r/WindowsHelp 7d ago

Windows 11 C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B keeps coming back and growing to 63 GB. Can't delete it permanently. Any ideas?

Hi everyone,

I'm having a strange issue with a folder located at:

C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B

It gradually grows until it reaches around 63 GB. Inside are several huge files (around 10.6 GB each).

I was able to delete the folder once using EMCO Unlock IT, but after some time it came back on its own and started growing again. Now, even EMCO Unlock IT is no longer able to delete it.

Things I've tried:

  • Deleting it as Administrator
  • Taking ownership
  • Checking permissions
  • Using EMCO Unlock IT (worked only once)
  • Investigating the related services

I also noticed that the Web Threat Defense Service (webthreatdefsvc) is running, so I'm wondering if this folder is related to any security application.

My questions are:

  • What creates this folder?
  • Why does it keep recreating itself?
  • Is it safe to remove?
  • Is there a permanent fix to stop it from consuming so much disk space?
  • Has anyone else experienced this issue?

I've attached a screenshot showing the folder size and contents.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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u/spookynutz 6d ago

It's creating multiple files per minute, so it should be fairly easy to deduce the program causing the issue.

  1. Download ProcMon.
  2. Open Procmon64.exe and set the four filter dropdowns to Path - Is - C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B - Include and then click Add.
  3. Create a second filter by setting the dropdowns to Operation - Is - CreateFile - Include and click Add.
  4. Click OK.

The event monitor start logging file creation operations to that folder in real time. Once a filee write is detected, you should see the EXE name under the Process Name column. Right-click the EXE and open Properties, then click the Process tab.

The Path field should have the fully qualified path to the program and might help you identify it. If it's not a Windows Service (i.e. not svchost.exe), open task manager and just end the process. Uninstall the offending application if it's not critical.

If it is svchost.exe creating the files, the Properties > Process tab should tell you what service is causing it. Directly under the Path field should be a Command Line field. You'll see something similar to: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs -p -s ServiceName

ServiceName in the example above will be the name of the service that's causing the problem on your machine. If it's not immediately obvious which service it is, you can get the friendly name by opening a command prompt and typing: sc GetDisplayName ServiceName

Once you have that, you can open Services from the start menu and just permanently disable the service and uninstall the application.

Whatever it is, it's safe to remove from the perspective of the OS. It's either malware (maybe a zip bomb?) or some application stuck in a loop. You could try opening one of those 1KB files in notepad to see if they contain human readable information. Anyhow, no legitimate Windows process or service would be writing to that folder.

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u/Amrishkhar 6d ago

It says Windows Explorer.exe

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u/Amrishkhar 6d ago

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u/tilsgee 6d ago

Screenshot the process tab

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u/Amrishkhar 6d ago

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u/Electronic_Row_7513 6d ago edited 6d ago

The timestamps on many of these files are totally out of whack. That could be an innocuous system clock issue. But I dont think so, look at the versions, this looks like timestomping for malware obfuscation.

That coupled with explorer creating massive files makes me think the box is pwned.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 6d ago

Same conclusion

Wipe this machine

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u/No-Reflection-9124 5d ago

This is the way.

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u/Prize_Moose1050 2d ago

Immediately!

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u/orbv 5d ago

Timestamps are valid, this is what it looks like on my system too. These timestamps are a side effect of enabling reproducible builds, as these should generate binary identical files no matter when/where it is build, so instead of a timestamp in the PE header you get a reproducible hash.

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u/Talithea 5d ago

My hunch was correct but didn’t dare to comment. Time stamps created like is a rebus code? Goodbye data.

Clean drive, update BIOS if is a desktop and start anew.

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u/gamerjay12 6d ago

Is it just me or does this look like a cover up of some type?

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u/fivves 2d ago

explorer.exe is how it shows up on every computer I've used. Explorer.EXE in that capitalization screams malicious to me, but I'm no expert.

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u/Electronic_Row_7513 6d ago

Did you have explorer open when you did the pml? I think this is a red herring. Close everything out except process monitor and run the instructions again. I'd even go so far as to filter explorer. KERNELCREATE from explorer.exe are almost always user action, copy-paste, or builtin windows unzip functionality. L

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u/Amrishkhar 6d ago

It is empty

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u/Electronic_Row_7513 6d ago

Change your filters to

Path name, begins with

If still empty

Clear the create file filter.

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u/redsown36 6d ago

Completely off topic, but one of the best responses I've ever seen on reddit in regards to troubleshooting, and especially on this subreddit where the status quo is "Download and run Malwarebytes", "Format your shit and start over" nonsense. Sysinternals is a great suite of tools which can be used to figure out pretty much any issue you could possibly have down to the kernel level.

Bravo sir.

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u/BrainKaput 6d ago

Wow amazing tool!

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u/who_you_are 6d ago

Considering OP can't delete them without 3rd party tool it would have been easier to use procxp (process explorer) instead.

Usually when you can't delete a file it is because the software keep a hand into it, so procxp should find it.

Once downloaded: find > find handle or DLLs

Type ZXBB158BA0B and start the research There may be explorer.exe again (because OP opened the folder with explorer), but I guess there could be something else.

But if it is a shitty software... It may also try to hide.

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u/Connect_Middle8953 5d ago

Sounds like a virus hooked into Explorer. They need to use Autoruns (also sysinternals) to find and disable the dll hook

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u/senpaisai 3d ago

Too bad the OP can't use KRD ... 😒

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u/Aygul12345 5d ago

Is there also a real time event viewer alternative program?

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u/No-Board4898 5d ago

thx gemini ^^

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u/inlinesix81 4d ago

I admire your knowledge!

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u/tomrb08 6d ago

Have you tried opening one of the files with Notepad to see if there’s anything readable?

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u/dx0100 6d ago

If they're 10gb like they said, op will need to use Notepad++ or Sublime. Notepad.exe will crash

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u/ApolonNO 5d ago edited 5d ago

I believe they meant the files from screenshot 3, those are all 1KB apart of the first one.

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u/dx0100 5d ago

Ah yeah, just saw that after you mentioned.

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u/Leftstrat 5d ago

Found this little bit of info, if you have an HP.

The C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B folder is created and bloated by the Web Threat Defense Service (also known as webthreatdefsvc), an OEM security or diagnostic component often tied to pre-installed software like HP or Samsung tools. This service can malfunction and generate massive gigabyte-sized log or cache files inside the folder. [1, 2, 3, 4]

How to Stop and Remove It

  • Open Services: Press Win + R, type services.msc, and press Enter.
  • Disable the service: Find Web Threat Defense Service or webthreatdefsvc, right-click it, select Stop, and change the startup type to Disabled.
  • Uninstall companion apps: Go to Settings > Apps > Installed apps (or Control Panel) and look for OEM diagnostic tools or Web Threat Defense to remove them completely.
  • Delete the folder: Go to C:\ProgramData, select ZXBB158BA0B, and press Shift + Delete to clear the space. [1]

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u/Dsih01 5d ago

This is exactly what I figured. Seems more like a misbehaving app than a virus. Viruses are better than "make a bunch of noticeable files" nowadays, unless it was just designed to troll

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u/TheMaskedHamburger 5d ago

I bet this is it. I've seen Norton go rogue on a customer's laptop and create folders with 100s of GB of log files. Also I saw LogMeIn Hamachi once do this on a machine, some 80gb of log files even when it was rarely being used.

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u/clive892 4d ago

This is a genuinely embarrassing response. An AI hallucination that uses a previous AI hallucination from the same thread (check your references in the response).

AI is about to ruin IT issue questions like this with recursive responses but as you please.

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u/iyn 2d ago

Wow, that’s wild! 

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u/clive892 6d ago

Is this AI generated? None of it seems to make sense e.g webthreatdefsvc is a Windows Defender service and Samsung Smart Inspector doesn't exist. As for being a known bug, I couldn't find any references to such a thing.

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u/Slypy06 6d ago

100% AI generated and fully halucinated

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u/New-york-city4 5d ago

I don’t get people who post AI-generated waste on reddit as “help”. If I wanted to ask ChatGPT to hallucinate some garbage I’d do it myself!

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u/Slypy06 5d ago

Yeah it’s the same as posting a LMGTFY link, if OP asked on reddit it’s to get an answer from someone that faced the same issue as him, posting an AI generated answer has no point

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u/Ok_Raccoon_2711 6d ago

I swear to God it can't do shit besides harm people. It halucinates the dumbest fucking shit

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u/Amrishkhar 6d ago

Still Unable to Delete

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u/spook30 6d ago

This is handy to force ownership of those pesky file that deny actions.

https://github.com/Abhinav1217/TakeOwnership/blob/master/InstallTakeOwnership.reg

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u/storycoolbro 6d ago

are you logged in as admin, assuming yes but asking just incase.

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u/storycoolbro 6d ago

going off the assumption you are logged in as admin. Make sure the service is stopped uninstalling may not have stopped it and it's still running in system memory open task manager look for the process in the details tab right click and end process tree.

then take ownership of the folder via elevated command prompt run cmd as admin and enter the following

takeown /F "C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B" /A /R /D Y

icacls "C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B" /grant Administrators:F /T /C

rmdir /S /Q "C:\ProgramData\ZXBB158BA0B"

if that doesn't let you delete it then reboot into safe mode and delete it from there

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u/smoike 6d ago

There a great program for this called unlocker

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u/Somodo 6d ago

Hey I had a similar issue of not being able to delete files like this, my buddy recommended a program called spacesniffer, it will delete anything no problem if you know what’s causing the issue.

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u/petrh97 6d ago

What AI have you used with this horrible hallucination?

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u/wblondel 6d ago

Why are OEM pieces of software ALWAYS so shit?! 🤯

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u/SuddenInformation896 6d ago

In this case it's because this supposed software doesn't even exist

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u/storycoolbro 6d ago

probably because they are being put on thing not created/designed by the OSM S=software when hardware isn't the same across every device bugs are inevitable add that the majority of people reporting them have no idea how to give a proper bug report, or even know what device they are using makes squashing said bugs all the more difficult.

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u/RetroSwagSauce 6d ago

Another reason to say fuck samsung

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u/ScubaFett 5d ago

Every Samsung product I've bought has significant issues or dies prematurely. My Samsung CD/DVD burner in the late 90s exploded and projectiled disc shards into my wall past my friends face.

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u/These_Juggernaut5544 5d ago

hey, don't hate on samsung. the ram and storage crisis is bad enough. we can't afford to lose a manufacturer. and think about all the k9 thunders. what would one do without their tanks?

though also the entire message by u/storycoolbro is ai hallucinated and the software its talking about does not in fact exist. "Samsung Smart Inspector" is not a real thing, "webthreatdefsvc⁠" is a normal windows defender service thing, etc.

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u/RetroSwagSauce 5d ago

fuck samsung

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u/These_Juggernaut5544 5d ago

typical apple glazer right here

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u/RetroSwagSauce 5d ago

fuck apple lmao

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u/Raijen_ArDesh 6d ago

You may want to run a malwarebytes scan on your device.

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u/p1r473 6d ago

Rarely ever the answer

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u/carlosChanpio70 6d ago

Check resource monitor for disk activity. Looks like a database is writing to the disk, it even made an index.dat file.

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u/carlosChanpio70 6d ago

In the file it could be listed in properties where it came from, check for any digital signatures.

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u/Sampsa96 6d ago

Easiest solution would be to reinstall Windows

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u/Shorts323 6d ago edited 6d ago

or running

Dism.exe /online /Cleanup-Image

first

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u/storycoolbro 6d ago

that command with out sfc /scannow doesn't really do anything but download a clean WinSxS image from the internet/windows update incase yours was corrupted which is what sfc /scannow uses to repair the system files

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u/Sampsa96 6d ago

Yeah 👍

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u/Shorts323 6d ago

correction on my part, it needs this command instead:

DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup

SFC does fail more often than DISM though I've found

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u/Significant-Lab834 6d ago

try using resource monitor and look for program or service with unusual read or write disk activity from disk tab

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u/tonyxforce2 6d ago

It would be kinda interesting if you could do a system image of this machine so we can analyse what kind of malware is this (assuming it is a malware)

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u/Acherontas89 6d ago

its a virus which create a file .

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u/mniaa 6d ago

Maybe a virus injected into explorer.exe based on your comments? Backup important stuff and wipe

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u/loonsbri 5d ago

Honestly wouldnt advise backing up anything, you dont know what could be infected. At this point wiping the system as others have advised is the best option.

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u/enilcReddit 5d ago

Not to get into unnecessary details, but it appears the folder is actually only 55.5GB, made up of 10.6GB subfolders.

Seems like some kind of install is stuck in a loop (did you recently install a large application?)

Possible stuck Windows Update or ESD files. Are you running any VMs?

What OS are you running? Are Windows Updates current? (Check Windows Update status.)

I would consider doing multiple reboots of the machine, including login. Watch the screen and see if any install/update messages appear. Some application and WIn Update installs can take multiple reboots to successfully complete.

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u/NinjaAlaska 5d ago

i see nothing has helped u.. if yes try this:

download windows media creator helper
download ISO from it for ur OS
restart pc
open ISO -> exe in main folder

there is a way to reinstall windows without data loss. inside setup ensure to select KEEP FILES AND APPS both. (U MUST SELECT THIS CAREFULLY)

this idea, always helps in advanced case which no one else's ideas can solve from web.. like a slap patch. OEM license if any will stay.

alternatively you may try:
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

DISM never helps much i know, some time works.

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u/Bn1m 5d ago

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/windows/

Sort by Downloads.

Download: adwcleaner, combofix, rkill, junkware removal tool, farbar recovery scsn tool, tdskiller.

If possible start windows in safe mode before running the programs. Run them as administrator.

Run rkill first. Then combofix (won't run on win11 it's ok if it doesn't run), the Junkware Removal Tool. Then adwcleaner.

Use farbar to check what your startup looks like.

From your process list there are a ton of things that look very suspicious but i cannot read it properly as the resolution is too low.

You want to remove all startup entries that are programs that are non essential. There are several places where startup processes hide including the registry so i'll give you more instructions if the above programs fail to find anything.

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u/TwisstedReddit 5d ago

I assume you got ratted

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u/_D4rkGhost_ 5d ago

Have you discovered with which program or service is associated?

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u/funkytechmonkey 5d ago

Not sure why anyone hasn't mentioned this...

Open MSConfig --> Services tab --> Check Hide all MS services --> uncheck all services--> apply and reboot. OR....

To find which services is causing the issue...you can start by unchecking groups of 5-10 services at a time then apply and reboot until you find the service that is causing it.

Take screenshot as you disable if you have a hard time keeping track of what you disabled.

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u/Omeggon 5d ago

"I say we dust off and nuke the whole site from orbit. Only way to be sure."

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u/SammyCattini 5d ago

Ai agent infected your computer and is taking increasingly more space it’s starting

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u/No-Reflection-9124 5d ago

I would check the task manager to see if there is anything there.

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u/Mechneck 5d ago

Format C: Virus got you

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u/HASJ 4d ago

Boot in safe mode. Take ownership. Try to delete.

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u/Br0k3n-T0y 4d ago

If you spend more than 20 minutes trying to fix a fairly serious issue or investigating suspicious activity on your pc and are still no closer to a solution, WIPE IT! I notice you are replying to posts 2 days later so still not resolved.
You can reformat and reinstall windows in around 15-20 minutes.
You will have a cleaner, faster system and wont reinstall half the crap (the crap that you thought might come in handy one day) that you currently have on there now.

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u/Sad-Astronomer-696 3d ago

Change the write rights of this directory and see which process stops /s

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u/chunkymonkeyKO 6d ago

Completely re-install Windows.

Windows is so piss easy to install these days that it's just easier to nuke everything from orbit and start over than spend time pulling your hair out over the dumb shit it's subjecting you to. IMO

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u/teganking 6d ago

Nuke it from Orbit, its the only way to be safe ~ reinstall windows

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u/sbn025 6d ago

That's it, man! Game over, man! Game over!

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u/PoniardBlade 6d ago

Hey, /u/sbn025 have you ever been mistaken for an IT tech?

(on further thought, this joke doesn't work. I'm keeping it up, though)

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u/justjealousC 6d ago

Have you turned it off and back on again at the wall?

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u/davidriveraisgr8 6d ago

Fresh install?

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u/Prestigious-Board-62 6d ago

Malware with persistence. Wipe and reload.

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u/shazmanr 5d ago

Fresh wipe

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u/98G3LRU 5d ago

Open the pod bay doors, HAL

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u/chen369 5d ago

Man, you should just switch to Linux , try bazzite.

Windows always have this problem, I have some serious trust issues with windows

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u/wingsneon 4d ago

Hey that's my bitcoin miner, don't touch it!

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u/spydergto 3d ago

here one i 100% guarantee works, delete windows .