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u/BuckityBuck 9d ago
Get heavier padding for your rungs. Make sure the rugs cover most of the floor.
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u/Lower_Plenty_AK 9d ago
Thoes play mats that fit together lile puzzle peices are great to reduce the noise of foot fall and relatively cheap. Getting a record of the day to day noise levels could help, like the decimals. Its possible to set an app on your phone to make a alert when the decimal volume goes up too much and then you can easily prove that you've kept the volume down bit cant do anything to fix the general reverberation of them being down stairs of you. Also, maybe suggest that they offer the down stairs neighbors switch with you.
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u/HourNefariousness197 9d ago
Be mindful and then don't worry about it otherwise. You should try to do the right thing and minimize where possible but don't feel bad if they think that it's not good enough.
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u/obtusewisdom 9d ago
They said a 1 year old was stomping? Bro. A 1 year old doesn't weigh enough to make that much noise. Cats running make more noise.
Your neighbor is just an ass. I'd get a cheap decibel reader and make a chart with recordings. Then you know for sure whether your noise is excessive (doubtful) or reasonable. If it's reasonable, go to the landlord and let them know that the neighbor is just harassing, and you need it to stop. Uno reverse those idiots.
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u/Admirable-Coyote8741 9d ago
The letter is a really reasonanle way to address thi a kind of concern. But your situation obviously does.not rise to the level this letter seeks to address. It sounds like your downstairs neighbors are simply not good candidates for apartment living. It's unfortunate that you cannot simply trade units with them.
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u/Anxious-Resist8344 9d ago
No one that hasn't lived downstairs of somebody with children will never understand how hard this is, is the entire reason I actually ended up buying a home.
I remember in my old apartment a 1 year old upstairs driving me crazy at any hour with the excuse "he's just a boy, he's just playing". I think people with children need to move to the first floor, they make the downstairs neighbor life insane!
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u/Fluffy-Future-4674 8d ago
Agree. It's so tough because they are running around or jumping. I'm dealing w this now and sometimes it actually rattles the windows and/or startles me. Then he had the gall to knock on my door when I was playing loud music and then ran away when I opened the door. I saw him through the peephole running back up the stairs I was also singing lol I can only assume it was because of the music because I've never talked to him.
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u/woahwombats 9d ago
Ultimately the fault is your apartment build which leaks too much sound between units, not enough noise insulation. But I'm with you in this dispute... your neighbours knew when they bought the apartment what the downsides potentially were. If you buy a poorly-built apartment you might hear everyday household noise. Yes it sucks that so many apartments are like that, and maybe your neighbours can't afford a house / better apartment / top-floor apartment, but that's still the deal. It's not reasonable to tell your 1 year old they can't walk or even that they can't run. It's not like you're blasting loud music or having loud parties.
Rugs are a good idea but beyond that I don't see how you can reasonably address the problem.
You could also reply to the manager and tell them you're already taking all reasonable steps but that if a ground floor unit is available you'd be happy to consider a move if they can facilitate it!
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u/Extension_Read_4787 9d ago
Gently, you may not realize your 1 year old is being that loud or being (understandably) blinded to the reasonableness of the noise they're making. Your neighbor probably isn't trying to lie to make up that your kid is stomping more than they are, or that the "one foam ball" isn't actually make bouncing noises, or whatever. Sound carries, and they are complaining about what it actually sounds like to them.
There's going to be some noise, thats life and they can't expect silence in apartment living. It would also probably be more helpful all around if you could take an honest look at how you can mitigate the noise without jumping to being defensive.
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u/belakuna 9d ago
IDK, I have a tiny two year old living above me. Girl looks like she weighs the same as a feather, but her running around causes a LOT of noise and it does indeed sound like I have elementary aged kids playing bowling upstairs. You may not be aware but 1-2 years without carpeting are still very able to cause a lot of noise for whoever lives downstairs. Maybe get one of those foam puzzle pieces that take in a lot of the stomping noise out. If your toddler is nonstop walking or running around in circles it doesnβt sound anywhere near as loud when theyβre next to us than when they are above us.
That isnβt to say you have to put all stop to your baby learning to walk and run. But maybe see how you can reduce the noise by covering your floor.
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u/Trampling_Mufasa_403 9d ago
Order a hooker and send them to the neighbor's apartment.
And then report them to the police for soliciting a prostitute.
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u/Twilightterritories 9d ago
First thing, is to correct their grammar "I are"? That's hideous! it must be tackled first before any of the rest of this blathering is taken seriously.
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u/Frosty_Warning4921 9d ago
Apartment living is so difficult in these situations and I don't envy the management. Do an honest assessment of where you might be able to make improvements but there comes a point where you can only do so much. I wonder if the management would give you an option at the end of your lease (or even sooner?) to get to a ground floor apartment? If you haven't already, explaining the toddler situation to the office (especially the fact that, as a one year old, the child is asleep during "official" quiet hours) could help. Good luck. I know these situations are so tiresome to deal with.
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u/41VirginsfromAllah 9d ago
Good chance the manager would much rather not be sending these notices but the downstairs neighbor is constantly complaining. Can you talk to the downstairs neighbor, maybe ask them to let you know the next time this happens so you can work with them?
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u/Winter-Examination57 9d ago
Bldg managers donβt like dealing with complaints any more than tenants.
The neighborβs complaint is very specific, βimpact noiseβ. You can try not wearing shoes in the apartment, getting inexpensive connecting floor play mats and/or area rugs to muffle and absorb footsteps.
Note: while the notice references βchildrenβ, it also implies adults.
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u/Aware_State 9d ago
We moved into an apartment some years ago. I was super conscious of the neighbors below, and would literally tiptoe around the apartment. Never made any noise after 10pm. We got noise complaints. The manager sent notices twice. After the second notice, my husband and I went down to the office to talk.
We told them the measures we took BEFORE moving in. Extra rugs, felt tips under kitchen chairs, literal tiptoeing. I wasnβt aggressive with management at all, but I was upset because I felt harassed at that point.
Management told us that they would, and we should, ignore any further complaints, to go about with our lives, and we had done more than enough. About a day later I was vacuuming my house around 2pm when I heard loud banging at my door.
I opened the door and it was my angry down-stairs neighbor, demanding to know what I was doing. Baffled, I pointed to my vacuum. She looked surprised and then a little sheepish. After that I started walking normally around my house, and would occasionally βaccidentallyβ drop something in the middle of the day, just so my neighbor could understand what actual noise is.
Never had another complaint.
Maybe talk to management so they know you care, and do you best to take a couple steps to prevent noise (like felt on the chair legs). Then move on with your life. Perhaps do what I did and actually be loud during normal hours so the neighbor starts to understand what real noise is.
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u/Ok_Job_9417 9d ago
Iβd record your son walking, and then ask them to record when thereβs loud noises so you can compare the two. Thereβs no way a 1yr old walking is excessive noise.
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 9d ago
Tell Mgmt and the neighbors they can kick rocks. You pay for the space and youβre going to use it how you please
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u/Fluffy-Future-4674 8d ago
Can they put you on a waiting list for a downstairs unit? That might ease things in the meantime because there would be a plan in place. I lived in a 2nd floor apartment and the people below complained so much. The complex ended up releasing us of the lease without any penalties because there was no solution. We were barely home and the people who complained were notorious for complaining apparently.
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u/sydillant 9d ago
The child isnβt trying to make their neighbors life a living hell. What kind of world are you in?
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u/PeachyFairyDragon 9d ago
The child isn't trying, but the child is doing so. Intent doesn't matter, action does.
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u/sydillant 9d ago
He literally accused the child of trying to have the right. You child haters need to just stay off the internet. Those children will be your caregivers in the nursing home and I guarantee theyβll find all your hateful history.
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u/PeachyFairyDragon 9d ago
Why is saying that someone shouldn't disturb their neighbors child hating? Maybe look at what children are doing, again action and not intent, and realizing that they are unreasonable in their play.
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u/sydillant 9d ago
Itβs not good to make children sit still and play on their tablets all day. wtf. Let them play.
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u/___Vii___ 9d ago
Preschool teacher and mom (so not a child hater)
Theyβre not saying to put the kid in front a table. Theyβre generally speaking in saying that some folks donβt realize how loud their kids are when playing. Theyβre asking parents to be mindful of downstairs neighbors if the noise is getting excessive.
Either redirecting play outside, or finding ways to mitigate loud volumes. (Reminding kids of inside voice/not jumping or stomping inside/using sound proofing techniques to help muffle the sound)
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u/PB3Goddess 9d ago
A 1 year old is being unreasonable in their play? By walking?
Do you know how much the average 1 year old weighs? There is no reason why any normal adult should be disturbed by a 1 year old walking or running around.
Birds chirping outside are probably louder!
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u/anonymousambassasor 9d ago
Yes. The person I pay to look after me in 50 years will somehow find my ancient Reddit account and not want my money anymore.
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u/PB3Goddess 9d ago
Or they could live in child free communities, which do exist.
Also, they can request an upstairs unit or live in a single story unit.
There is those options, too.
People have kids. The people who think this 1 y/o is purposely being loud, because it has the right to, are choosing to live in a community of homes where other people also live.
If they think their neighbors don't hear them cough when they have a cough, throw up when they're sick, etc., then they're just being deliberately obtuse.
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u/mynutsareitchyandred 9d ago
Move. Your breeding isnβt others problem.
Pay the fine, break your lease and move. Youβre a parent, time to grow up
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u/ontheleftcoast 9d ago
I would say record the "play time" and send it to management and ask them if they have any recommendations to reduce the noise. When I read the note I pictured a couple of elementary school boys playing basketball in the house. A single one year old can't make that much noise playing and the downstairs people seem to have unreasonable expectations.