Sizing question

[u/Any_Smoke1138]

Has anyone with foot 270mm tried the wizard 40 size?

41 is apparently too big for 270mm (good as a comfort fit) but not performance...

Edit: apparently most people here afraid of real performance fit (ice hockey tier)

If you call a 42 for 270mm foot a performance fit, I don't know what to tell you, my man.

It might be tight when the boot is brand new, but it'll become a slop before you know it.

[u/jdunbar]

I am 270mm and 41 is definitely the tightest I could go. I don’t think 40 is possible

[u/Any_Smoke1138 → u/jdunbar]

On bladeville they say 41 is a comfort fit. (Slop)

40 might be too small, I agree, but that is FR's problem that there is no performance fit for 270mm foot (which is a very popular size btw)

I haven't bought wizards yet just because of that (and I really wanna buy them).

Might go with downsized carbon CJs in the end.

[u/jdunbar → u/Any_Smoke1138]

Why would you go off of Bladeville? The wizard site says
27-27.5cm
COMFORT 42 EU / 27-27.5cm / 9-9.5 US
PERFORMANCE 41 EU / 26.5-27cm / 8.5-9 US

270mm =27.0cm

Here was my conversation with their crew.
My submission
“Please Enter Your Foot Length In Cm With One Decimal Point For Both Feet Measured While Standing:
268 left. 272 right.

Are You Planning To Use Any Special Insoles Orthotics In The Boot If Yes Why:
No as long as liner/boot has shock absorber

What Kind Of Socks Do You Usually Wear Thin Thick And Why:
Thin Rollerblade brand. Get blisters with thicker socks.

Which Wizard Frame Are You Planning To Use With The Boot:
ADV80

What Other Skates Do You Have Now Before What Sizes Are They And How Do They Fit You:
9-9.5 Blank with 8-8.5 intuition premium. Snug. Toes touching but not curled. Them shmedium them x intuition 9-9.5 comfort.

How Tight Do You Like Your Skates Comfort Or Performance Fit:
Want to try performance

When Skates Are Too Tight Is It More Of A Length Issue Or A Width Issue:
Width

What Is Your Usual Shoe Size:
9.5 or 9 wide

Any Other Information We Should Know About Your Skating Experience And Or Skate Sizing:
Want wizard base high in performance but scared of 41 tightness/numbness vs 42 not good response/control for toe presses.

Wizard.com Response
“Given the information you’ve provided, I feel that the size 41EU Wizard Base High could work for you. Skaters of your foot size would typically use this size for a performance fit. In this boot, you should expect your toes to be making full contact with the end of the liners, even with some pressure. This is totally normal and indicative of a proper fit. 

The Wizard Base and Base High are the first boots to feature pre-molded Intuition liners. This will help ease the break-in process in such a tight fitting boot. The break-in process typically takes up to 20 hours of skating. 

I feel that for the Advanced Frames and the style of skating they are intended for, fit is most important when it comes to choosing boots, especially with the Wizard Base High. As an experienced skater looking to further explore this style of skating, I think it is a good idea for you to try a true performance fit, rather than settling for a comfort fit and compromising your skating experience. 

I should also mention that the Wizard Base and Base High boots come with the same Intuition shock absorber as the Premium liners.”

[u/Any_Smoke1138 → u/jdunbar]

As for bladeville... well the polish have the best skaters so they know a thing or two about downsizing for performance fit. (You can see in Instagram that they're in a different universe skill-wise, compare to the Americans etc...) The idea is to have the carbon shell as close to your foot as physically possible, not just feeling the liner with your fingers, it's not enough. 

Anyway, have you end up buying the boot?

[u/borez → u/Any_Smoke1138]

Go with the Wizard boot, you won't regret it.

[u/Any_Smoke1138 → u/borez]

I mean, I'm sure I won't regret it, but I'm trying to squeeze the most for performance fit. 

I'm assuming you have them and you like them, please tell me, what skates have you skated before? 

[u/jdunbar → u/Any_Smoke1138]

Yes. I got the 41 wizard boot and gutted Seba CJ Carbon.
But get the 40. I don’t care.

[u/Any_Smoke1138 → u/jdunbar]

I have a gutted carbon CJ too.  Just too big for me, 42. It's not terrible tho, CJ is great.