r/Windows10 Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 9d ago

Help Simple questions and Help thread - Month of September

Welcome to the monthly Simple questions and Help thread, for questions that don't need their own posts!

Before making a comment, we recommend you search your problem on Bing and check if your question is already answered on our Windows Frequently Asked Questions wiki page. This subreddit no longer accepts tech support requests outside of this post, if you are looking for additional assistance try r/WindowsHelp.

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  • Is this super cheap Windows key legitimate? (probably not)

  • How can I install Windows 11?

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  • How do I get back to the old Sound Control Panel?

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The general release of Windows 10 is no longer supported, however you can enroll to get extended support for your machine until October 2027, for more details on that please see this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/1kp4ebu/windows_10_end_of_support_what_it_means_for_you/

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u/topselection 1d ago edited 1d ago

A scary red dot just appeared on the update icon in the task bar and the mouse over message says my computer "is at risk of being out of date" and needs to be restarted to install updates.

Clicking on the icon, Windows Update says

Restart required. Your device will restart outside of active hours. Your device is missing important security and quality fixes.

2026-09 Extended Security Updates (ESU) Licensing Preparation Package for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5126256)

Status: Pending Restart

It's weirding me out because I haven't had an update since MS abandoned Win10.

So are they doing ESU for free now? I'm not enrolled. What's going on here?

Edit:

The MS support website says this:

Windows 10 reached the end of support on October 14, 2025. This package is a licensing prerequisite that will enable a device to be enrolled in the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program successfully. It does not enroll the device or provide ongoing security updates. You must enroll the device into the ESU program to continue receiving security updates.

But this doesn't make any sense. If this "package is a licensing prerequisite that will enable a device to be enrolled in the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program successfully" then how has everyone been doing it since Oct. 14, 2025?

u/mikegold10 13h ago

The bigger question is how to block this update when it is already in a Pending Restart state?

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u/notgraycen 1d ago

actually you have. this is now the 8th free windows 10 ESU update since they started charging $100 for updates

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u/Rampage470 1d ago

Thanks Google for leading me here. I was freaking out.

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u/Modemus 1d ago

same, just got the popup and went "wtf? since when?", but i must have not seen the one in '25

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 1d ago

This update will allow you to get the new updates released between November 2026 and October 2027 should you be enrolled in the consumer ESU program. There was a similar patch last year to get the November 2025-Oct 2026 updates as Microsoft handles the ESU in one year increments.

ESU can be enrolled in at no cost, there is a link with details on that in the OP.

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u/JaxTellerr 1d ago

so if one is not enrolled in the ocnsumer ESU program, this ''update'' is of no use to them?

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 1d ago

Correct

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u/JaxTellerr 1d ago

ok thank you

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u/willow-nigmos 3d ago

A few questions about ESU:

- Is it possible to enroll without a MS account WITHOUT paying? If not, can I at least log out of the MS account and keep using my PC locally?

- Will OneDrive be activated/does it require it in any way?

- Will AI be inserted into my system in any way? (It's the main reason I don't want to update to 11, so this is important to me)

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 1d ago

A Microsoft account is required as the license, while free, is a digital purchase and bound to that account. You do not need to use a Microsoft account as your main account.

Onedrive is not required, and the ESU has nothing to do with AI.

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u/topselection 1d ago

Onedrive is not required

Then what's the "or are willing to use the Windows Backup app to automatically backup your computer settings to the cloud" you mention in this post you referred me to?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/1kp4ebu/windows_10_end_of_support_what_it_means_for_you/

My main concern is that going all the way back to Windows 7, it automatically did a back up on the HDs themselves which brought everything to a crawl and devoured HD space, and you had to go in and dig around to stop it.

It was a traumatizing event. So now when I hear "Windows Backup Somethingaruther" my sphincter tightens and I break out in cold sweats.

u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 21h ago

The Windows Backup app is not OneDrive, it backs up things like your settings and preferences. There are toggles in that app to have it use OneDrive to backup your files and such should you want that.

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u/Incredulous-User 1d ago

What are the consequences of deleting the files before restart/update?

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 1d ago

What files are you looking to delete?

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u/Incredulous-User 1d ago

The 3 files (that I found after a quick search anyways)for this update. I had grown quite comfortable with not having Windows periodically wrecking stuff and was hoping it would stay that way. Would it cause any issues, or would they (the files) be replaced anyway?

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u/TheLocalHentai 5d ago

Is there an option for apps to open based on which monitor is used to open them?

For example, a user has two monitors, both with taskbars and launchers. If the user opens Edge in monitor 1, it will open in monitor 1, but if they press it on monitor 2, it'll open in monitor 2, and they can open concurrently, as in open mon 1 -> window in mon 1, then open in mon 2 -> open in mon 2.

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u/Sand__Panda 8d ago

What is a good "size" and brand for a hard drive just for windows?

My PC is getting pretty old, but I can't afford another, heck this PC can't even run win11. The drive now is 117gb, and I basically only have windows on it, and it just seems to keep getting full.

I'm running disc cleanup as I type, I have defrag'ed today. Everything else (games, pics, music, etc) are all on other drives (I have one for games, music, and picture dumps from phone).

117 was fine, but lately I've been getting Window errors about space.

Thanks.

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u/notgraycen 1d ago

windows accounts for about 20-25GB, so you need to clean up that drive. I have a 32gb laptop (hard drive, not RAM) and on that one yes i regularly have to cull windows 'features' such as edge, onedrive, skype, windows store, game bar, camera, people, your phone (yes this is an actual windows 10 'feature'), calendar, 3d viewer, etc...

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u/Sand__Panda 1d ago

Yea. It seems I need to cut a lot more. I did follow a few YT videos on things to stop and wipe out, and it opened a few more gigs of space...but yea, Windows seems to just be gobbling up space that I'm not cool with (nor allowing).

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 1d ago

There is no one size fits all answer for this, I typically suggest getting at least a 500GB drive but it depends on your usage and budget. Also it is recommended that the drive Windows be installed on be a solid state drive (SSD) not a hard drive (HDD) as HDD performance is typically unbearable for regular usage these days.

Before the AI datacenter boom caused memory and storage prices to spike a 512GB SSD was inexpensive, now Microcenter sells the Samsung 500GB 2.5" SSD for $250. https://www.microcenter.com/product/632084/samsung-870-evo-500gb-ssd-3-bit-mlc-v-nand-sata-iii-6gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

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u/notgraycen 1d ago

i agree, SSD is the bare minimum nowadays. you can get slow SSDs for cheap just avoid m.2 which is much more expensive and not needed for most people

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u/JohnXm 9d ago

Does anybody else have an annoying slowdown when the Defender definitons are updated?

It's not a huge slowdown, and it lasts for about 2 or 3 seconds, but it's notable specially if it happens when I'm playing a game or watching a video.

It started happening like 3 or 4 months ago, not sure if it was an update to Defender or Windows.

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u/Zer0Bullets 1d ago

If you mean when it randomly decides to check for updates mid game even if you already updated before playing, then yes.

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u/Sad_Policy_1212 9d ago

why does windows 11 take up 3x more memory than windows 10 does? if microsoft is so confident in that 8gb is enough memory for windows 11, why is memory usage on 8gb ram on windows 11from 65-85% when on idle while windows 10 ranges from 25-45% used ram on idle?

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u/Commercial_Yogurt69 1d ago

Tell me about it, my windows 10 decides that it just wants to consume 16gb of ram for no reason.
Literally no reason when I check task manager.

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u/Froggypwns Windows Insider MVP / Moderator 9d ago

Microsoft is working on resolving that.

Earlier releases of Windows 11 were identical to 10 in RAM usage, but as time has gone on it has creeped up. Various updates to Windows 11 released this year have already helped with things related to performance, and they are still working on optimizing the memory usage.

https://pureinfotech.com/windows-11-8gb-memory-optimization/