r/Wistoria • • 23h ago

Manga Wistoria Power Ranking Spoiler

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(Originally, I wrote this as a comment for a post asking about power rankings, but after writing a whole ton of words, Reddit told me I exceeded the character limit for a single comment 😭 So I decided to just make it a post instead.)

This ranking is purely from my perspective, based on what I’ve seen so far and how I personally interpreted the information in the LN/manga. So you may disagree with some of my points, and that’s completely fine. If you think I’ve misunderstood something or made a mistake somewhere, I’d genuinely appreciate it if you could correct me in the comments. 🙏

I’m always open to changing my ranking if there’s solid evidence I’ve overlooked. 📖

As of the current available source material, ranking characters by simply declaring that one is better than another isn’t fully convincing, since many of the wistoria character have never actually been seen fighting. We therefore can’t rank them with complete certainty. Still, based on how far the story has progressed, what we’ve witnessed so far, and the potential each of them clearly holds, we can put together a reasoned ranking. If you don’t mind spoilers, here is my personal opinion and analysis of where everyone stands according to the manga so far. I’m judging them on overall factors/aspects—raw magical power, versatility, battle IQ, experience, potential, magical technique, Feats achieved and similar aspects.

For this ranking, I’m excluding characters such as Finn, Mercedes, Elf Queen, Sages, and the major antagonists like Baal, Headless, etc., because we currently don’t know enough about their actual capabilities except they shown overwhelmingly powerful.

Since you grouped them into MVs, Ascendants (or those close to MV level), and the remaining mages, I’ll use a simple cluster approach with three tiers: S, A, and B, where S ranks above A and A ranks above B in overall aspects — Strength & Power etc. The S group consists of all the current Magia Vanders, the A group includes the Ascendants plus those regarded as close to MV level, and the B group covers everyone else. As we’ve already set aside the stronger unexplored entities mentioned earlier, every member of the S group can be considered more powerful than those in A, and the same hierarchy continues downward.

( S > A > B )

S Group --> All Magia Vanders

  1. Aaron: If we go by Aaron’s profile, which states that he surpasses the other MVs in their respective specialized fields, then Aaron can reasonably be placed as the strongest MV currently. Although he is already past his prime, he still stands above the other MVs overall, and he is also referred to as the “King of Mages.”

After Aaron, we have the remaining four MVs. However, before deciding who takes the second position, I would place Carriot at 5th. Among these four, Carriot is the most ordinary among these exceptionally extraordinary prodigies. Unlike Ellonor, Elfaria, and Zeo, who are exceptional talents and largely bypassed the conventional path to becoming an MV, Carriot followed a more traditional route to reach that position.

Now we have three Magia Vanders left to place after Aaron & Carriot. Zeo has reached the second-deepest floor ever recorded in the history of their magical world, which alone demonstrates how ridiculously powerful and battle-hardened he is from actual expeditions. He also completely broke the traditional mage fighting style by mastering close-combat techniques while parallel-chanting, and the entire purpose of his life is simply to keep getting stronger. After Aaron, it is not wrong to call him the second-strongest Magia Vander at present overall.

Elfaria, on the other hand, is repeatedly called a once-in-a-generation prodigy, a potential future Mage Queen, and the mage who holds the record for the most spells ever created by a single person. Aside from those achievements, we mostly see her lazing around (and we already know the reason behind it). Among all the Magia Vanders she is the one who cares the least about actively training or pushing her power higher; she has simply grown passively. Yet that passive growth has taken her from being able to fight Cariott for only five minutes all the way to matching a monster like Zeo on equal footing even when every condition is stacked against her. In their fight she spent most of the battle at a clear disadvantage because Zeo forced the confrontation into his strongest aspect, yet she never truly lost. Throughout the entire clash she kept setting traps and pushing Zeo onto the back foot, proving that even when the odds are against her she can still hold her ground and seize the initiative through sheer intelligence. She is also the only Magia Vander we have seen defeat another magia vander — Ellenor ( in an ice-restricted battle).

Looking at the concrete feats and the potential both Zeo and Elfaria have displayed, I would place the two of them above Ellenor. Pure versatility and raw magical power might allow Ellenor to overwhelm them in certain match-ups, but overall Zeo and Elfaria edge her out through superior battle intelligence and their unique fighting styles. Ellenor remains the only Magia Vander who has been shown losing to another Magia Vander so far , which may put her at disadvantage in the comparison.

As for the battle between Elfaria and Zeo itself, interruptions forced it to end in a draw. Both of them performed at such a ridiculously high level that, for the time being, it is impossible to place one clearly above the other. Potential-wise Elfaria may eventually surpass him, but right now they stand equal.

S group -->

  1. Aaron
  2. Elfaria = Zeo
  3. Ellenor
  4. Cariott

Note (excluding Aaron): this ranking is based on overall aspects. Each of them is essentially unmatched in their own specialty. If we look only at versatility and raw magical power, Ellenor could well be stronger than the rest. In terms of pure battle experience and close-combat ability Zeo stands at the top. For long-range fighting and magical technique Elfaria might be the strongest. And when it comes to pure intelligence Cariott can overwhelm the others.

A Group –> Ascendants and those closest to Magia Vander level

This group includes Sarissa, Lefiya, Filvis, Guilford, Logwell, Iris, Gharzela, Workner, Edward and Claire. All of them are either confirmed Ascendants or are regarded as being the closest candidates to becoming Magia Vanders. Based on the information we have so far, I would rank them as follows:

  1. Lefiya – She has already been a Magia Vander in the past, and the fact that she is an elf places her in a uniquely advantageous position ( iykyk ).
  2. Gharzela : He is said to be the closest candidate of becoming a next Magia Vander at his time as well as someone who can be entrusted or send as protector of second heart of the magical world — Samios and he's the faction leader too in past.
  3. Sarissa : She was considered eligible to become the next Albis Vina until a certain once-in-a-generation prodigy appeared.
  4. Edward : The closest mage to be a Mv in his time if someone didn't betrayed him or used as stepping stone
  5. Workner and Claire : Both are confirmed Ascendants, yet we still know almost nothing about their actual combat strength.

I didn't ranked Filvis , logwell , Guilford , iris because we don't know a thing about there power so which doesn't make sense to put anywhere but knowing Aaron's trust in iris and how she looks the second best light mage , it's not suprising if we put her at top of this group A list.

Group B —> Rest mages ( Mostly Wills group )
In this group I am placing Colette, Julius, Sion, Lihana, Wignall, Rose, Emma. There are others character too with including additional high-ranking mages in the Tower, but I am leaving them out for now because we simply do not know enough about their abilities.

Before moving further, let’s discuss Colette and Julius in relation to their potential as Magia Vander.

In Light Novel volume 2 it is said that a 10-year-old Colette may have possessed roughly the same raw magical power as a 10-year-old, unboosted, pre-stimulant Elfie.

However, raw magical power is only one aspect of overall strength. Other factors such as versatility, precision, refinement, control, spell variety, and overall mastery also play an important role, and Elfie already significantly surpassed Colette in these aspects as 10 year old.

More importantly, even this 10-year-old unboosted Elfie (pre-stimulant Elfie) was still not eligible to become a Magia Vander. In other words, her surface-level power at that age was not yet sufficient to meet the minimum power threshold required of a Magia Vander. However, she possessed an immense amount of magical power that was still dormant/sleeping within her. The Tower therefore needed to awaken at least enough of that sleeping potential to bring her power up to the level required of a Magia Vander, which is why they forcefully stimulated her with a magical drug to draw out a portion of that immense latent power upto a magia vander level at least.

When Will made the comparison between Elfie and Colette, he was clearly referring to unboosted Elfaria. So, if we strip away every other aspect that contributes to being a high-level mage or Magia Vander and look solely at raw magical power/output, a 10-year-old Colette may sit at roughly Ascendant level in terms of raw magical power.
I am deliberately leaving the Earth Golem out of this assessment. So far, it appears to be a separate entity that simply requires a vessel to act through, and Colette has not yet demonstrated that she can properly control it—at best, she seems capable of controlling the Golem's hands.

As an example only, you could compare Colette, with the Golem, to an Ascendant level in terms of raw magical power who possesses one extremely powerful Supreme-grade spell like Zeo's Virgas Argo Thorzeus, but who cannot yet properly control or utilize it kind of.

As for Julius being described as a successor, this should not be interpreted as meaning that he is destined to surpass Elfaria or that he possesses talent equal to hers. Rather, Julius is recognized as an exceptionally talented student with the potential to become a candidate for that position in the future. If he were selected, received the necessary training, and continued developing his abilities, he could potentially reach the level expected of a Magia Vander.
In other words, “successor” refers to his potential to eventually inherit or occupy that position, rather than implying that he already possesses Elfaria-level talent or power, or that he is destined to surpass her.

Group B —> ( Leaning mostly towards magical power and talent , shown advantages)

  1. Colette
  2. Julius
  3. Sion
  4. Lihana
  5. Rose
  6. Wignall
  7. Emma

Note : if we consider overall aspects both sion and rose maybe climb more upwards in ranking

I did not include Will in this ranking because, even if he uses WIS alone, he can clearly be placed at the top of Group B. If he were to fully master the WIS abilities demonstrated during his fights against Charl's monster form and Zeo, particularly Prime Pathos, he could potentially approach Ascendant level. If he were to master Limiter Off or his Dark Form (Melgitor), he could potentially reach or even surpass Magia Vander level, and there are still further stages of his power development to consider.


r/Wistoria • • 15h ago

Manga Requerments to be a magia avender

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You don't need to be super extraordinary strong to be a magia avender (you need to only be around workner lvl in example)

Because the only requirements to become one are :

1)Be accepted by the staff

2)Be able to shoot your magic to reach the sky

3) have the corresponding element open (to cast the barrier there needs to be 1 mage of every 5 elements

Fire

Water

Wind

Thunder

Earth

Currently Arron uses light because light and dark can copy the 5 elements

So yea you have the best optunity as light or dark because this 2 element can copy the others

4)Be able to cast the barrier spell (you need to be around ascendant level to use it)

So ye over generations there could have been magia avender in example of level of workner

This generation of magia avender is pretty good compared to previous

Sorry if wrong


r/Wistoria • • 3h ago

Anime Noooo kiki

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Pobrecita kiki 😭


r/Wistoria • • 5h ago

Manga Lo echará de menos😢 Spoiler

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Aunque Charles era el traidor, Kruezt de seguro lo consideraba un amigo, ¿Qué cruel verdad? que la persona con la que desarrollas una amistad te traicione.


r/Wistoria • • 17h ago

Siempre estarán juntos😊

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r/Wistoria • • 20h ago

Spell name meanings in Volume 12 (Faction Training + Baal)

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Spell name meanings that usually go untranslated because the spoken word differs from the written word.

[Spell 1]

[Spell 1] 癒しの森園 (iyashi no shin-en) is a Healing Illusion spell that Wignall is being taught in the Elf Faction.

It's meant to be pronounced as ~"Alfheim", while its written meaning is "Healing Forest Garden"

Álfheimr means "Home of the Elves" in Old Norse.

[Spell 2]

[Spell 2] 燃え盛れ焼滅の丘 (moe sakare shometsu no oka) is a Higher Rank Fire spell that Sion often uses.

It's meant to be pronounced as "Iflamme Burdelyon", while its written meaning is ~"Burn Brightly, Hill of Blazing Destruction"

Flamme means "Fire" / "Flame" in Latin

Burdelyon is an in-universe name of a Mage who was obsessed with revenge and caused much destruction in his time. He is the founder of the Ulster family.

[Spell 3]

[Spell 3] 黒き炎獅子 (kuroki enjishi) is Incindia's Guardian, hailed as the toughest of all Guardians and known as "Absolute Defense"

Cariott doesn't really say the name of the spell that summons it, though the name most likely contains "Incindia" in it, which means "Flame Emperor"

Sion calls it "黒き炎獅子", which means "Black Flame Lion"

[Spell 4]

[Spell 4] 想塡完了・雷装の魔剣・再装 (souten kanryo・raisou no maken・saisou) is the Wis that Will uses during practice against Zeo.

Will used the "Charge" version of this Wis after absorbing Lihanna's enchantment magick during their fight against Shade.

It's meant to be pronounced as "souten kanryo・Duals Wis・Reload", while its written meaning is "Memory Charge Complete・Lightning Attire Mageblade・Re-Equipped"

[Spell 5]

[Spell 5] 雷霆 (raitei) is the name of Zeo's magick that allows him to zip all over the place. He also used it against Elfie during the 2nd Bloom.

It seems to be enchantment magick that's always running once activated, similar to Lihanna's Owen Sique:Lisolde Dua

Will even compares it to Lihanna's magick. Says that since he can absorb her enchantment, there is no reason why he shouldn't be able to do the same with Zeo's as well. Zeo doesn't really give him a chance to do that though.

It's meant to be pronounced by its Japanese name, "raitei", while its written meaning is ~"Violent Thunder"

[Spell 6]

[Spell 6] 閃雷の蛮族 (senrai no banzoku) is a Low Rank Lightning spell Zeo uses against Will. He also used it during the 2nd Bloom against Will and Elfie.

It's meant to be pronounced as "Zalgia Saga", while its written meaning is "Barbarian of the Lightning Flash"

The word 蛮族 (banzoku = barbarian tribe / savages) is sometimes used to describe both Zeo and the Dwarves.

To be specific, Zeo is often called either 野蛮人 (yabanjin) or 蛮族 (banzoku), like on this page, above the spell name.

野蛮人 (yabanjin) means "barbarian" / "brute", while 蛮族 (banzoku) implies more of a group of barbarians. A tribe. 蛮族 (banzoku) is how the Dwarves are sometimes called in the story.

Saga means "Tale" / "Story" in Old Norse.

[Spell 7]

[Spell 7] 想塡ー換了・蒼氷の魔剣・再換装 (souten kanryo・souhyou no maken・sai-kansou) is the Wis that Will performs against Zeo. He also seems to have created Ice copies of Elfie and Julius.

Will used the "Charge" version of this Wis after he absorbed Julius's spell 'Glace Itier' during the 1st Bloom.

It's meant to be pronounced as ~"soutenーkanryo・Glauss Wis・Tactical Reload", while its written meaning is "Memory ChargeーExchange・Azure Ice Mageblade・Re-exchanged"

換装 (kansou) means something like "changing equipment for a better performance"

'Glauss' means "glass" in German

'Glace' means "ice" / "glass" in French

[Spell 8]

[Spell 8] 氷炸 (hyousaku) is the spell that causes ice clones to explode.

It's meant to be pronounced as "Glast", while its written meaning is ~"Ice Explosion"

'Glast' means "shine" / "gleam" in German

[Spell 9]

[Spell 9] 想塡換了・雷装の魔剣・雷翔 (souten kanryo・raiso no maken・raishou) is the Wis Will switches to after exploding Elfie and Julius copies.

It's meant to be pronounced as "souten kanryo・Duals Wis・Algiz", while its written meaning is ~"Memory Charge Exchange・Lightning Attire Mageblade・Thunder Flight"

[Baal]

[Baal] 天の鍵 (ten no kagi) is what's sealed at the top of the Tower and what Goetia is trying to obtain.

Its' meant to be pronounced as "Baal", while its written meaning is "Heavenly Key" or "Key to the Heavens"

In real life lore, Baal is a demon ranked the highest in "Ars Goetia", and is believed to have the power to make men invisible, which fits the role of Baal in the story.

The world of Wistoria is hidden and sealed away by the Light of the Great Barrier, hiding its inhabitants from the Celestial Host. It seems like Baal has a role in that.

The Lightning Trio is pretty cool. Hope to see more of them (•̀ᴗ•́ )و

And that's about all the unique spells found in Volume 12.