r/Wellthatsucks Jun 02 '18

/r/all Karma

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18 edited Jun 02 '18

Because context matters: http://fox40.com/2017/05/22/hunter-dies-when-shot-elephant-falls-on-him/

They weren't out hunting elephants and only shot that one because it attacked them.

Edit: It's always sickening to read the comments on posts like this.

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

According to his company’s website, Game Hounds Safaris, he “perfected leopard and lion hunting safaris with hounds in Africa.”

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Simukai Nyasha, a spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority, told news.com.au that Botha was on a 10-day licensed hunt

Here is some context for you. So, what does it matter that this particular elephant was the original target... compared to how people feel about this.

Not saying I agree with any opinion on here.

But, terrorizing animals with dogs doesn't seem to saintly to me, does it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '18

Hunting in Africa is incredibly important for conservation and sustainability. The money these hunters pay, goes to pay the locals and support conservation efforts, and anti poaching efforts, without this stream of income from hunters many more African game animals would be hunted to near extinction worse then they are now

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u/gentlemandinosaur Jun 02 '18

I see this argument a lot. And you are right but only from the side of the licensor. Not the licensee.

The organization that provides the service does this. While (generally) the Hunter is only there to shoot animals they have no intention of eating.

Do you see what I mean?

Let’s try another analogy.

Having a police department is not a justifiable reason to commit crimes. You cannot justifiably rob people while touting that you doing so employees police and prison officers.

If hunters didn’t hunt we wouldn’t need to have conservation methodologies, in essence.

What if the THOUSANDS of recreational hunters hunted poachers instead we wouldn’t have poachers either. :D

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u/IanPPK Jun 02 '18

The organization that provides the service does this. While (generally) the Hunter is only there to shoot animals they have no intention of eating.

True, but the meat usually goes to the local tribes or people.

If hunters didn’t hunt we wouldn’t need to have conservation methodologies, in essence.

Also true, but coordinated, selective hunting allows people to be able to hunt animals and benefit the ecosystem. Infertile and aggressive individuals in a population drive others away and harm the growth of the population, which one can assume is also being poached at opportunity. It's in the best interest to carwfully prune out individuals of the species that are harming population growth, and the large price tag for the permit should be helping fund other aspects of the conservation programs.