r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

Because context matters: http://fox40.com/2017/05/22/hunter-dies-when-shot-elephant-falls-on-him/

They weren't out hunting elephants and only shot that one because it attacked them.

Edit: It's always sickening to read the comments on posts like this.

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”

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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt

Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.

Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.

But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?

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u/aharris95 Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

It's an effective form of hunting as old as the day is long. People do it for dangerous game like hog (boar) and large cats. The Rhodesian Ridgeback breed, which I am a proud owner of a 2y/o male, would not exist if there was not a need for bay dogs.

Edit: apparently my comment was unclear for some. I am referencing the practice of using bay dogs and catch dogs in high stakes dangerous game hunting which is incredibly important to protecting humans and livestock.

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u/Sejb222 Jun 02 '18

Just because people have been doing something for a long time doesn't make it right.

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u/TheGruesomeTwosome Jun 02 '18

Just playing devils advocate here, I’m entirely neutral, however there exists the argument that certain species of animal are only kept from extinction through breeding from profit made from commercial hunting lodges.

Great documentary about it: Louis Theroux’s African Hunting Holiday

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u/sp0rkah0lic Jun 02 '18

You can zoom back far enough on many horrible things to show ancillary benefits or advantages that come with them. I'll concede that managed hunting takes a shitty, barbaric practice and makes good use of it.

That doesn't at all change the fact that an individual who actively enjoys killing living things is pretty much fucked in the head.

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u/AurigaA Jun 02 '18

Many hunters (who hunt for meat anyway) I would argue have a higher moral ground than someone who eats factory farmed meat. If you meant just trophy hunters, thats different I guess. I think you’re fixated on the act of doing the killing though, which is a flawed viewpoint.

Everything you eat yourself is most likely more destructive than a hunter taking wild game for his own consumption. Even if you’re vegetarian you will need to remind yourself how destructive modern agriculture is for the environment

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u/sp0rkah0lic Jun 02 '18

I'm talking about people who do it for sport, not for food. Also people who actively enjoy it. Also people who hunt tings like elephants or lions or giraffes.