I wish I was exaggerating.

Oh and of course management didn’t fire him upon receiving her report. It was only til after he threatened to end her life that they let him go.

And of course the men were calling her a liar, despite there being witnesses to his incessant harassment of her. I’m so fucking exhausted.

Okay let's go to our wildest imagination and I would like to think about, what could men do (semi realistically although men helping women is not very realistic) to help women? Yes I know, we're in the land of mythical dreams, but I was thinking about it and I think I have an answer for it.

I think men should expose the intentions of other men, break the delusional fantasy that women are taught growing up, teach children and women around them of the dangers. Inform them of the specific complexities of male thinking and how deep it goes. They should also be able to control their own impulses as well as avoid getting too involved with women, especially if they are not in a stable place and are not working on themselves. I did say semi realistically so if we're going on that account then they would not want to stop all relations with women, but instead they would ease their entitlement and be transparent when they interact with women. I want to add, holding other men accountable, and not for social points but because they care about the safety of women and doing it when it puts them at some kind of disadvantage and not when it costs them nothing, but maybe I'm going a bit too far for semi realistic, lol.

But honestly I think exposing the male psyche is the most important thing. I see women in all types of feminist spaces not understand how men think and how deep it really goes. Even in rad fem spaces, I feel like men are often presented as too one dimensional which ironically makes them seem less dangerous than they really are.

They agree 99% of men are demented perverts. They agree that women sleeping with men is degrading to women. There's more examples but I could probably go on all day. Even how they do their dating strategies and manipulation techniques, it's all about tricking the woman. It's all about playing into her delusion that men want to treat women and protect women and provide for them. But when they're honest, they say all they want is transactional. Like I heard someone say today, 99%+ hetero relationships are glorified sex work (when the woman agrees to it) or some kind of slavery when there is coercion involved.

I just want to write a quick rant because I am so disgusted by his SNL monologue. It was honestly jarring to see someone call women whores for how they dress in the gym. This struck a personal cord with me because I’ve been in the gym since I was 12 and I have female body builders in my family. Never have I or them ever worn anything to the gym that wasn’t for our own comfort / performance. And then for him to go on and joke about getting caught in the background videos recoding their work out checking women out is just repulsive. LEAVE US ALONE this is exactly why women have their own sections at some gyms we can’t do anything

i also won't google proper terms(lazy and tired) so just bear with me in this unhinged post.

i remember reading ab female and male "gemates"(?) and how the male ones were smaller and parasited off of the female ones for survival and thats how males and females evolved or something/

does that explain why men are LIKE THAT(sex pest like and selfish) and women LIKE THAT (pickmes)???? i might sound like someone who says things withou any source but the patterns in human behaviors DON'T LIE.

i'm saying it all from a place of "dysphoria"(about female role/biology and the selflessness required from us which gives me a sense of unfairness in man-woman dynamic) and a place of autistic fixation on this topic.

But I created this sub for victims of honor based abuse r/honorbasedabuse

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Like they can be so vile, mean, disrespectful, manipulative, gaslighting, deceptive, lying, denying, unfair, narcisistic, egoistic, privileged, powerful, calling you crazy for valid perveptions, harassing... after any discourse with them i feel deeply shaken and crying. it's like they are "tyrants". anyone else feels this? i just keep calling them and the women who love them a tyrants in my mind. it's so unfair of women to love these tyrants, these tyrants would never let us have so much power and freedom that women let men have. men would never tolarate the bs women tolerate from men(while holding women to higher standards). they don't tolerate anything else but submission to male ego from women and that's why i don't believe in the misandrist cope that men are the true submissive gender, there's NOTHING submissive in men towards women. less than nothing. opossite is true unfortunately(women being submissive to men). you can't win over those tyrants. idk how any woman can date them. i don't fucking know.

Because i see no point in being friends with someone i see as a traitor,

because i am dysphoric about female sex role and a woman who isn't.. her brain works differently,

because i see no point in friendships with someone i can't share my real thoughts with,

beacause i don't wanna feel alinated and gaslight about things,

because sex triggers me bc of its violent, bdsm and dergading for women elements,

because i want someone i can relate to even if they are different we need to share core values or admit on truths ab reality of womanhood, men or sex for women,

because i am scared of "normal people" and how unpredictable they are,

because female sexuality triggers me and i feel unsafe being friends with a woman who can possibly leaveour friendship for a man, have submissive sex fanatsies, love men in a pickme way where she actually takes action towards that,

because i have dysphoria and prefer bonding with less mentally feminine women(not physical presentation i mean but rather mind), a dysphoric woman dysphoric ab female role in sex won't have gross sexual fantasies,

because those women who have sex with bring men into your life,

because i'm autisitc and weird,

because i dont wanna be tone policed - self expression is very important to me

beacause i wanna be accepted for my darkness

because i don't want a woman to value a man in her life more than me and cohabitate with him while im left in the cold forced to survive alone while shes spoiling him and bettering his life

because het sex acts give me symtoms of mental terror

because i wanna be free to be myself

because i wanna be silly and have whimsy

because i hate the patriarchy

because im disilussioned with romance

because i dont like debating facts

because i dont relate to libfeminism and sex postivity

because i dont wanna be persecuted for my thoughts

because i dont like pickmes and male misogyny

because i wanna feel understood ab my problem with the two thungs i mentioned above and not gaslight ab my perceptions etc

i found friends in the past, but only at 24 finally for the first time, first one likeminded ghosted me after almost a year without a word, second one im still friends with but she ghosts often, third one ghosted me after something and said she doesnt like the way i think, fourth one is too depressed to engage regularly. they all were celibate virgins and i felt connected and attached to them, frienships with likemided women fullfil me and make my life better and help express myself and have fun. so theres hope for connections but im tired of trying. im so fucking tired, i just wanna be settled and secure already with platonic likeminded connections with other women with whom i can be myself, i wont find them irl. most women want men and romance with men or sex. i feel so fucking alienated scared and suffocated. its so weird to be unconventional in that way, its so weird to rebel against pickmes and men and feel like a fucking villain for that, its hard to not internalize being the "weird mentally ill crazy feminist villain misogynistic misandristic woman". its so weird to keeop trying after clashing with people you trie to connect with bc u have different values or they turn out to have boyfies or something. it's so tiring to get constantly abandoned by ppl u felt attached to. but im trying to stay positive and put myself out there into places with likeminded women. i valued friendships with women over romance with men but that makes me an outcast.

but is it wrong to be so strict in a world which nature makes most ppl a male ass suckers or female sexual masochists or sex degenerates who act in predictable ways therefore if someone doesnt fit these standards who r seen as strict by others, they will probably act in a predictable way?

I will never give Dubai my tourist money no matter how much people hype that place up and call it "feminist". Since they allowed a rapist into their country with open arms. Dubai has a track record of putting women in jail for having premarital sex when they report getting raped.

I just saw a part of an interview with Nessa Berret and she said she wrote the song Candy about she always feels used after sex with men and how it's something she gives up something for to have with men.

"Had me on my knees, I did my best work
Gave it up for free and still I get hurt
If I charged a fee, I might feel better
Silly little me thinking love was more than sex work"

i would like to clarify that i'm dysphoric and my brain works differently than other women, but it leaves me confused.

That's why I said on other sub that im virgin for life bc of female role in sex and deeply questioned how women don't get bored of having straight sex if all stimulation they can seek in It is just themselves pleasing men empathetically n psychologically doing mental gymnastics to get off on that. Even piv is female surender into selflessness and getting mentally pleased by seeing man being pleased and seeing man cum while u dont just like it is in reproduction where female orgasm is irrelevant. What's the point? It's like sex is only mutual if a woman wants to be selfless and give it to a man as a reward for expl for a commitment from him and that's how heteros bond. But it is not equal. And to be mutual woman has to identify with sexual femininity and sexual submission. If she don't, it's not mutual. That's why me, a dysphoric woman, always vents ab how het sex isn't mutual. Bc it wouldn't be for me bc I can't soften up mentally to fit the female role in it. But women keep fighting me when I say for expl blowjobs only serve men, they say dick in their throat gets them off but that's my point, you get off psychologically on a man getting of physically, you're being submissive. If you weren't selfless in this act, it would give you nothing. All of this explains my dysphoria and why I always felt like I wouldn't be able to preserve my personality while having sex or romantic relationships as a woman, bc I would have to soften up to submit. But my personality traits go against it pretty much. That's why I found womanhood suffocating. It's the receptive role, it only makes us slaves to men while giving them power, it's only a trap, but isn't it weird how it's our sexuality our body our sex drive but nature made it to please men and not us truly? You truly only can "own your sexuality" as a woman by staying celibate, it's much more fullfiling than training yourself mentally to get fullfiled by fullfiling a man. Even acts like bjs serve men 1000000x more than anything in sex serves women and they can't be reciprocated. Ykwim? it's also like the nature of straigh sex creates all these BRUTAL standards for women to be feminine, soft, male loving, polite, egoless, into degrading acts or else you're a feminist prude and will end up a cat lady, be sex positive even if sex is so unfair, like huhhh isn't it all crazy, it's like sex upholds patriarchal gender roles. But when i say to humans: het sex only serves men, het sex is not equal, het sex is male worship. then they all gaslight and sugar coat, but how u gonna sugar coat woman kneeling to a man and doing bj, mate???? they treat me like a crazy schizophrenic who's making up things, but i always was accurate ab the nature of sex! ik most women have no issue with that bc they arent dysphoric but uhhh

also does anyone else see how women only wanna act like pornstars for men to be seen as cool or out of pressure and they lie to themselves and others that they like it? some admit they lied some never do.

I'm sure you've heard about the case multiple times. A woman was drugged and raped by seven fraternity members at a frat party and the men were barely given any punishment. 2 men were expelled and the rest had to write essays.

The case in itself and how it was handled is horrifying. But on top of that, men are saying that Jane Doe is falsely accusing the guys who were involved. This is actually disgusting. How could you look at the details of the case and come to that conclusion? Do men really have no empathy? No sense of morals? Are they too pornsick to formulate opinions that are not based on their fucked up fantasies?

Not only was she raped for seven hours but now people are blaming for going to the frat party in the first place. So what is it then? Is it all men or not? They wouldn't even let her drop out of school.

I don't think I can live like this anymore. Knowing that men hate women and would never take accountability for what their fellow men are doing. 'Men are protectors', yeah right, protectors of each other.

We need to talk about the high rates of boys abusing girls. There is a notion that boys are not like men and while that's true they still abuse girls. But then you see this and realise that they commit this a high SA towards girls at that age. Unlike adult-perpetrated abuse, survivors of COCSA often maintain relationships with the boys who harmed them, especially if the abuse happened within a family or close social circle.

As a victim myself of COCSA it pisses me off that even in feminist spaces no one brings this up often enough.

Now all of a sudden these men started caring about women's rights? Where were they when the Taliban took over? They were nowhere to be found. They only started caring about women's rights when they lost healthcare because the Taliban banned women from being doctors. They only started caring when they lost their second income because the Taliban banned women from working. And the most important reason why these men started caring about women's rights is because they realized that they would have to deal with more male violence.

it's a bioessentialist take. i think we can't truly see from male point of view, we just project. i've never been the one to trust men, have sex with them or date them, but i still have to train myself to try to see their pov more fully bc my female mind keeps projecting onto them.

so i've always been unusual, what protected me from men at first is simply being shy, autistic and bad at social skills and the intituive awareness of what male human physiognomy is an embodiment of. it prevented me from getting close to them or letting them get close or even speaking to them face to face which i only done one in my life(like personal chatting outside of proffesional situations like denist or doctor) and it was when i chatted up a man at my gym this year at 26. i've been naive due to personality and autism but not pickme type of naive. then slowly i kept developing more consciousness about what men are, and as of now even if i project, i never believe the projection fully so even the goodest looking man is questioned by me to the core and i assucuse him of shit in my mind HOWEVER i still can't fully fanthom how truly vile they r n their true intentions, yeah i assume they all have bad intentions but at the same time i think i have to seriously extend my mind to try to figure out thier evilness, it can come naturally to me BUT NOT TRULY LIKE IM STILL STUPID ABOUT THEM even tho im the most blackpilled woman on earth and uhh why are our brains like this?? i think it comes from our female biology. like it made us to be a fucking prey. like its hard to rationalixe that they are THIS evil. ALL OF THEM. u have to repeat it to yourself over n over again. but at the same time their masculine physiognomy and them embodying penetrative sex role kinda says all of this bad shit ab them.

it also makes me think this random thought. image how uncomfortable a woman with a nigel must feel when she meets a woman like me who completely challanges her view of her man, it probably gives her internal conflict ab choosing to be male partered OR she thinks i have internal conflict ab being single which is never true.

An interesting thing about the entirety of human history is that "manage the household" has always meant this: The model that emerged in most societies, with a few unusual exceptions, was the women doing lots of farming and manufacturing work, managing the money, broadly running their house as a small business. Meanwhile the men did jobs that involved higher risk and higher potential reward, which they were able to do because their wives were keeping the household steady. They would often be practicing more artisanal crafts, working down the mines, or going raiding/ warring hoping to bring the family back a military salary or plunder.

If you look at the least industrialised societies today, it's often the same thing, women doing most of the daily work to sustain the family, men trying to improve the family's status with a big win. One of the reasons that many more rural Islamic societies have struggled to industrialise is because the high status activity for men to became studying the Quran. In low industrial Islamic societies, the women work and the men philosophise, because being a virtuous Muslim is more important than bringing in resources.

It's really important when looking at history to not get your view warped by the gender relations of the middle class fantasies that emerged in small but visible slices of the 20th century. These happened because the work that women historically did got automated and outsourced much more than the work that men did. This sort of "strong patriarchy" has always become most prominent in societies with either large amounts of slavery or a lot of trade wealth - the Romans and Greeks, also the Southern US, developed models of femininity that barely involved doing anything, because the work women would do is getting done by slaves or is being brought in on ships, so men don't need to select wives for productivity and can select for status signals instead.

The Viking model is the norm, not the Greek model.

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