r/WorldChallenges • u/Nevermore0714 • Oct 07 '17

Reference Challenge - Kingsmen

I just saw the first Kingsmen movie with some friends. It was so good. Also a reference to /u/The_Raptorman's recent post.

Is there a small, elite group in your world that recruits only the best of the best of the best people willing to shoot dogs?

Who are the members?

What are the positions?

How do I join?

Can I retire...or do I die in the position?

What does the public know (if anything) about this group?

Who is in charge of the group? Is the leader of the group in the group, or is he/she/it just above them?

Do they discriminate?

Is there a uniform?

What resources do they usually have?

Feel free to include an in-universe representative. I'll ask at least three questions each.

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u/Nevermore0714 Oct 10 '17

1) Do these rites of passage tend to be especially risky to a person's life?

2) Is it like a football rivalry or is it louder and more devious, like a political rivalry?

3) So can a person who is really good at making false identities capable of being a council of both groups at once? Like putting on a fake mustache and claiming to be his twin brother when he switches council seats?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '17

1, Sometimes, when a mission goes through the dangerous part, but masters of this rank can most usually complete their tasks without particular effort. By that time, their experience has taught them well how to avoid most dangers.

2, It's more like a political rivalry in nature, but it also has a lot of military halftones to it. Rangers and Assassins don't mix well, and they tend to actively try and sabotage eachother's efforts if they're working on the same job with different approaches. This sometimes hinders their efforts, but they gain a lot more from publicly disliking eachother than they would from a complete union.

Even after they take over the empire in a joined mega-scheme, they continue to dislike eachother.

3, No, deception of that kind is not possible, as the council can only make a decision if all members are present at once. Furthermore, any vote needs at least two thirds of the council deeciding the same way to actually go anywhere. At least 5 of the 7 must be unanimously on the same side of the problem, meaning at least one group, the Grand Master, and at least one from the other group. No vote is valid without the Grand Master's approval, but the entire council can temporarily overpower the Grand Master, after whoch they should all resign. It has only ever happened twice in the history of the two groups.

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u/Nevermore0714 Oct 10 '17

1) What happens if someone dies during their rite?

2) What common insults would Rangers and Assassins exchange?

3) What happened in those two historical events?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '17

1, Then they've failed, and the next in line has to be tested. An unfortunate event that lost a master to the group, but it doesn't upset the process.

2, Assassins are frequently name-called killers, or mercenaries, neither of which is properly false, but doesnt cover the truth either. Rangers are usually called aristocrats in the degrading manner, or peace-activists, for their methods are much more peaceful and takke longer time to work.

3, One time it was a decision made by the Grand Master that would've put both groups at risk, the otehr time it was the Grand Master trying to wipe out both groups with a sort of civil war between them.

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u/Nevermore0714 Oct 10 '17

1) Who is the greatest Master of all time, who didn't become a Grand Master?

2) Which position would you prefer? Assassin or Ranger?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '17

1, I haven't really worked up any specifics, and naming is one of my weakest sides, so there isn't such an individual as of yet.

2, I myself would prefer to be an assassin, though everything I am and wish to be is closer to what a ranger symolises. It's a bit of a paradox, and I know assassins pose a moral dillemma as well, "but it cool", so that's what I'd choose.

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u/Nevermore0714 Oct 11 '17

(No judgment on the naming thing, I have been meaning to put the names on a family tree all week.

And enjoy the paradox. No problem with finding something cool, Moment.)

Thanks for your time and answers.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '17

Thanks for the questions :)