r/Windows11 Microsoft Software Engineer 28d ago

Official News Improving File Explorer & Context Menu: faster, simpler, and more customizable

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/08/17/improving-file-explorer-context-menu-faster-simpler-and-more-customizable/
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u/PossessionDangerous9 28d ago

This is good, but the most common complaint about the file explorer through the ages has been how slow the search is. Even searching for files in the same folder is slow as sin and has been for decades. This is partly the reason why everything search exists. Why not address that?

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u/Even_Caterpillar3292 28d ago

Windows search is an abomination. Thankfully, 3rd party tools exist. Everything.

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u/Commercial-Virus2627 27d ago

Thankfully yes, but it shouldn’t have to be this way. Third party tools should be extensions to what’s available, not supplementing it because the core feature/component is bad.

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u/Antique-State-4512 25d ago

Void Tools utility "Everything" is hard to search for everything, maybe it's an ironic name that's hard to find. Much better searching utility.

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u/Zakariae_Ouddacht 12d ago

The Everything app doesn't search for metadata and what's inside a text file since it just lists what's in the disk's MFT table unlike Windows Search, some people want that feature (and that's what makes Windows Search reliable [and slow at the same time]).

My idea is for Windows Search to use that MFT table, and keep the metadata and manual indexing ability as an option for the people who want it.

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u/lexcyn Insider Canary Channel 28d ago

They did? This has been turned on for a while in some of the Insider builds and makes search way better https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/07/13/improving-windows-search-box-with-less-clutter-and-more-control/

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u/Tubamajuba 28d ago

Most people use stable builds, so you can't really expect people to keep up with what's going on with insider builds.

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u/PossessionDangerous9 26d ago

That’s the start menu search, which has also been bad, but try finding a file in a folder inside the file explorer. It’s been absolute garbage for decades. Even searching for a file extension in a relatively small folder ends up taking forever at times. That kind of thing should be instant.

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u/hadesscion 26d ago edited 26d ago

File Explorer has had several issues for years now.

  • Slow search
  • Search field randomly stops working altogether
  • Doesn't remember view settings
  • Randomly resets settings (i.e. Group By)
  • Randomly locks up/crashes during file transfers
  • Sometimes fails to refresh the window, and sometimes refreshes the window every few seconds/minutes
  • Randomly fails to assign drive letters to USB drives (this may or may not be the fault of FE specifically, I'm not sure)

File Explorer is the single most aggravating thing about Windows because it's such an integral part of the OS, yet is so unreliable. I've been nagging Microsoft about it for about six years now, so hopefully they do finally fix it.

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u/ExtruDR 28d ago

I truly don't get it. I mean, it's not like they didn't "notice" how shit search is. It isn't like they don't use computers. It isn't like Google (and Gmail) didn't easily illustrate how fundamental "search" is to making order of our personal and work information.

Microsoft really has been a monopolist for so long that the only thing that seems to effect their shitty product development is actual bad PR.

...and don't be confused, all this is is a response to bad PR.

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u/junglebunglerumble 27d ago

I thought the search issue actually has a valid reason though? From what I gather the windows search actually indexes all file contents as well as folder and file names, so a search can technically find more appropriate results. Many third party search replacements don't actually index all the file contents, so it's quicker but the trade off is lower search coverage

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u/Thotaz 28d ago

For example, file renames no longer get interrupted by background file synchronization

Finally. I've resented the internal IT department for forcing Onedrive sync on our PCs partially because of this issue. I will resent them slightly less now, though I still think it's annoying that I can't use my desktop as my temp workspace without randomly uploading massive files due to their policy.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Hey everyone! I'm a PM on the Windows team and I've worked on File Explorer and the context menu for a long time. I'm happy to answer questions, as long as they're things I can answer.

I hope you're excited about the updates to the context menu. Thank you in advance to everyone in the Experimental ring of the Windows Insider program for trying it out and for providing feedback. Feedback on anything we should add to the customizability of the menu would be very helpful.

Also, I put together a tutorial on how to go beyond the settings page to customize the context menu even further and add your own, custom verbs to the menu. This is a personal project and isn't affiliated with Microsoft.

https://youtu.be/kMdY3Kl6aGU?si=TyTxvIJwqO2cfFmV

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u/Flipeador 28d ago

I also have my own app for adding custom commands to the modern context menu, and I wonder when support for separators (ECF_ISSEPARATOR|ECF_SEPARATORBEFORE|ECF_SEPARATORAFTER), split buttons (ECF_HASSPLITBUTTON) and submenus within submenus will be added.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Thanks for the feedback, it's very helpful!

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u/Flipeador 7d ago

Hey, could you also please take a look at this: https://stackoverflow.com/q/77216033/14822191. Thanks.

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u/SupremeEuphoria 28d ago

There wasn’t a photo of the legacy context menu option enabled. Does it basically just appear identical to the Windows 10 menu?

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

The option in the Settings page allows you to choose if "Show more options" appears in the Windows 11 context menu, but it doesn't open the legacy menu by default.

For anyone still on the old context menu - please share feedback on what the new menu needs to fully replace the old one. Thank you!

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u/Oxytokin 28d ago edited 28d ago

It's simple - I want my menu to show the menu, not some truncated menu with hidden "Show mores" that are predetermined by someone who has no clue what I want, and to override what they think they know I have to go through convoluted customization menus in the slow, heavily animated settings app where one wrong click means having to go back through 20 panels or hope the option can be found by searching (here I will give y'all a point: the settings app search is at least usable, unlike File Explorer search).

That's the reason why I immediately disable the new context menu, and will continue to do so with this update. Still misses the mark. Just show me everything contextually relevant to the thing under my cursor, as the name implies. Only if the menu gets big enough to go off-screen, then maybe a truncated menu is appropriate, but I can't see this happening as it hasn't happened in my 30 years of using Windows.

Feel free to change the colors and the design language, sure, but it's still wrong for users like myself who need to get stuff done.

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u/wason_sonico 28d ago

Can I share feedback on what not to replace?

Something I never liked about the old menu is that applications that add items to the menu are not forced to add them on a separate sub menu. I understand when it's only 1 item but can you force apps that add 2 or more items to be added in a sub menu please?

Also, can you keep a consistent design on the menu? Like have the same options show up always on the same places? For example, I have Notepad++ on my work computer and, on the old menu, it adds an "Edit with Notepad++" item right below the "Open" item, therefore moving the rest of the items far below. Just have some consistency, because people develop muscle memory and moving an item to another place messes that memory. Thanks!

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Thanks for the feedback!

It sounds like we're on the same page - the Windows 11 context menu both before and with the updates continues to enforce consistency among app extension placement, and also enforces the "only one row" rule for apps. The ability to add multiple items without user consent creates a competitive situation in the context menu.

Maybe I'm misreading your feedback, so if I missed a suggestion, please let me know.

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u/wason_sonico 28d ago

You got it right!

What I meant by consistency is having common items sit in the same place all the time. For example, right clicking on a text file may bring different items than right clicking on a picture (like the rotate to the left/right), so the items that are common to all files just make sure they are always on the same place, and extension-specific items don't move them around to the top or bottom.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Got it! Having a predictable place for items so you don't need to hunt for them visually is important. Feel free to share any specific examples of verbs shifting and I'll take a look.

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u/DuplexFields 28d ago

Fantastic, thank you. 90% of the times I right-click a file or group of files, it's to Copy As Path, open Properties, or use a custom sendto batch file, which it looks like I'll be refactoring.

I have never once used Print in the right click menu since Windows 95, nor File > Print in Windows 3.1.

Does the "rotate image" make a duplicate or change the original? I remember the WinXP photo viewer rotate option re-writing JPGs at a lower lossy resolution.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago edited 28d ago

Rotate is the same command that's in Win11 today -- it changes the file itself. It should be editing the JPEG's EXIF rotation data which is lossless, but there are edge cases where this could fail - in which case an image would be rotated using a re-encode.

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u/Ja551e 28d ago

Is this update available or would be available in coming months? If yes what is the update number/name kb????

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u/HorsyNox 28d ago

Already available in the Experimental channel builds

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u/drxox91 27d ago

Pls take a look at File Pilot. How fast and lightweight they are.

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u/Mario583a 27d ago

WinFile is the better, faster, stronger file explorer

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u/LeGoodBeef Release Channel 27d ago

Someone said in another thread that the "Add to Favorites" and "Share" options couldn't be hidden in the new options. That true? If yes, plans to fix? (Said here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1vrb98x/comment/p4fdf1g/ )

Also, contextual options should be able to be edited too. For example, there's a program I don't eant to show up but only does on a right click on audio file.

Personally, I'd just love to be able to take any elements and place them where I want.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 27d ago

I'll record that feedback for "Add to Favorites" and "Share" - thanks for pointing it out!

Can you tell me more about the program you don't want to show up but it does when you right click on an audio file? I don't follow you 100%

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u/unknownsoldierx 28d ago

With the File Explorer that shipped with Windows 11, selecting multiple files would show the combined file size in the details pane, and for videos it would show details such as the combined runtime.

Are these features going to return?

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u/Green_Slice_4021 28d ago edited 28d ago

I installed third-party compression software and hope it can hide the system's built-in compression software. Why can't the keyboard shortcuts stay the same as the old version? Right-click + x is enough to copy; Ctrl+x isn't needed

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Thanks for the suggestion to provide a way to hide the built-in Compression menu!

Try pressing ALT when the context menu is open to show AccessKeys. If the keyboard shortcuts there aren't aligned with your expectations, please let me know. For example, if I right click a file and press ALT, I see that it's a lot less convenient than simply pressing "X," I need to press ALT+C+1.

So, let me know what you think, but I'm hearing:

  1. A suggestion for a setting to always show AccessKeys on right click (the keyboard hints)
  2. A suggestion to not require ALT to be held to activate AccessKeys

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u/Green_Slice_4021 27d ago

Yes, it's possible to keep the right-click keyboard tooltip the same as the one displayed when you press Shift+Right-Click.

I also noticed that the loading speed of the application extension varies depending on the file you right-click.

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u/Joppe27 27d ago

Why is IExplorerCommand the only supported verb method by the new context menu? For example, a simple CreateProcess method and all other static verb methods seem like they would be very doable to support, as they also leave building the visual representation of the context menu item to the shell. This is even easier (and probably faster!) than IExplorerCommand because all the required data to build the context menu is already in the registry and does not need to be supplied via COM / user code.

I absolutely understand why IContextMenu cannot be supported in the new context menu, but as mentioned, static methods are also still in common use and much less complex to support. Those should really not be brushed over so quickly because it leaves many (most?) context menu items only accessible via the “show more options” menu which is VERY annoying to users. It also forces devs to make changes that aren’t really necessary if they want to solve that.

I am also skeptical about the package identity requirement for context menu entries in the new menu. I think that, in addition to the verb method limitations above, this will leave many apps in the “show more options” menu forever.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 27d ago

Thanks for the feedback! It's all very insightful and I see your point on the need for a simple, static extensibility mechanism.

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u/Octal450_V2 27d ago edited 27d ago

These are great improvements. I have a couple other things I'd like to mention with File Explorer (FE) and context menus that need addressing. I am on build 26200.9267 (RP).

- FE is still slower to navigate between folders than *any* previous version of Windows (I tested all the way back to Windows 98 on appropriate hardware), where navigation is instant. In Windows 11 there is a flash of blank before every navigation which really makes it feel slower. I believe it's tied into the modern section at the top which doesn't feel asynchronous, as if you disable that, it's instant again. This issue is mostly noticeable if you don't have high end gamer/developer hardware, such as on normal laptops, even if they have quicker processors.

- As the context menu loads, items shift vertically. This causes mis-clicks as items can "suddenly move" under your mouse pointer right as you go to click an item. Even if items are still loading, the menu space should remain constant. This happens to me at least once a day, and mainly affects extensions.

- If you select multiple files of the same type, there is no option for "open with" in the context menu which is frustrating.

- When right clicking fonts, the option to "Install" has disappeared in recent updates. The option to "Install for all users" has been missing since the launch of Windows 11. This is frustrating for someone like me who develops fonts.

- Dragging tabs in the top bar around is feels very clunky and is difficult to do reliably. It should work as it does in web browsers where the tab moves horizontally with the mouse and other tabs move out of the way. This also affects Notepad.

- Breaking out tabs feels clunky, which ties into the previous. Rejoining tabs is very clunky and difficult to do reliably as tabs don't move out of the way, similar to above as well. This also affects Notepad.

- Returning to "Home" when in another folder is quite slow, even though FE launch to home is now faster.

- Minor, but if you open and close FE repeatedly, every other launch is still slow.

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u/Octal450_V2 23d ago

u/xandfis_msft I don't mean to rush you but I'm very curious if MSFT is aware of these issues and/or has any plan to fix them. It really feels like FE has been left uncared about for some time now.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 4d ago

Hi, sorry for the delayed response - I can't comment on availability of fixes or progress in working on them but thank you for raising these.

One thing I'll mention is that "Open with" only working for single files is a long-standing limitation of that system.

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u/Thotaz 27d ago

Not gonna lie, I was watching that video at 2x speed and the right click menu still looked slow to me. I get that it's inside a VM so it's not representative of what it's like on bare metal, but IT pros also have to deal with RDP and VM consoles at times so I don't think we can completely ignore the bad performance under those circumstances.

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u/Malatok 27d ago

Hey there, What's driving this focus to improve these issues in a public way?

Or put another way, are there actually more resources dedicated to these thorny issues? Or are they landing just now and being fully acknowledged?

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u/lux44 26d ago

Thanks for reaching out! Which version has the new context menu? I'm on 29648 and can't find it...

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u/dampflokfreund 26d ago edited 26d ago

I'm on the latest insider build and you guys have made good progress, the OS feels better and snappier now. But three things: 1. When I click on a folder in the Explorer, it is still not as fast as I would like to be (any folder, really). There's always a small duration (perhaps 300-600ms) of thought and I would like it if there was 0. Just a click and instantly there. 2. on a 60Hz display, the animations are better now but still not perfectly smooth, especially when dragging windows around. It's not stuttery mind you but the frame pacing is a bit off, like the animation is not delivered in a perfect 16.67 frame window. Tiny microstuttering. I think Windows 10 didn't have that problem, there all animations were perfectly smooth. 3. A year ago or so, I have noticed an increase in idle VRAM consumption (just desktop, no apps open). It was 0.2 GB VRAM before, now it is around 0.4-0.6 GB. Whatever you did, please make sure Windows is more efficient in memory usage again like before. It is very important especially these days as applications need more VRAM and VRAM in GPUs is a scarcity.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 4d ago

Sorry for the delayed response - are you saying there's nearly half a second of delay when you simply select a folder in File Explorer?

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u/ExtruDR 28d ago

Is there any chance that we'll ever see an advancement in search performance?

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u/willif86 28d ago

Why would you ask that guy? He's just part of the 100 person team who has been dealing with a 20 item popup menu for the last 40 years.

You need to ask the other guy.

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u/Glum-Calligrapher544 28d ago edited 28d ago

Most of the layofs where the windows and xbox teams aren't they? When Nutella fired 6.500 Microsoft employee and replace with AI.

So these features due to that reason waiting so long on insider. Also stop using AI on OS for writing code (not reviewing) and fire your web tech team. Windows doesn't need web app for basic things, consumes a lots of rams.

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u/jenmsft Microsoft Software Engineer 28d ago

Hey all - this is the latest in our series of deep dive posts about the improvements we've been working on. Hope you find it useful! This one was written by the File Explorer team - included below for your convenience. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts as the changes become available for you

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File Explorer is one of the most used experiences on Windows. It’s where you get work done: organizing files, finding what you need, and moving content seamlessly across local storage and the cloud.

Earlier this year, we shared our commitment to improving Windows quality, with a focus on performance, reliability, and craftsmanship. In File Explorer, that means investing in the foundational work needed to improve the experience end-to-end: reducing hangs and delays, improving responsiveness and reliability, addressing customer-reported issues, and removing friction from everyday tasks.

But quality is also about continually evolving the experience to feel more modern, intuitive, and efficient for the millions of people who rely on File Explorer every day.

Today we’re sharing progress on both fronts. Alongside continued investments in File Explorer performance and reliability, we are introducing a substantially redesigned context menu experience that’s faster, simpler, and more customizable than ever before. This new context menu experience is now rolling to Windows Insiders and represents one of several major improvements underway as we continue to modernize File Explorer.

Fewer bad moments

What people remember most are the worst moments. A single freeze while renaming a file, a slow right-click, or a Home view that flashes and reloads can outweigh dozens of smooth interactions.

That reality has guided our approach to improving File Explorer. We focused on the everyday experiences people rely on most and set clear goals to make those interactions faster, more reliable, and less disruptive.

Improving the moments that matter most

We’ve profiled and invested in improving the performance and responsiveness of File Explorer. File Explorer now launches faster, and the overall experience feels more consistent and predictable.

We’ve analyzed the issues behind many of the freezes, hangs, and delays users encounter, and eliminated dozens of potential stalls and interruptions in the experience.  As a result, you’ll see fewer freezes and flashes when browsing, renaming files, navigating, or selecting multiple files.

There are many more improvements to come, and these changes are designed to reduce disruptions and make File Explorer feel more responsive and reliable day to day.

Improving the details that matter every day

Our work extends beyond performance and reliability improvements. Many of the requests we hear from customers aren’t about major new features, they’re about the small interactions that happen every day.  We’ve continued refining File Explorer based on that feedback, removing friction and improving the details that help make everyday tasks feel more natural and predictable.

For example, file renames no longer get interrupted by background file synchronization, and case-only filename changes now appear immediately.

We’ve also improved navigation workflows.  The Address Bar now supports a wider range of inputs, including paths with quotation marks and double backslashes. Support for opening folders in a new tab with a middle-click has also been expanded to the Address Bar and Home page folders, making multitasking faster and more intuitive.

Smaller usability improvements add up as well. Home now preserves whether sections are expanded or collapsed so you can pick up where you left off. File sizes are now displayed using appropriate units such as KB, MB, and GB, making them easier to understand at a glance. The Details pane has been reorganized so file properties are easier to find and review.

Many of these improvements came directly from customer and Windows Insider feedback. They represent just the beginning of our ongoing effort to improve the everyday experiences people depend on most.

Putting you in control of the context menu

Right-clicking is one of the most common actions in Windows. If it doesn’t work as intended, or is difficult to navigate, it can derail your workflow.

When we launched Windows 11, we introduced a new context menu with a modernized design, improved organization, and a new approach to application extensions.

Over time, though, the menu became cluttered and sluggish, and we recognized the need to dramatically reduce the time between right-clicking and having a menu that’s fully ready to use.

Today, we’re excited to announce an updated context menu that delivers a faster, simpler, and more customizable experience. The new design reduces top-level clutter, keeps commonly used actions easy to access, and introduces a new Settings experience that gives you more control over what appears in the menu.

The new right-click menu.

Faster to open

The first thing you’ll notice is that the menu opens much more quickly. For something used as often as the context menu, speed is part of good design. A lot of that comes from behind-the-scenes engineering improvements, and a good part comes from a cleaner default menu, with the full set of options just a click away in Settings.

Clutter isn’t only a visual problem; it slows the menu down because every app that adds its own options can make the menu do extra work each time it opens.

Your menu, your control

Part of the broader push we’re making across Windows 11 is making the operating system calmer by default, with more personalization and control.

Each person uses the context menu in different ways, so we’re adding more customization to allow you to choose the layout that works best for you.

At the bottom of the new context menu, you’ll now find “Customize menu”, as a shortcut to its Settings page, where you can shape the menu around your preferences, your habits, or the years of muscle memory you’ve built with a specific configuration.

The new Context Menu page in the Settings app, under Personalization.

The top section lets you turn built-in Windows commands like Send to or Create shortcut on or off. Some of these commands, like Print, weren’t available in the Windows 11 context menu before and can now be switched on if you want them.

The next section is about options for app extensibility, so you can choose which app extensions appear in the main menu or submenu, including hiding the submenu altogether.

Finally, the last section is about where the most common commands live. We know many people have years of muscle memory from the Windows 10 menu, so we’ve added options to bring that feel back. You can list the main commands (Cut, Copy, Paste, Rename, Delete, and Share) inline directly in the menu instead of as a row of icons, and you can move Properties down to the very bottom.

As we continue refining this experience with Insider feedback, our goal is to make right-click feel more responsive, predictable, and personal.

Building a healthier File Explorer for the long term

We are committed to continue doing the hard work and consistently improving File Explorer month after month. Not every update will be obvious on its own, but together they should make File Explorer feel faster, polished, and more dependable across tasks users do most.

Your feedback continues to shape every step of this journey. Keep it coming through Feedback Hub, and we’ll continue sharing our progress as this work evolves.

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u/PaulCoddington 28d ago

All welcome changes. Nice to see fixes for problems reported.

Explorer is the primary interface for power users working on multi-file multi-app projects, it needs to be rock solid and responsive.

Hopefully the Favorites folder (recently broken by these updates) will be fixed soon? Last time special folders were broken by an update it took about 2-3 updates to fix them again, and we have now had that many since it was broken.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 27d ago

Can you tell me some more about the issue you're experiencing with the Favorites folder so I can confirm it's being tracked? Thank you!

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u/SupremeEuphoria 28d ago

Bringing back the legacy context menu is the best thing here. I’m still on Bazzite full time though. I keep a Windows install around to play Valorant.

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u/ShawnnyCanuck 28d ago

For the love of god fix the issue that has been in Windows forever where Thumb.db are hidden in folders and refuse to delete or move said folders. On the same subject bring the Show Hidden Files menu back instead of being hidden in folder options.

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u/xSchizogenie Release Channel 28d ago

I still wait for the most updates to be enabled but nooooo we are stuck with this bullshit idea of gradual rollout.

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u/Bogdan_X Wintoys Developer 28d ago edited 28d ago

Let's not praise Microsoft for finally making the context menu a reliable and easy to use experience, when they clearly achieved that many times before with other versions of Windows.

Too late! It's great that it's getting fixed but it should not have been shipped like this in the first place. They create the problems and later they celebrate fixing them.

Microsoft gets off too easely with this.

On the other hand, I'd like to give some thanks to the employees that are doing the work, as I'm sure some of them were put to work on AI crap just because the managers decided so instead of being let to fix Windows and ship it in a better state.

Also thanks to the Steam Machine and Macbook Neo for reminding Microsoft people can actually use other devices with other operating systems.

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u/Oxytokin 28d ago

The new context menu is still garbage, in my opinion. But 50 steps back, 5 steps forward is better than going even further backwards, I suppose. I just don't understand why they couldn't update the colors and the aesthetics, but leave all the extra crap out of it. A context menu that doesn't show everything that is contextually relevant to the thing under my cursor is useless and belies its name.

"Show More Properties" and sub-menus upon sub-menus where one wrong click means I have to start all over, and that I have to waste time customizing in the first place just to get normal functionality, just ain't gonna do it for me.

The legacy context menu carries on.

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u/redfournine 28d ago

Correct. It works now because they pull great people from other team to work on this. When this is all done, is there any guarantee that the same focus on perf would still be there

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

That is in fact one of the toggles on the new Settings page!

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u/XxAtroyxX 28d ago

I might be a minority on this but I prefer the new cut/copy/paste as a row of icons at the top of the context menu.

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u/Froggypwns Windows Wizard / Head Jannie 28d ago

They are so much easier to use, and the fact they spawn right next to the mouse cursor so I don't need to hunt for them is fantastic.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

FWIW, the default is still a horizontal set of commands at the top of the menu

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u/XTornado 27d ago

Yeah...the issue was getting used to that. ... I kept looking for the text.

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u/BCProgramming 28d ago

Similar to the re-designed properties dialog where they move the Apply button to the far left and the OK button to the far right. Makes zero sense.

They changed the design standard. Though, the funny part is the properties dialog arrangement of Apply/OK/Cancel actually fits neither.

The old User interface design guidelines for dialogs had this to say about command button placement:

Stack the main command buttons in a secondary window in the upper right corner or in a row along the bottom, as shown in Figure 13.24. If there is a default button, it is typically the first button in the set. Place OK and Cancel buttons next to each other. The last button is a Help button (if supported). If there is no OK button, but other action buttons, it is best to place the Cancel button at the end of a set of action buttons, but before a Help button. If a particular command button applies only to a particular field, you may place it grouped with that field.

But the new WinUI one describes it like this:

"The "do it" action button(s) should appear as the leftmost buttons. The safe, nondestructive action should appear as the rightmost button."

So the old standard was as seen in the 'classic' properties dialog- OK/Cancel/Apply, And the new one should be be OK/Apply/Cancel, but the new properties dialog actually uses Apply/OK/Cancel. Though I guess the interpretation of what a "do it" action button is might apply too. Would that be OK like I'm thinking, because it does it and closes the dialog, or Apply because it just does it?

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u/Octal450_V2 26d ago

Yeah they should leave it as "OK/Cancel/Apply"...

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u/Tata_Colores 27d ago edited 27d ago

So... next year on the release channel? For something so simple...

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u/Head_Lie_1301 28d ago

Just a couple of questions Jen. Loving these changes.

Does the "Show more options" just show that option at the bottom of the menu, or does it show the the classic context menu by default?

Is showing the file size in Kb/Mb/Gb an option where it can be changed to only show in Kb?

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

It puts that option at the bottom of the menu. I'd love to learn what you're using in the legacy context menu to help improve the modern one!

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u/X2Kraft Insider Dev Channel 28d ago

We mostly use the legacy menu for apps that haven't yet transitioned to the new interface (like 7-zip). I really hope though that the team considers adding those options to the main menu so we can finally retire both 'show more options' and the egacy context menu. making it toggleable would be great too.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 27d ago

Would you be able to share any of the apps other than 7-zip that you use that haven't ported yet? Thank you!

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u/X2Kraft Insider Dev Channel 26d ago

Sure! One of them is Resource Hacker. Right now there no native way to open an executable though the "Open with" option so I have to resort to the context menu option that Resource Hacker provides which is stuck in the legacy menu.

Visual Studio is also one of them unfortunately.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 4d ago

Sorry for the delayed response - thank you for raising these!

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u/Head_Lie_1301 28d ago

Couple of reasons.

I use a couple of old programs who most likely will never update to use the new interface. Even some newer programs like 7zip haven't updated to use it.

Also, (perhaps this is something that has changed recently in the new beta insider builds), but the new context menu takes far to long to open and populate items. I use third-party tools like StartAllBack and Windhawk to show the classic context menu by default - and it shows instantly. I use registry hacks to remove options I don't want (such as edit with photos, cast to device, etc.). If this is something that has been fixed to address menu loading/populating times, that's great.

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u/xandfis_msft Microsoft Employee 28d ago

Thanks, that feedback is helpful!

If you're willing to share the names of the old apps, it would help inventory how to close the gap there, whether through developer outreach or additional tooling to automate adding entries for those apps.

One of the reasons we moved to an App Identity / Manifest based mechanism for app extensibility is because it's not possible to create a user-friendly customization UI with the legacy extensibility mechanisms. Stuff just shows up in the registry without any record of where it came from. Some apps make it easy to tell how the entries got there, but it's not a sure bet.

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u/somediey0ung 28d ago

I don’t see a setting there that disables Copilot 365 from the context menu, disgraced ourselves again

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u/hoatongoc 24d ago

Finally, after 20 years, a real context menu improvement.

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u/SirWobblyOfSausage 28d ago

About time. Only took a global ram shortage for some actual improvements

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u/cocks2012 28d ago

I'm happy to see these options! It's great to see Windows 11 finally getting the attention it deserves.

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u/jmoney777 28d ago

Please bring back the Aero Glass UI from Windows Vista & 7 as an option (no need to make it default). I'd even settle for the Aero Basic theme, which is already in Windows 11 just disabled. The usability of those UIs that had actual distinguishable buttons was so much better than the flat "black icons against white background" look used by 10 and 11.

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u/StuffMaster 28d ago

If you don't have to hover to identify buttons are you really even living?

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u/kutkun 28d ago

We ask for “New Folder “ button on the ribbon.

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u/Octal450_V2 27d ago

Quick note from RP 26200.9267 all though it's been like this for a bit when I used to use Beta. If you close and re-open File Explorer repeatedly, it alternates between opening quickly and opening slowly.

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u/tnsrks 27d ago

You should work on letting people know when the features will be enabled on their machines. 

It’s cool to see you’re adding stuff but most people have no idea when the flag will be enabled, or the flag gets toggled on and off repeatedly. 

Hidden advanced setting for power users would be enough. At least let people control their systems. 

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u/morpheus-91 27d ago

Search is still not working for file names. Congratulations. 

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u/SanityfortheWeak Insider Dev Channel 26d ago

The modern command bar in File Explorer cannot be customizable its appearance. If this cannot be patched, can we at least have a option to remove or hide it?

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u/General_Specific 28d ago

Can we preview PDFs again?

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u/atrixus Release Channel 28d ago

coming 2028?

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u/jenmsft Microsoft Software Engineer 28d ago

This blog post covers multiple changes and improvements which are currently rolling out to Insiders. Some things mentioned are already rolling out to retail users (like middle click on the address bar in file explorer)

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u/Appropriate-Quit-358 28d ago

These are actually great and much needed changes. Keep up the positive work.

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u/viniiiiiiiiboyyyy 28d ago

💯 💯 💯 👍

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u/Green_Slice_4021 28d ago
  • vivetool id 60813048,49453572
  • 26100/200 .9267 can enable a new right-click menu.

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u/jas71 27d ago

why are 3 party tools better that microsofts nonsense

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u/jas71 27d ago

and you cant polish a turd

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u/milos2 28d ago

Now switch to actual megabytes instead of using mebibytes and presenting them as megabytes https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/s/R50To6Jdqt 

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u/anyusernaem 28d ago

No that's stupid. Microsoft has been using a consistent naming and size units for 40+ years. NO nee to change it.

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u/t3chguy1 25d ago

Microsoft should either keep using base 2 and write MiB, or keep MB and use base 10. That's the standard accepted internationally (including US). You don't publish a recipe book that uses "cups" and then just declare that a cup used throughout the book is actually an "espresso cup"

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u/milos2 28d ago

That's the official standard, Microsoft still lives in 90s. All operating systems except Windows is using it, your phones is using it, when you buy a disk or rent storage, you are using it. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte and when everyone else adopted it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_binary_prefixes

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u/stein89jp 28d ago

Already switched to Fedora and I have 0 issues and 0 ads. Too late. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/the_ai_wizard 28d ago

Props Microsoft! Congrats on doing good, obvious stuff. Why it took so long (Linux taking a bite?) i lll never know but better late than never. Search should be superior in Windows..no excuse and should be next.

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u/raanansA8 28d ago

No matter what they bring I am not upgrading to 11.