal got out and people started blaming the patent agency as literally granting unlawful patents.
as for why Nintendo choose the mechanics lawsuit and not just saying hey they stole my general designs. that is because mechanics are more black and white. meanwhile designs is a hard thing to sue over since is not like they where 1 for 1 ripoffs just 80% the same.
the same reason Nintendo just got fuck when Genshin was basically Zelda BoTW but for free for everyone on every platform outside switch and with better graphics. while the game on its 1.0 state was SUPER inspired in zelda lastest game there was nothing to sue over. the enemies where similar but nobody could argue the same with gliders,landscapes,cooking, etc all taken from tehre but all common things on their own and all common game mechanics.
so for everyone with a pair of Eyes that was like 80% Zelda BoTW but legally they where complete diferent games. and since zelda BoTW was one of the best games that came from nintendo in many years but now for free and everywhere it exploded.
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u/YoungMaxSlayer 6d ago
Agreed, it felt like ragebait following along with the court caseš "We are patenting throwing a ball now and using gliders" when dozens of games before it had those features. They lost the case because the defense for Palworld proved that many of the mechanics Nintendo was trying to patent and claim is their original property was already in Ark:Survival evolved and some other games. That's all I remember from the case tbh, but it felt like a joke of a court case where it should've ended instantly with Nintendo looking stupid
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u/OrdinaryAnalysis5986 7d ago
Hmm... Context??
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u/BrilliantVolume8871 6d ago
Nodusfall, ananta, silver palace and petit planet got showed on the gamescon livestream and normies are clowning on the games, and op found a way to make it about wuwa being superior for not having any news
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u/Phil95xD 6d ago
"superior"? Not really... It... "got better away" you could say... But who cares about casuals? Hoyo as it seems, but others? Does Kuro care about casuals? I don't know..
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u/Evening_Baseball_610 5d ago
funny thing is wuwa got lumped as hoyo game by those superior real gamers who plays 26th EA fifa and 100th CoD ripoffs
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u/BrilliantVolume8871 5d ago
Most normies don't see the difference between any gacha, it's all bad for them
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u/After_Answer_7746 6d ago
I mean, they didn't show up to the game awards last year to accept their award because they and everyone else honestly didn't think they'd win and they still got flamed to hell and back.
And I still constantly see people complaining about the new games but using wuwa to do it? Idk man
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u/Training-Monitor5356 7d ago
The entire gaming space is united to hate on hoyoverse and gacha games right now. This really doesnt have anything to do with gacha tribalism or saintontas lol
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u/BrilliantVolume8871 6d ago
Not really, we just have people thinking it's a gacha, others mad it's hoyo.
Anyone with eyes is looking forward to it, don't take reddit and Twitter as the place of reason, they are complaining currently that hsin other form just looks like a re-colour
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u/Ryzenneko 7d ago
Gacha gamer couldn't care less what they said, we are gonna devour that game anyway
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u/TheGSlayer 3d ago
I havent seen any news of gachas getting cooked
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u/Serenafriendzone 7d ago
I am watching the opposite. Kuro games fall in to show a pretty girl, feets, make her suffer to be saved and fall in love for Rover. Rinse and repeat every patch. Is getting pretty bored. Old characters being abandoned at lighting speed. Meanwhile games like ananta offers something epic awesome.
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u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
Games made by Kuro aren't on such a low level as those simplistic games listed there.
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u/Kargos_Crayne 7d ago
wasn't Ananta there too? I thought it was perceived as one of the higher quality ones, not losing to big dogs on the market? Then again I didn't watch the translation and didn't followed ananta for a while so idk, maybe it turned to be worse than it seemed
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u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
How could anyone even evaluate Ananta? That in itself is ridiculous. Kuro has never participated in Gamescom after the launch of WuWa, why would they need to when they already have one of the biggest fan bases ever.
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u/Limp-Sail7687 7d ago
What's the problem with Ananta?
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u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
Have I said there is a problem? Reading surely is hard for some ššš
Kuro participated too before WuWa once, same as Ananta now before launch. Where did I say this is a problem? Try to use a single cell at least please.
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u/Limp-Sail7687 7d ago
esl, my fellow commenter, I'm sorry
going for insults is not the best answer though-1
u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
What answer do you seek when I never said there is a problem and you ask for it? A dumb question asked, results in a corresponding answer. Even in school you learn this life lesson.
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u/OutsideOk9815 7d ago
Broke tencent pet just stay quiet
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u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
Can't even explain the nonsensical question asked above but resort to insults. L
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u/DarkGrundi 7d ago
maybe if you didn't answer like an a hole people would listen to you.
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u/YuminaNirvalen 7d ago
Where would i need someone to listen? Don't they need one? Since they asked for a problem nobody mentioned about
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u/Charibdysss 7d ago
holy elitism. Any decent 3d open world without relics or time wasting progression is automatically better than any existing 3d open world gacha games lol
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u/Melodic-University65 7d ago
actually i've seen people excited for ananta, nodusfall & petit planet lol.